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babies havin rabies
Feb 24, 2006

Bruce Leroy posted:

Do ANY conservatives know what words like "collectivism," "Marxism," "communism," or "socialism" mean or is it simply just a grab-bag of general pejoratives they toss into their speech and writing for effect?


I had a conservative argue with me that school lunch programs are communism and if we continued them then the government would "clench their fist on our children". So, no, they don't. When applied to Obama it is just a placeholder for a racial slur.

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babies havin rabies
Feb 24, 2006

Bruce Leroy posted:

It really just seems like they didn't give two shits about these issues until a black Democrat became president. Suddenly all these people went from complacent morons to firebrand deficit and small government hawks right around the time a black democrat got into office.

Ask one what they think about Detroit sometime.

babies havin rabies
Feb 24, 2006

thefncrow posted:

The line I've typically heard is something like "We didn't like that either. Don't you remember how unpopular Bush was?" and then some nonsense about Obama's election being the last straw which made them become more vocal.

Which, of course, is basically total horseshit and a bad attempt at revisionist history, but I imagine that's the response you'd get.

It's more or less true because Obama is a continuation of Bush's corporate-sponsored presidency. Bush was disliked, Obama is a continuation of disliked policy (also, he's black).

babies havin rabies
Feb 24, 2006

thefncrow posted:

It's strange because they've constructed this faux rationale that would be dead on the money except that what they've missed is a fundamental thing that makes the whole thing hilariously off the mark.

The only problem with them protesting Obama is that they only do it to put a Republican in his place. It won't accomplish anything. The Tea Party (and, in fact, the two party system in the US) is simply a corporate-sponsored misdirection which creates a spillover outlet for rage. It is, simply put, an investment in being able to continue business. It is to class consciousness what a pacifier is to an infant.

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