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Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

HE'S SHOOTING LIGHTNING AND I'M NAKED!


Bisse posted:

Man, Naruto is basically the most overpowered shounen main char ever. This is ridonkulous. In a bad way.

How so. When every one else he's gonna have to fight seriously has just as broken if not more broken abilities.

Madara: both a sharingan and the rinnegan. Also the whole nigh impossible to hit thing

Sasuke: eternal mangekyou, and fast as poo poo

Kabuto: orochimaru on steroids(literally and figuratively) army of clones at his beck and call

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Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE WILL NOTICE HULK

I thought the zombies could be defeated by your choice of total destruction or sealing them.

Otakufag
Aug 23, 2004


Dexo posted:

Kabuto: orochimaru on steroids(literally and figuratively) army of clones at his beck and call
Don't forget Madara said he was such a mad man when Kabuto showed him "that" coffin. Which we all know contains the sage of six paths

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


hog wizard posted:

I don't understand dust element. The other elemental jutsus make sense but dust doesn't.

Wind is basically cutting things. Earth is moving rocks around. I figure dust element involves vibrating tiny particles of earth (i.e., dust). So, it is midway between a vibration attack and sandblasting.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~


Never again will I look down on a dustbuster. Next time I get the chance to use one I'm going to be pretending it's firing off mini-nukes, playing quick draw with the dog and generally making myself look like a loving retard

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

HE'S SHOOTING LIGHTNING AND I'M NAKED!


I just get a kick out of how something that sounds as innocuous as Dust actually causes it's users to shoot loving molecule destroying Kamehameha's at each other

PaleIrishGuy
Feb 5, 2004
Pale as paper

Otakufag posted:

Don't forget Madara said he was such a mad man when Kabuto showed him "that" coffin. Which we all know contains the sage of six paths

Ya know, I was just thinking about that while reading this chapter, and I now suspect that "that" coffin is Kushina. My reason for thinking this is because she would pretty much be the perfect weapon to use to capture Naruto. If that's her, then, not only would he have to fight his mom's moving corpse, his new Kyuubi mode might also prove to be a weakness since she has those Uzumaki Kyuubi sealing/restraining techniques. And it was never stated what they did with her body after she died, I believe, so Kabutomaru might have gotten to her corpse too.

Rauri
Jan 13, 2008
"Back off man, we're Scientists."

PaleIrishGuy posted:

Ya know, I was just thinking about that while reading this chapter, and I now suspect that "that" coffin is Kushina. My reason for thinking this is because she would pretty much be the perfect weapon to use to capture Naruto. If that's her, then, not only would he have to fight his mom's moving corpse, his new Kyuubi mode might also prove to be a weakness since she has those Uzumaki Kyuubi sealing/restraining techniques. And it was never stated what they did with her body after she died, I believe, so Kabutomaru might have gotten to her corpse too.
ANBU continues to fail to do anything useful, since isn't destroying the bodies of people with bloodline abilities they don't want anyone else to get their hands on one of ANBU's main jobs?

Chapter was pretty decent otherwise, hoping Gaara doesn't get robbed of his upcoming fight somehow.

Longhouse
Nov 8, 2010

Chill out, dog

Dexo posted:

I just get a kick out of how something that sounds as innocuous as Dust actually causes it's users to shoot loving molecule destroying Kamehameha's at each other
Also, Ōnoki's voice actor in the anime sounds loving merciless

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007


Otakufag posted:

Don't forget Madara said he was such a mad man when Kabuto showed him "that" coffin. Which we all know contains the sage of six paths

I still think it's Madara's real body. Wonder what would happen if Kabuto used his technique on the body of someone who's not actually dead...

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


They just explained how Madara probably is in his own body.

uG
Apr 23, 2003

Whoa, where am I?


Serious Frolicking posted:

Wind is basically cutting things. Earth is moving rocks around. I figure dust element involves vibrating tiny particles of earth (i.e., dust). So, it is midway between a vibration attack and sandblasting.
Dust release uses a 3rd element, fire.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007


Serious Frolicking posted:

They just explained how Madara probably is in his own body.

Uh, what? I don't remember this happening.

BrooklynNinja
Feb 3, 2003

I don't know who he is, but he killed Bobby

Cbouncerrun posted:

Uh, what? I don't remember this happening.

They literally just explained it the previous chapter: http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/57765310/5

He uses the First's cells to extend his life.

Hard NOP Life
Jan 22, 2004

Your clothes.

Give them to me. Now!


Cbouncerrun posted:

Uh, what? I don't remember this happening.

They said he was using the Zetsu clones to stay alive forever.

edit: Well they didn't say he used Zetsu, but given the powers he's used to keep Sasuke up during the Kage fight I think it's releated.

Hard NOP Life fucked around with this message at Jul 7, 2011 around 00:10

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007


Hmm, so I guess all those hints that he was using Obito's body were just red herrings.

Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

Rauri posted:

ANBU continues to fail to do anything useful, since isn't destroying the bodies of people with bloodline abilities they don't want anyone else to get their hands on one of ANBU's main jobs?

Chapter was pretty decent otherwise, hoping Gaara doesn't get robbed of his upcoming fight somehow.


Well, all Kabuto needs is some blood or some hair or whatever and ANBU is going to be hard pressed to get rid of all of that.

Love the time skip joke. I can't help but feel it's something the translators added though.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007


I wouldn't question the logic of Kabuto getting the remains of some of the ninjas he's revived, it doesn't make much sense. For example, any of the Konoha ninjas. The fact he had their remains pretty much implies he snuck into Konoha just to dig up some corpses. There's also Deidara who had literally no remains because he nuked himself.

RatHat fucked around with this message at Jul 7, 2011 around 01:17

Brandfarlig
Nov 5, 2009

These colours don't run.



Hypocrisy posted:

Well, all Kabuto needs is some blood or some hair or whatever and ANBU is going to be hard pressed to get rid of all of that.


They shouldn't be. Their job is to destroy bodies and their village is hosed if they mess up.

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


People sometimes have hair, blood and other body parts before they die. It isn't that strange that there would be a bunch of bits and pieces floating around. Big O had that huge information network run by Kabuto and years with which to find said pieces. Plus, you know, dramatic license. Kabuto found all those body parts because otherwise there would be no army of undead ninja luminaries.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE WILL NOTICE HULK

Serious Frolicking posted:

People sometimes have hair, blood and other body parts before they die. It isn't that strange that there would be a bunch of bits and pieces floating around. Big O had that huge information network run by Kabuto and years with which to find said pieces. Plus, you know, dramatic license. Kabuto found all those body parts because otherwise there would be no army of undead ninja luminaries.

There's a few ninjas in the zombie army from before Orochimaru went science mad, and a few more from soon enough after that finding extraneous blood or hair samples is super highly unlikely.

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


Gyges posted:

There's a few ninjas in the zombie army from before Orochimaru went science mad, and a few more from soon enough after that finding extraneous blood or hair samples is super highly unlikely.

That would only be true if they weren't running around fighting all over the place before dying. If ANBU exists to dispose of bodies, that means bodies are a valuable resource and that other groups must exist to collect them. Everyone that fought any of these dead guys probably tried to keep a few bits and pieces in case they might be useful some day. If the 1st's body can be fiddled with to grant immortality, who knows what any given powerful dude's body can do?

Of course, this is putting way more thought into the subject than Kishi ever did.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

The Running King


For Edo Tensei to work, all Kabuto needs is one cell to get the needed DNA. That gives him the key to pull their soul back. Kabuto was in Konoha for a long time, and being Mr. Spy, it was probably easy for him and Orochimaru to get whatever DNA they needed. And it's not like the needed a body to get it. "This is Nidaime Mizukage's legendary sword on display", all he has to do is break in and swab it to grab some cell samples.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE WILL NOTICE HULK

Teek posted:

For Edo Tensei to work, all Kabuto needs is one cell to get the needed DNA. That gives him the key to pull their soul back. Kabuto was in Konoha for a long time, and being Mr. Spy, it was probably easy for him and Orochimaru to get whatever DNA they needed. And it's not like the needed a body to get it. "This is Nidaime Mizukage's legendary sword on display", all he has to do is break in and swab it to grab some cell samples.

I wonder how many janitors and random cold sufferers by got zombified in horrible Edo Tensei accidents.

Bisse
Jun 26, 2005
Terry Pratchett

Dexo posted:

How so. When every one else he's gonna have to fight seriously has just as broken if not more broken abilities.

Madara: both a sharingan and the rinnegan. Also the whole nigh impossible to hit thing

Sasuke: eternal mangekyou, and fast as poo poo

Kabuto: orochimaru on steroids(literally and figuratively) army of clones at his beck and call
Well when Luffy gains some new ability it's like a huge loving thing, Ichigo has to train in time chambers and even then he just gets new outfits and a new power level.

Naruto? Yellow flash, instant teleportation, yeah sure! Sealing techniques, think I didn't know that? Unfallable beacon of truth to detect all evil ever, pssh, don't even try me. Summon techniques, yep. Sharingans, sure let me pick a new type out of my rear end there's a million where that came from. Powerups? Are you loving kidding? I can do sage mode and/or SSJ chakra anytime anywhere, and if you come even close to beating me turn into a nine tailed beast of ultimate doom. Also my parents are jesus and virgin mary and level me up whenever the hell they feel like. And finally I can do all of these things at a thousand places as once. And finally I got trained by a dozen different world class ninjas just in case you feel like doing some martial arts close combat.

Seriously, besides eyehaxxing all teh internets at once, tell me one thing this guy can't do?

Bisse fucked around with this message at Jul 7, 2011 around 06:05

Crunkjuice
Apr 4, 2007

That could've gotten in my eye!
*launches teargas at unarmed protestors*

I THINK OAKLAND PD'S USE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE WAS JUSTIFIED!


Gyges posted:

I wonder how many janitors and random cold sufferers by got zombified in horrible Edo Tensei accidents.

Considering it was probably ANBU's job to protect poo poo like this, i'm guessing its a whole hell of a lot. Their incompetence on panel is only rivaled by their female ninja counterparts.

I
Aug 4, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Crunkjuice posted:

Their incompetence on panel is only rivaled by their female ninja counterparts.*
*except for Temari.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

Setz sama posted a new 4koma! I've gotta tell everyone RIGHT NOW!

Bisse posted:


Seriously, besides eyehaxxing all teh internets at once, tell me one thing this guy can't do?


Acknowledge, let alone reciprocate, Hinata's public love confession to him.

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


It isn't as though anyone ever taught him how to relate to girls. His primary examples are Sakura and Jiraiya, neither of whom have any idea of what a healthy relationship is. Going from his emotionally abusive non-relationship with Sakura straight into a casual acquaintance professing her undying devotion (in the middle of a battle, in the ruins of Konoha) must have thrown Naruto for a loop.

Just kidding, it hasn't been resolved because Naruto was never going to end up with the secondary love interest.

Schubalts
Nov 25, 2007

A beast to kill a beast...


I posted:

*except for Temari.

*and Tsunade and Chiyo and every female from Cloud

Rekkit
Nov 5, 2006



Hypocrisy posted:

Love the time skip joke. I can't help but feel it's something the translators added though.

Curious about this too, can anyone with special Japanese powers confirm with the raw version?

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

The Running King


Bisse posted:

Naruto? Yellow flash, instant teleportation, yeah sure! Sealing techniques [...]

Seriously, besides eyehaxxing all teh internets at once, tell me one thing this guy can't do?

When has Naruto used sealing techniques? One of the Sand guys sealed the Magnetic user guy this past chapter. There's apparently a whole clan of those guys based on what was said when the war started.

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

Mother, mother ocean, I have heard your call.



If anyone is curious, the latest anime episode (219 I think) is a really funny and well animated filler episode involving Kakashi and Guy racing through konoha as part of their rivalry.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010


Teek posted:

When has Naruto used sealing techniques?


He used them when unlocking Kyuubi. He learned them from Jiraiya not to mention it's apparently in his bloodline from his mother.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

The Running King


I know it's an Uzumaki thing, but I don't remember seeing Naruto ever physically performing a sealing jutsu. I suppose the internal Kyuubi seal he used counts though.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010


I look forward to the Anime equivalent of Elminster vs Raistlin battle of doom these upcoming chapters.

Zexerous
May 5, 2006

No Alibi. No Justice. No Dream. No Club.


Raenir Salazar posted:

I look forward to the Anime equivalent of Elminster vs Raistlin battle of doom these upcoming chapters.

What are you talking about? Raistlin would clearly win that battle.

Bisse
Jun 26, 2005
Terry Pratchett

Teek posted:

When has Naruto used sealing techniques?
Ninetails?

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


Zexerous posted:

What are you talking about? Raistlin would clearly win that battle.

No, Goku would.

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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


While I knew that Madara was rocking both a sharingan and rinnegan now, I didn't realize until I saw that color page at the end of this page that the zombie jinchurki also had both. I thought they just had the rinnegan. They're even more overpowered than I thought.

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