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Definitely echoing the "best part about FFVII was Midgar!" feelings. Maybe, some day, we'll get a dystopic jRPG entirely set in a massive, world-destroying metropolis. Maybe.
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Resonance of Fate fits some of those requirements. The fact that it's also a really fun game doesn't hurt it much either. This is true, but I'm kind of turned off by the artstyle, the repetitive battle system, and some of the game's really, REALLY ridiculous moments. It's a good attempt, though.
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May 29, 2011 22:17
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Fedule posted:Nothing like people to ruin a good thing. Let's be fair here. There's enough bad stuff in Final Fantasy VII that it undermines itself, anyway. But we'll be seeing that sooner or later in the LP.
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May 30, 2011 04:58
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Rainbow. (This reply is © The White Dragon, 2011) Azure_Horizon fucked around with this message at 10:29 on May 30, 2011 |
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May 30, 2011 09:38
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Cuchulain posted:I played through this with RAINBOW windows intentionally. If you can't, you not as much of a man as I was when I was twelve.
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May 30, 2011 11:27
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Stuff like the Sector 7 Pillar & slums, the Train Graveyard, that 'Dark City' interim section... it's stuff like that that makes Midgar so iconic. And the rest of the game's environments so disappointing. They really could have made the whole game in Midgar. It's just so loving cool.
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May 31, 2011 00:04
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anakha posted:Wouldn't that have ended up with the environment being too 'linear', like the complaints about FFXIII were? Square of 1997 was a lot more free-form in gameplay design than they are now.
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May 31, 2011 00:42
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Captain Bravo posted:Plus, midgar is an enormous loving city. You've got the rich, well-guarded upper plate, the impoverished, thief-filled slums, a mountain-sized castle where the antagonists are, all kinds of poo poo. Hell, you see only, what, THREE of the seven sectors of the city? And even then, you don't even see all of each of those sectors, only parts.
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May 31, 2011 00:51
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Iggy Johnson posted:Don't the Materia clone themselves, albeit at their lowest level, when you reach Max level? Meaning you can basically Max and sell Any as many times as you need to? Yep. It becomes an infinite loop of $$.
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May 31, 2011 01:19
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George posted:Ah, the last FF game to actually move swiftly until FFXII. The menus and battles all flow so smoothly, and the environments all lean heavily on the music for atmosphere. I would argue FFIX very much relies on an environment-music connection. Moreso than VII, actually.
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May 31, 2011 19:21
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Everything I know about Rio de Janeiro has come from a book called Laughter Out of Place about domestic working women in Rio's shantytowns and how men are allowed to be sexually transgressive (including going homo) but women are not and are pure and innocent and all this stuff so please, indulge me more about stuff besides this. Also, Elentor, do you believe Brazil is a racial democracy? don't really answer this, god I hate anthropology classes sometimes
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Jun 1, 2011 01:01
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Elentor posted:I'm not sure why someone would say "nobody" when the majority of the people in this forums seems to love FFIX's soundtrack above others. I've seen people claim that IX's soundtrack is weak as hell. Of course, they're the same type of person who dislikes IX overall... and those are just bad people.
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Jun 1, 2011 09:35
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S-Alpha posted:Hah. Be glad I don't go into more detail on the series. Actually, I should really be the glad one there. Because I'm sure I'd get probated/banned just on principle with my rankings of the games. If you did, I'm sure RentCavalier would trek on in here to sperglord about FFXII. And then... and then it begins.
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Jun 1, 2011 10:29
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Elentor posted:What would you guys want/expect/wish from a modern-day RPG? Honestly, the Shadow Hearts series really nailed what I want from a modern-day RPG. Slick style, mindblowing music, perfect gameplay, incredible art, and it's all just plain fun. Aside from that, though, the SMT series has also shown how to do an RPG set in modern times, with its most notable example being SMT: N, which subverts 99% of all RPG tropes by having the world end in the first thirty minutes.
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Jun 1, 2011 20:41
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Screaming Idiot posted:Then you'll hate when we tell you that Edgar and Sabin are actually clones of Kefka and that Celes is actually a man. I hear Terra is a hermaphrodite rapist.
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Jun 1, 2011 21:21
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Lance Streetman posted:I wasn't aware that Cavia made FF6. It was their first title, actually. It's a common myth that Square would produce such a good game.
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Jun 1, 2011 21:26
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Elentor posted:It's not really a hassle as much as that ancient forest sidequest Guh. That whole place seems almost not even worth it half the time. Then I end up doing it anyway.
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Jun 2, 2011 00:56
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resurgam40 posted:I don't hate FFXII... FFXII is basically ye Olde Englishe (well, technically, Elizabethan English) Star Wars, and for that I just kind of fell asleep during all of its plot. It really didn't attempt to be anything aside from what it was, and it didn't help that the music sounded John Williams-y, too.
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Jun 2, 2011 06:23
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The White Dragon posted:See, I have lots of holes in my memory about FF12's plot and it comes out every time I discuss it, so lately I've tried to discuss it less and less. I'm actually enjoying FFXII more by watching it in an LP with people who know what they're doing instead of... actually playing the game. That's a testament to its quality, I suppose.
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Jun 2, 2011 06:48
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George posted:Only in French. The British pronunciation doesn't have a silent S, and the game uses British English. Deal with it. This makes sense if the majority of the voice actors were actually British, but they aren't. Look at a game like Drakengard II, where its voice actors were all British (and as such you have pronunciations like "leftenant" for lieutenant), but it's stupidly jarring to have actual British pronunciations of things like Marquissssss when there is an inconsistency in terms of the version of English all the VAs use. But even in Britain people say it both ways. And we also say "mar-kee" in American English, so it's not exclusively French, either. Azure_Horizon fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Jun 2, 2011 |
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Jun 2, 2011 08:49
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I '5'ed this thread purely for the ASOIAF references. Keep them coming.
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Jun 3, 2011 20:57
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AndwhatIseeisme posted:I would criticize you for this, but I'm a habitual yuffie user, and she seems to get quite a bit of hate too. So you can keep playing with your terrible character and I won't say a word about how awful your taste is, despite that character being absolutely worthless in battle and story. Cloud, Yuffie, and Cid is really the best combination in the game based on Limit Breaks alone. There's just no better team.
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Jun 4, 2011 23:33
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I wasn't talking about her final limit break. Her second limit break on the 3rd level, Doom of the Living is better than Barret's Limits. I mean, you could use Tifa, but her Roulette mechanic is kind of annoying. I'd rather have straight damage than a gimmick. Plus, Yuffie's final weapon doesn't have a weird loving gimmick that has to do with HP values like Tifa's does.
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Jun 4, 2011 23:42
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eating only apples posted:At least my character isn't entirely optional and pointless But she's also loving awesome.
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Jun 4, 2011 23:56
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Bocc Kob posted:Aren't Barret and the rest of AVALANCHE huge hypocrites? They're complaining about reactors harming the planet and plotting terrorist actions to disable them, but they're based in a part of Midgar where daily life wouldn't be possible without constant electricity. They should move out and live in the woods or something before they act all morally superior. Cloud is right to be a dick to them. However, the point they're trying to make is all this life-sucking electricity isn't necessary to actually live.
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Jun 5, 2011 22:59
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Bocc Kob posted:The number of lights, televisions, and computers in Tifa's bar alone argue otherwise. Well, no, I don't think any alternative energy sources were thought of just yet in FFVII's universe, but that there must be an alternative to killing the Earth just to power your TV.
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Jun 5, 2011 23:27
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Dauntasa posted:Mako power has only been around for like 50ish years at the start of FF7, if I remember correctly. Before that, they used coal. And as we can see from the wide shot of Midgar in the intro, it's clearly ruining every piece of land around it.
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Jun 5, 2011 23:55
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Bocc Kob posted:Their job of crippling a major metropolis with no evident plans to fix it or make amends to all the people's lives their ruining or endangering by shutting off the electricity. The poor who live below the plates will be affected the most. Is AVALANCHE going to help them evacuate the city? Have they taken any measures to keep the slums safe from nocturnal predators once the only light source is gone? Barret is clearly a big jerk who gets his kicks by picking on people weaker than him, even his fellow terrorists. Yet when it comes to actually placing the bombs, he insists his hired flunkie does it under the convenient excuse of not trusting him. Is it that or is he planning to frame Cloud as the real perpetrator while he cuts a deal with the authorities? A rogue ex-SOLDIER trying to take revenge on his former employees with a series of terror attacks would be a juicy story to sell to the media. Barret is going to be revealed as the game's true villain! Sometimes sacrifices are necessary to ensure the prosperity of future generations... at least when it comes to protecting the environment. I wouldn't use this line of reasoning anywhere else.
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Jun 6, 2011 04:43
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Scalding Coffee posted:It is them who are forcing us to kill indiscriminately. If you've seen how controlled and regimented Midgar is by now, I'd say they really have no other choice to make a difference. Sometimes, anarchy is the best option.
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Jun 6, 2011 07:24
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Daniel Thorburn posted:How awesome would it be if instead of being Terrorists the plot was that AVALANCHE was a political party campaigning against Mako? Barret is the candidate for mayor and you have to hand leaflets to the citizens of Midgar and collect small donations. When you go to the Shnira tower it's to hand in the nomination papers. That sounds like a game for the Tea Party.
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Jun 6, 2011 21:05
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Third Murderer posted:Corporations growing so powerful they replace the government completely is pretty common in cyberpunk dystopia stuff. Hell, it's happening nowadays, just not on the same scale.
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Jun 6, 2011 22:04
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Scalding Coffee posted:I would get pissed when playing FFVI and my guys would sometimes block spells I cast on them because their M.Block is so high. I think you only see Sectors 5, 6, and 7 in the game. But even then, you can bet that's only a portion of each of those Sectors.
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Jun 8, 2011 05:52
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Dauntasa posted:You see 4, too, at one point. And reactor 1 was in sector one, obviously. In terms of actual exploration, though, you only really see three sectors. Any others are kind of perusals, at best.
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Jun 8, 2011 06:22
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The White Dragon posted:No, but we'd be making GBS threads ourselves with shame, I'd bet, over Aeris' faux-pre-Modern-English-British voice acting and Cloud's over-depressed sighs. "That ho doth bitch too much!" magick magic with a loving k URGH WHY DO I HATE YOU SO MUCH EXTRA UNNECESSARY LETTER
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Jun 9, 2011 00:06
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KataraniSword posted:...I never connected to you on a level so deep, Azure. I either inspire deep loathing or an unquestionably deep affection from people. Now if you'll excuse me I need to go reassign my Technicks (... techNIQUES. TECHNIQUES. TECHNIQUESTECHNIQUESTECHNIQUES!) while enjoying the aesthetick beauty of atmospherick musick.
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Jun 9, 2011 01:22
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ddegenha posted:Funny related story, the other week I was down in Oregon and stopped at a place promising "Chinese Quisine." I wasn't sure what exactly Quisine was, but taking a page from from the book of Quina I tried it and found it to be delicious. Whoa! Where were you in Oregon, dude?! I live in Eugene 
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Jun 9, 2011 05:09
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Awesome. Grant's Pass is a nice little town. Though I dunno if you actually passed through here unless you were going north to Albany/Corvallis, Salem, or Portland. Did you head up that way? Grant's Pass is a good like 70-100 miles south of Eugene.
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Jun 9, 2011 05:58
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Elentor posted:You know what is better than a double update? MORE man love?
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Jun 9, 2011 23:13
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El Belmondo posted:We all know that this thread is going to finish before that FF13 thread. Which is kind of funny because FFXIII is arguably easier than FFVII, even. But yeah there is no possible universe where FFIX is worse than FF8, seriously. That's like dividing by zero.
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Bocc Kob posted:What is there to like about 9? It had awful characters, a boring and at times ridiculous plot, the worst minigame ever, and forgettable music. I tried playing it a second time a few years ago to see if I'd like it more than the first time and didn't even make it past disc 1. Having Trance build like a limit break gauge, then being forced to use it in the battle it fills in or losing it completely was a crappy idea. Dude, seriously, let's take it outside. I want to fight you, mano-a-mano. I'll even do a COME AT ME BRO stance just before we brawl.
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