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LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Saint Sputnik posted:

That's some pretty low poo poo, I mean drat.


See boys and girls rich people can buy hard-rightists and they can buy insanely hard-rightists, what a diverse bunch!

e: seriously just the way the bolded part is worded. Ughhh

Ah yes, George Soros, a man who has discarded the capitalist system and all of it's means to support centrist Democrats who prevent anyone actually leftist from entering.

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LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


trandorian posted:

Let me introduce you to this thing called "Conservative Media In America Ever Since A Black Dude Became President".

That's an exaggeration if I've ever heard of one. The most right-winged media would only get even close to those Venezuelan stations if Obama was actually remotely leftist.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


trandorian posted:

And your point is? It was wrong when America shut down anarchist and communist media outlets throughout the past century or more for advocating revolution, it was wrong when Venezuela did it.

No, it would be more like a coup occurs, the President of the Chamber of Commerce is sworn in, and they dissolve the Supreme Court and Congress. During this, Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN support the coup, have been egging on supporters before the coup for a few weeks and edit footage to make anti-coup supporters are ambushing peaceful protesters instead of general brawl.

I can understand why Chavez and supporters would be a bit upset, then again Chavez tried a coup when he was in the military and, in my opinion, has been squandering his options with pointless international posturing.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


OatBoy posted:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/o...re.html?_r=1&hp


Looks like the American model of capitalism is falling apart. But wouldn't it be really cool if it weren't?

Things are terrible now but the future's so bright I gotta wear shades? Is this the (even more-so) free-market capitalistic version of Transhumanism?

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Bruce Leroy posted:

Is the little guy at the bottom of each comic Kelly's personal caricature?

Yes, Kelly is a fictional character mocking how a lot of cartoonists add someone in the bottom for "reinforced_talking_point". The Kelly Cartoons are drawn by Ward Sutton, and they're the most controversial part of the Onion as people actually think they're real or serious, even if they're in the print editions of The Onion.

Here, have a laugh and cry when you realize that these are actual opinions to some or have been made into cartoons.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Armyman25 posted:

I wish that every time Zucotti is talked about they would show a picture of it.

This is what comes to most people's minds when you say "park"


not this:


I mean, it's a paved in area with some trees. It's not like you could have a picnic there.

The Philadelphia one is a bit similar, but at least they don't call Dilworth Plaza a park.

Here are the pictures, the green highlighted area is where the occupiers, last time I checked, are located.



And here's the place without highlights so you can get a clearer idea.



Also as you can see, Philadelphia City hall is massive.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Augster posted:

This letter to the editor was in my newspaper yesterday

Well ignoring that Veterans Day is for all who served in the armed forces and not just those who died (that's for memorial day), women died in service to the US during the Vietnam War most noticeably with their own memorial, during plenty of other wars, and they're serving in combat situations in Iraq and Afghanistan while being raped by their own comrades.

In other words:

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


TetsuoTW posted:

They can't say "uppity."

Not in public at least. Plus she's married to a terrible president and has plenty of white knights against any criticism, legitimate or not.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Bruce Leroy posted:

I haven't read all of it, but doesn't Smith's "The Theory of Moral Sentiments" emphasize pretty much the opposite ideas of the type of capitalism championed by right-wingers (e.g. fetishizing the rich and hating on the poor) and their interpretations of "Wealth of Nations?"

Basically, there's many references in various works of Smith to a good safety net, an educated populace being better than a non-educated, and the dismissal of investments just to get money, not to invest in business. I've learned that trying to bring this up just gets you dismissed because of other misgivings about Friedman and The Chicago School. I still can't believe people defend Pinochet.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Pope Guilty posted:

Smith was actually a fairly impressive moral philosopher in addition to expounding economic sentiments that wouldn't put him out of place among many social democrats. Pity he's remembered and feted as a champion of amoral ruthlessness.

It's also a pity that he isn't remembered for living with his mother most of his life, like many of the libertards who worship him.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Bruce Leroy posted:

I agree that it is completely retarded of her to refer to college sexual assault response agencies as similar to both Soviet communism and the Spanish Inquisition, but she is still making a valid point about the rush to judgment in the media in sexual assault cases, like the Duke lacrosse scandal.

The American media needs to stop publishing the names of criminal suspects of any accused crime, as simply mentioning that someone is accused is frequently enough to irreparably damage their life. It really feeds into the notion that someone must be guilty if they are simply accused and/or the police believe they committed a crime.

I'd be fine if they published names and details after the person is convicted, but anything before then is prejudicial and completely unnecessary.

This is the main problem with legal cases and the media in general. If you lived in the US you understand this, case in point the Casey Anthony and every other media circus that gets people more angry than they should as opposed to a systematic destruction of safety nets and any meaningful reform.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Equester posted:

I love Conservapedia's project. It's so insane. Also how conservative do you have to be, to find the bible to liberal?

The most hilarious thing about the Conservative Bible Project is that the vast majority of the Christians who would follow Conservapedia believe that only the King James Version is the only valid translation and would view this as blaspheme.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

My dad just sent me this WSJ op-ed:


So much to respond to. Tempted to just reply with "Ugh."

I would personally suggest goatse but to be serious link to It's Inequality, Stupid and how Citizens United is making America literally the worst nation ever.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Bruce Leroy posted:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bonus...-050100338.html


I just want to spam this article every loving time I hear some conservative or libertarian complaining about welfare queens, socialists, Occupy, tax rates, etc.

That's the kind of poo poo I would expect to hear in Sweden or Norway with their massive taxes from some rich idiot in his well to do social safety nets, not a country where 1 in 4 children face food insecurity and health care is an eroding privilege.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Bruce Leroy posted:

My favorite part is the "mayhem and bedlam" stuff.

Anyone who has paid even just a modicum of attention to the Occupy movement knows that it is not only an overwhelmingly peaceful movement, but that the Occupy protestors are victims of violence and crime, not the perpetrators.

Just look at all the cases of police and security committing violent assault against Occupy protestors using pepper spray, rubber bullets, tasers, gas and flashbang canisters, and other police weaponry. Can you imagine the total loving shitstorm that would come from these critics of the Occupy movement if the Tea Party received just 1% of the violence from police that the Occupy protestors have received?

They pretend to live in the Just-World, where any violence perpetrated by the police is justified in response to some unspecified thing the protestors must have done.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


colonelslime posted:

I really love how these people always assume "my people" and "Chosen One' somehow refers to America. Not even the whole planet/species generically, but specifically America and its people. Like Abraham was specifically writing for a country that would exist 3500 years down the line.

That's one the few reason I like Jack Chick's crazy poo poo, in most of them he points out that the US is never mentioned in scripture and will most likely be destroyed early on during the tribulation. Then again I prefer crazy premillennialists to postmillennialists.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


colonelslime posted:

It's only cognitive dissonance if you accept religions other than Christianity as valid.

Must say, I do like the idea that Obama has personally caused sugarcane prices to skyrocket over the past 3 years. Have these people never heard of inflation? Do they assume he's just going around burning the cane fields to make kids healthy or something?

For some reason, people act like the government is actively covering up inflation. Every time a relative of mine comments on prices going up she says "But there's no inflation, right *wink*".

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


If God likes banning gay marriage and invading Muslim counties why did the stock market crash hard in 07/08?

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


It should also be noted that the "pimp" video was heavily edited to the point that it cannot be ascertained on what outfit that sniveling rat faced git was wearing during the recording of ACORN employees and after investigation by several independent sources is was proven that at no point did ACORN break any laws, contrary to the position of the aforementioned git who still lives with his parents while basking in the selfmade glow.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Orange Devil posted:

Why do I get that dreadful feeling that the author thinks that Dirty Harry is a hero or morally good character?

It's Ted Nugent, in his opinion the guy shooting people is always the good guy. People seem to ignore the very ending of Dirty Harry a lot.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Pope Guilty posted:

I hate moderates; a few of them have genuine, thought-out beliefs which put them in the middle of the road, but most of the self-proclaimed "moderates" I've talked to look at two sides and choose the position they perceive to be "between" them because they think that makes them smarter and more reasonable than everybody else, when really what it makes them is shallow and smug about it.

Well when it's Far-Right vs the Right, the middle ground is pretty lovely. Then again I had a relative tell me that thanks to Obama's new bureaucracy it's impossible to fire hired employees which is why all new hires are legally temps, this was ignoring the fact that I was laid off from UPS as a teamster in both 2009 and 2010.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


To be quite honest, I'm amazed that there hasn't been a schism considering how radically different much of the Catholic population in the Americas is when compared to the overwhelmingly European higher ups in the Vatican.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Branis posted:

I really wish we could get a solid definition of personal freedom. What freedoms do I have that the average european does not? The freedom to be unable to afford my ultra high deductible health insurance, so despite being insured I still can't afford the the average doctor visit. Is it just guns? is that it? I'd give up all the guns for a more socialist country in a heartbeat.

The best part is that there's still plenty of countries that let you own firearms, albiet with more restrictions than the US, that have evil socialist healthcare.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


I personally can't wait for PSY Too!

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


I worked at UPS for 3 and half years at a location in the Philadelphia area. It was a closed shop for all below-management employees so everyone was in the teamsters. I worked with people who loathed the teamsters and how they let people who were "loving leeches" stay while they worked their rear end off. One critic was a man who without the health benefits that the teamsters negotiated for would have had probably $1 million in medical bills because of a emergency his wife had. He also took advantage of it constantly as he had a guaranteed yearly raise and had been there long enough that seniority protected him.

In conclusion, people hate unions they're in because they're ignorant.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Glitterbomber posted:

So if I read right, Hitchens the brother is an arrogant, windbag, racist, Christian?

Man holidays must have been fun, this is some zen poo poo right here.

Apparently he said in a debate with his brother that opposed the War in Iraq after some consideration in the beginning, so he's not the most worthless piece of poo poo like his late brother.

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LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Van Kraken posted:

This one, I think.



Just to make people's lives worse, there's some racist parody of that which basically ends with "I guess blacks really are subhuman". Never underestimate hate.

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