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Sex_Ferguson
Oct 22, 2010

Show me a good time, Jack!

Protokoll posted:

She got a few buffs and she's probably slightly better than average.

• Close Medium Punch has less recovery.
• Crouching Medium Punch and Kick can combo from a hit confirm.
• Far Standing Medium Punch can be Canceled, just like Ryu.
• Vulnerable hitbox on far Standing Medium Kick reduced, making it harder to hit her out of it.
• Air Arcing Hurricane Kick can get more airborne hits.
• Recovery time on her Fireball reduced.
• Other various adjustments on making hitboxes bigger, damage, and recovery done to make her stronger.

Awesome, I can't wait to get this later.

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40 OZ
May 16, 2003


Who's got the nasty genei-jin combos? Give em up.

systran
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

I don't think it really matters what combo you do with Genei-jin up, the most important thing is that you set up a good mixup for the end of it. Only the first four or so hits are going to do any significant damage. I would even argue that you should sometimes cut it slightly short so that they have to be actively paying attention during the whole thing otherwise you'll catch them off guard and get a free reset. It's not like the extra three 10% hits are worth it.

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge

E.Ryu is actually a lot of fun. Oni is just weird as all hell, and fighting him kind of confuses me. Does that slash move always cross up or what.

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!


Kind of disappointed you can't cr.mk, ex fireball FADC Ultra 1 with either E.Ryu (you can with Ultra 2) or Oni.

Also, Oni Color 10 with Taunt 9: Maximum DBZ'ness

KingShiro fucked around with this message at Jun 7, 2011 around 15:40

Goodpart
Jan 9, 2004

Be top tier, my friend.


Orange Crush Rush posted:

E.Ryu is actually a lot of fun. Oni is just weird as all hell, and fighting him kind of confuses me. Does that slash move always cross up or what.
It's based on distance and strength. HK and EX are the only ones that can cross up.

Blinn
Mar 24, 2005



Wassup y'all, you're speaking to the rank 3 Fei Long in Europe.

Goodpart
Jan 9, 2004

Be top tier, my friend.


Blinn posted:

Wassup y'all, you're speaking to the rank 3 Fei Long in Europe.
Rank 1 Fei in Australia*

*this means nothing and is likely untrue

halwain
May 31, 2011


http://twitter.com/!/CapcomEuro/status/78123454066458624

goddamnit

breasts own
Dec 2, 2006

Eyebrows!

Is BP online in AE done arcade style?(bigger numbers)

Smegmatron
Apr 23, 2003

Happy days are at an end, scumbags. Happy days are at an end.

40 OZ posted:

Who's got the nasty genei-jin combos? Give em up.

I literally posted one a page back pre-empting this question. Like systran said, the big damage comes off of the first few hits and the reset at the end. The biggest hitting moves in a genei-jin will always be palm and hop kick. Try to maximise those and cut down on the lunges since they're kind of pathetic damage wise in GJ.

Smegmatron posted:

Here is a Genei-Jin combo for you all since I'm sure it's just a matter of minutes until somebody asks:

HK, LP Lunge, f.MK x3, sMP, f.MK, HP Palm, LP Lunge, MP, f.MK x2, f.HP, LP Lunge, cl.MK xx HJC Dive Kick Reset

You jump cancel the final cl.MK, then hit a MK or LK dive kick and take your pick of shenanigans after that. The final dive kick won't hit if you've run out of blue poo poo. LP shoulder will cross under and hit on the other side after the dive kick.

Also I can't wait for the Dragon Ball Z fanboys to get sick of getting thrashed on XBL and go away. I'm already sick of fighting button mashing Oni and Emo Ryu.

Smegmatron fucked around with this message at Jun 7, 2011 around 16:12

40 OZ
May 16, 2003


Smegmatron posted:

Here is a Genei-Jin combo for you all since I'm sure it's just a matter of minutes until somebody asks:

Well, at least I fulfilled your prophecy for you. Thanks, though.

I stayed up all night for this poo poo, and endured months of people with arcades telling us that this game sucks. For like 3 days I'm going to enjoy Evil Ryu and pointless Genei-Jin combos until this game makes me a cynical bastard like it did everyone else.

StabMasterArson
May 31, 2011

your my realest friend


I guess I was stupid for thinking this was going to be free. 1200 MSP for 3 and a halfish new characters and replay mode is almost activision level.

systran
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

StabMasterArson posted:

I guess I was stupid for thinking this was going to be free. 1200 MSP for 3 and a halfish new characters and replay mode is almost activision level.

The main thing is the rebalancing

Dosvidanya
May 28, 2004

I don't advertise for free

You too can pay 1200msp for top tier now

Gazmachine
May 22, 2005

Happy Happy Breakdance Challenge 4

StabMasterArson posted:

I guess I was stupid for thinking this was going to be free.

Yes. Yes you were.

I may also be being stupid, but I can't actually find this on PSN still. Where the gently caress is it?

Hactar
Aug 8, 2004

Coup de Grace


Gazmachine posted:

I may also be being stupid, but I can't actually find this on PSN still. Where the gently caress is it?

Gazmachine
May 22, 2005

Happy Happy Breakdance Challenge 4

Hactar posted:




Gotcha, thanks. PSN strikes again!

Nice of Sony to put a notice up to let us knOHWAIT.

Beautiful Ninja
Mar 25, 2009

Five time FCW Champion...of my heart.


Since I'm broke and can't buy AE yet, I downloaded the SSF4 update patch deal, does that patch the current SSF4 characters to AE balance, just that I can't use the new characters, or do I still have SSF4 balancing in place?

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


Is it true that the 4 new guys don't have trial modes?

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!


BurningCourage posted:

Is it true that the 4 new guys don't have trial modes?

Yeah, it kinda sucks. I went over to SRK and wrote down what I needed anyway.

Zombiecop
Jul 2, 2007


BurningCourage posted:

Is it true that the 4 new guys don't have trial modes?

Yes. When you go to challange mode sf4 says something like "AE mode is disabled here" and it's just the same stuff from super.

pokecapn
Oct 17, 2003

yeah, galo sengen

StabMasterArson posted:

I guess I was stupid for thinking this was going to be free. 1200 MSP for 3 and a halfish new characters and replay mode is almost activision level.

Wait till you find out how much the costumes cost!!

BurningCourage
Mar 13, 2007


Surely Capcom would eventually give the new chars some sort of trial mode? Seems strange to leave them out, especially when there's all sorts of footage around to draw some combos from.

AXE COP
Apr 16, 2010

i always feel like

somebody's watching me


Beautiful Ninja posted:

Since I'm broke and can't buy AE yet, I downloaded the SSF4 update patch deal, does that patch the current SSF4 characters to AE balance, just that I can't use the new characters, or do I still have SSF4 balancing in place?

No you're still playing normal Super. There's a toggle that lets you switch to AE when you have it purchased.

Cat Machine
Jun 18, 2008

EASY OPERATION

Yun still says DRAT NO CONDOM ON and has his 'Cheap hat' win quote

GJ feels a lot slower than 3S GJ though, like I actually have to take pauses in my inputs in a corner combo to stop them flying out into midscreen again, plus extended GJ feels really weird and I keep doing 3S GJ enders when the meter is like 1/2 done

Beautiful Ninja
Mar 25, 2009

Five time FCW Champion...of my heart.


AXE COP posted:

No you're still playing normal Super. There's a toggle that lets you switch to AE when you have it purchased.

Thanks. I guess I'll enjoy Rose's unnerfed Ultra 2 for a couple more days.

Cat Machine
Jun 18, 2008

EASY OPERATION

Why are there no trials

why is there no Hugo icon

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


Capcom over at E3 will be talking AE tomorrow at 11:30 PST/2:30 EST on Capcom-Unity's stream.

Cat Machine
Jun 18, 2008

EASY OPERATION

NO RIVAL BATTLE INTROS

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!


Beautiful Ninja posted:

Since I'm broke and can't buy AE yet, I downloaded the SSF4 update patch deal, does that patch the current SSF4 characters to AE balance, just that I can't use the new characters, or do I still have SSF4 balancing in place?

I'm pretty sure the patch is just to integrate AE into super. You don't get anything unless you actually buy AE.

The Joe Man
Apr 7, 2007

Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

Can someone elaborate on how the "choose SSF4 or AE" mode works? I won't be able to play with it until PC version but I loathe the input change they made to Bison's U2 and I'm a one character guy.

Sex_Ferguson
Oct 22, 2010

Show me a good time, Jack!

Cat Machine posted:

Why are there no trials

why is there no Hugo icon

No trials? Seriously?

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

Shumpin'


Am I the only person who liked Alex from 3S? Will he ever be in a game again?

40 OZ
May 16, 2003


The Joe Man posted:

Can someone elaborate on how the "choose SSF4 or AE" mode works? I won't be able to play with it until PC version but I loathe the input change they made to Bison's U2 and I'm a one character guy.

I'm not certain you will be able to play SSF4 on the PC one.

Even if you could, what exactly would you do? Just form like an alternate scene of disgruntled players who had their characters nerfed, and just play that way?

You cannot escape the nerfs. We are all in this together, man.

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Am I the only person who liked Alex from 3S? Will he ever be in a game again?

No, lots of people like him, and he has been in other games. Specifically, Capcom Fighting Evolution and Tatsunoko Vs Capcom.

Capcom being Capcom, I would think he would show up in SFvT because they are lazy and its likely they would just spruce up the TvC version.

40 OZ fucked around with this message at Jun 7, 2011 around 19:25

Sade
Aug 3, 2009

Can't touch this.
No really, you can't


The Joe Man posted:

Can someone elaborate on how the "choose SSF4 or AE" mode works? I won't be able to play with it until PC version but I loathe the input change they made to Bison's U2 and I'm a one character guy.

You can change between SSF4 or AE mode in the options. If you're in SSF4 mode then you're playing SSF4. If you're in AE mode then you're playing AE. That's it.

Also Evil Ryu owns, here is some stuff I found out playing ranked for like 30 minutes:

The axe kick is an amazing move. Breaks armor, tons of damage TONS OF STUN and super safe.

E-Ryu's normals are pretty nuts. His low forward is slow, but it moves you forward, which means low forward xx fireball always combos (!!).

You can do some kinda wacky Bison-style pressure with low forward xx LK axe kick.

E-Ryu has the coolest bnb combo in this game by far. Stand fierce xx MK axe kick > low strong xx LK tatsu > HP shoryu FADC HP shakunetsu. so much damaaaaage

Oh and far standing strong is a craaaazy good normal. It beats the twins' divekicks clean at a lot of ranges.

Cat Machine
Jun 18, 2008

EASY OPERATION

The Joe Man posted:

Can someone elaborate on how the "choose SSF4 or AE" mode works? I won't be able to play with it until PC version but I loathe the input change they made to Bison's U2 and I'm a one character guy.
You'll have to learn it or spend all of your SSF4 experience playing alone

Sex_Ferguson
Oct 22, 2010

Show me a good time, Jack!

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Am I the only person who liked Alex from 3S? Will he ever be in a game again?

Him and Dudley were my favorite 3S characters.

Beautiful Ninja
Mar 25, 2009

Five time FCW Champion...of my heart.


Mechafunkzilla posted:

Am I the only person who liked Alex from 3S? Will he ever be in a game again?

He was in Tatsunoko vs Capcom

I'm holding on to hope for Karin to get into SSF4 AE. Yun was able to escape back from the horrible Capcom Fighting Jam into a real game, maybe there is hope for Alex and Karin yet.

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Kuai
May 25, 2004


I don't think SSF4AE PC will even have the option of playing normal SSF4.

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