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RoboJoe posted:No it's not, neither in the EU or the US, it hasn't been for some months now. Thye probably ran out of CD Keys or got annoyed with Ubisofts poor patch support on Steam for it or something (I don't know for sure but thats the rumour). I thought it had been confirmed that Steam pulled it because Ubisoft refused to patch it.
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Palleon posted:I thought it had been confirmed that Steam pulled it because Ubisoft refused to patch it. Well that blows. I really like having everything condensed to one play, aka Steam, since I don't forget about stuff when its there. I may still pick it up, I am unsure thus far though. Any reason what Ubisoft was being a bitch about patching it?
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bagmonkey posted:Well that blows. I really like having everything condensed to one play, aka Steam, since I don't forget about stuff when its there. I may still pick it up, I am unsure thus far though. Any reason what Ubisoft was being a bitch about patching it? Ubisoft patched the game to fix it, the problem is they refused to give Steam the patch, and it was for save corruption issues, a pretty big deal. I think Ubisoft and Steam just had some pissing match at some point in the past about a game so Ubisoft decided to stop supporting their games on there, so Steam cut them off. If you buy the game elsewhere you can still get it patched up just fine and it's an awesome game and worth it, even though the Ubisoft is terrible in general.
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Palleon posted:Ubisoft patched the game to fix it, the problem is they refused to give Steam the patch, and it was for save corruption issues, a pretty big deal. I think Ubisoft and Steam just had some pissing match at some point in the past about a game so Ubisoft decided to stop supporting their games on there, so Steam cut them off. If you buy the game elsewhere you can still get it patched up just fine and it's an awesome game and worth it, even though the Ubisoft is terrible in general. The awkward thing is that the EU version of DoD (at least the english one) on Steam has the latest patch. German and US versions are stuck on old ones.
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1701 was the last game in the series I've played. Someone once described it as "economic Jenga" where if you lost one resource everything came tumbling down. It felt like I was following a build order, doing the same things every game and never really hooked me. Did Dawn of Discovery change that at all?
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You. I will defeat you in the battle of Doctrine and control of the Sa-Matra. While losing one part of a resource chain will stop you getting the end result that your poulation need they won't outright revolt for a lack of it. If you can't get them an item then they just won't upgrade to the next tier of population or if they are at the Nobleman level then they won't pay as much tax if you can't give them all they want. Most production chains are fairly simple or the resources are generally abundant enough to take care of all the needs as long as you have the space and resources for the needed buildings.
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Two things that a lot of new players tend to miss in 1404: Taxes don't have to be fully green. In fact, you should keep them in the middle unless you've built new houses or need to upgrade. The middle happiness level means they won't move in or out, the second highest means they'll move in(=fill up houses so they'll pay more tax) but won't advance to the next level and the highest happiness level is required to upgrade to the next level. Keeping your population at the correct tax level is absolutely crucial to balancing your economy. The other thing is items. I have two types of item that I really love: +25% production and -x% maintenance cost. The production items are really loving powerful(see this chart) and getting three +25% carpet/coffee/perfume production items is basically a license to print money. Simply overproduce the goods in question and sell them via trade routes to Northburgh for mad cash. It won't show up directly in your income but trust me, active selling will make you a buttload of money with production boosters. The maintentance items are great because they effectively increase your profits permanently for the entire game. -100% maintenance cost item on a 60g maintenance ship? That's 60g/tick profit forever. A lot of -maintenance items will really add up. I recommend refreshing item stocks as often as possible to fish for -maintenance and +production items. Doniazade fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jun 17, 2011 |
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I've finally got around to editing the bulk of the Anno 1404 information I made into the OP now, I'll tweak it more as times goes on, and I'll epsecially tweak the Anno 2070 section when we hear more information. I hope what I've put there is acceptable and makes sense for both veterans and newcomers to the series. If anyone has any tips or suggestions or corrections for any part of the first two posts then please tell me and I will edit in any tips and credit you for it.
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Apologies for a double post but I have some Anno 2070 updates. There is a Twitter with vague information for Anno 2070 in german, however one of the Ubisoft people has been translating these to english on the official forum over a couple of weeks (I haven't been tehre recently and jsut found they actually made an english forum as before it was all german) so I thought I'd copy those here:quote:[June 20th 2011] Solar collectors are not be missed in the future. But where will they appear in ANNO 2070? You can find the Twitter here: http://twitter.com/ANNO_DE The thread for the translations is here: http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3231027629/m/6201063929 Edit: Sounds like there might be something different in this game to do with oceans, possibly building cities underwater/floating cities? Or at least building something in the ocean found with the Scanner Ship maybe. Whoever EVE is sounds...odd, I hope they don't go adding some kind of silly personification of the Earth you trade with or something. RoboJoe fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Jun 21, 2011 |
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RoboJoe posted:Edit: I'm hoping it's a rogue AI which has taken on the personality of Leif.
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Decrepus posted:1701 was the last game in the series I've played. Someone once described it as "economic Jenga" where if you lost one resource everything came tumbling down. It felt like I was following a build order, doing the same things every game and never really hooked me. Did Dawn of Discovery change that at all? This is how Dawn of Discovery feels to me. The fact that there's only one path forward essentially, and the rampant cheating by the AI, sucked a lot of the fun out. Once I played it a single time I felt like subsequent playthoughs didn't have much to offer me, and the AI basically just doing its thing without following the same rules you're constrained by sucks a lot. I guess having separate sides in this new one might help things, but the latest game really does lack variety to its gameplay.
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Anno 1404 was a fun game for the sandbox/continuous single player mode. Multiplayer was a letdown because a game takes somewhere around 10 hours to finish, so you're not likely going to be motivated to pick it up again after the first session. Really, what makes me sad is that Blue Byte is a wonderful developer, but they are saddled with Ubisoft, one of the worst publishers. Anno and The Settlers 7 really captured my imagination but I cannot play them in good conscience knowing that Ubisoft is involved. It's a niche game made by Germans for Germans, and it's a shame because its such a charming game. A little nip-tuck to the game mechanics and it would be one of my favorite games of all time. Ubisoft can go gently caress themselves, though.
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I used to regularly play multiplayer with friends every night. Games were long but they were still a blast.
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Palleon posted:I'm hoping it's a rogue AI which has taken on the personality of Leif. *burns houses down* Whatever I've done, I'm sorry.  Lassitude posted:This is how Dawn of Discovery feels to me. The fact that there's only one path forward essentially, and the rampant cheating by the AI, sucked a lot of the fun out. Once I played it a single time I felt like subsequent playthoughs didn't have much to offer me, and the AI basically just doing its thing without following the same rules you're constrained by sucks a lot. I guess having separate sides in this new one might help things, but the latest game really does lack variety to its gameplay.
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I've compiled some news that were posted on various German news sites recently, here goes: Minimum specs The current minimum specs are supposed to be 2.0 GHz Dual-Core-CPU, 2G RAM and a Shader-3.0-GPU (Geforce 6/Radeon X1000 and upward) with 512M RAM. This is pretty much the config you needed to play 1404 in medium details so if that's what you played on, chances are 2070 won't run (well). Direct X11 They did some testing and found out it has no real advantages over Direct X10, at least in this game. 2070 is going to run on 10, 9 ("heavily optimized") if you use Windows XP. Lighting Lighting is going to be a big deal in 2070. They're using Deferred Rendering (like Metro 2033 and Crysis 2) which according to them is able to produce an "almost infinite" number of light sources without slowing down. The big deal here is shadows; everything in the cities will reflect sunlight, there will be video walls and tons of other light emitting sources and Deferred Rendering makes it possible to display shadows not only from the main light source (the sun) but have them be altered by the light emitted by other sources, reflections etc. Basically the game is gonna look like an LSD trip and you'll freak the gently caress out. Water The water is supposed to be even more awesome then before; the big news here is that they are NOT using PhysX but compiled their own physics engine which is 100% GPU. This means that you are not bound to using an NVidia card if you wanna get the best water effects, it will work the same on ATI. Waves will be physical objects made from polygons and thus crash into each other and the shore in proper physical detail. There's also going to be rain which runs down the surface of your buildings and collects in puddles on the ground. Lastly, rivers will no longer be "plains" but will have depth to them, which results in interfering currents. Random bits of news There will be pirates. There will be a multiplayer but they have no idea what it's going to look like yet. There will be an expansion pack at some point (duh). There will be natural disasters. The amount of natural disasters to hit you will depend on your choice of Eco/Tycoon, Eco obviously being the "better" one here. Both sims will be able to create technology to deal with these disasters though. Last poo poo they posted on twitter: "ANNO_DE: These days already, there are drones being used for fights and recon missions. What about the future?  "
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I really like Anno 1404. I'm a sucker for games with a nice sort of whimsical artstyle and lush, vibrant colors (it's why I like the Fable games eventhough their gameplay isn't exactly greatest) and I'm also gay for anything historical. Nevertheless the game only manages to hold my attention for an hour or so per day. Like some of the posters have pointed out, you're basically following a techtree untill you reach the end of some goal. Right now getting enough gems to get all the vanity buildings is what's driving me, pretty much. I'm also not the most efficient player. I could build a bunch of houses in this open spot, but why not a huge fountain surrounded by St. Mark's statues instead? To keep things interesting I try to make really pretty cities instead of the boring sterile monstrocities I see some of you make.
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Ok, I just bought and installed Dawn of Discovery from GamersGate. Turns out they apparently forgot to give me a 2nd serial key for Dawn of Discovery and only gave me a key for Venice. Or did I completely miss something? Venice via Addon.exe works fine/activated fine but did this piece of poo poo service seriously forget to give out the second key required for the original game Anno4.exe? Did I completely overlook something?
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That's odd indeed, so if you try to launch the Anno4.exe for the base game it requests a CD Key too? I owned the base game on DVD but when I wanted the expansion I decided to get the Gold version from Direct2drive, and they gave me a single CDkey for the Gold version, and I'm quite sure if I load up the expansion or the base game it's the gold version using that single CDkey. I'm not too sure what to suggest, have you tried inputting the key again if it requests it? Messaging the Gamersgate support or maybe even Ubisoft support could help.
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I absolutely love this series, I own every game of it multiple times due to either having disks worn out or it being cheap and thinking I lost a copy. Sometimes I wonder why so few games of these kind are made, but then I realize that if you make games that people easily play for 500hours there isn't a whole lot of time for different ones in the same genre.
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RoboJoe posted:That's odd indeed, so if you try to launch the Anno4.exe for the base game it requests a CD Key too? Yeah, I emailed support. The serial key absolutely does not work with the base game, it's only for the expansion. Apparently, someone else had this problem when they bought Dawn of Discovery Gold from GamersGate, too, and had to jump through some hoops with their support to get the second required key, ugghhh. I don't know who to blame. GamersGate's incompetence or Ubisoft's terrible support for this game? I wish I bought it off Direct2Drive. Anndd I think I'm done venting! Just a heads up that if you're looking to buy the Gold edition then skip GamersGate and just buy it from Direct2Drive instead.
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XausF1 posted:Ok, I just bought and installed Dawn of Discovery from GamersGate. Turns out they apparently forgot to give me a 2nd serial key for Dawn of Discovery and only gave me a key for Venice. Or did I completely miss something? Venice via Addon.exe works fine/activated fine but did this piece of poo poo service seriously forget to give out the second key required for the original game Anno4.exe? Did I completely overlook something? Ubi patched out all DRM for Anno 1404 about two years ago so they don't even ship them with CD Keys anymore (my DVD version was bought during that period and is patched up already; it doesn't ask for a key, neither did it come with one). I don't know how GamersGate works but if their installer still asks for a key they haven't given you the "current" one. It's one of those cases where I can legitimately recommend you to get the DVD iso via :files: or something.
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Actually, Ubi patched out the DRM for all retail/physical copies only. All digitally distributed versions of the game still come loaded to the brim with Tages DRM.
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Who'd have thought in Anno 2011 I would actually decide to buy a physical boxed copy of a PC game. Plus ça change...
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quote:[July 1st 2011] Some interesting gameplay features in ANNO 2070 are certainly attached to the Senate. There hasn't been any real news lately as far as I can tell so I thought I'd update the thread with some information from translated Twitter thread. It sounds to me like Concrete will be the new version of Stone, just a simple base building material, unless of course it's something thats a multi-stage building resource like Glass was but I more inclined to thinking it's the start. Overpopulation could be interesting, maybe that'll be the biggest disadvantage to going ECO and the Tycoons can build giant skyscrapers to ease it. Or it's just a remark saying you'll have much bigger populations than in previous games and it has no gameplay effect apart from than the usual population needs for upgrading your civilization. I'm assuming the Senate will be used like the similar mechanaic in 1404 Venice where you can slowly buy seats on a council on an island and gain control of it that way but maybe it'll be a different thing involving the governing of all your own islands. So little information yet so much to speculate on.
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Sales! Anno 1404 / Dawn of Discovery Gold is $12 on Amazon this weekend http://www.amazon.com/Dawn-of-Discovery-Gold-Download/dp/B003BVIXV8 Anno 1701 is $7.50 on Steam until the 10th http://store.steampowered.com/app/7870 Amazon is a decent place to buy from as you can redownload after purchase.
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edit: whoops, n/m. Completely different games!
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1404 question for you guys, the complete 30 quests in a hard game without missing one achievment, how the hell do you actually do that, i know for fact ive done that, several times, what am i missing?
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Graviton v2 posted:1404 question for you guys, the complete 30 quests in a hard game without missing one achievment, how the hell do you actually do that, i know for fact ive done that, several times, what am i missing? You are probably missing hidden quests. You know, havary or flotsam quests that only get mentioned and a log-book entry when you actually find and click on the persons/crates. Also the quests that the populace gives, which can happen across all your islands in various buildings at pretty much any time without warning. If you don't accept them and they expire (they're not around forever), you're screwed. Yeah, this is a rather tough one. As far as i know, there's no way to check whether you already missed one or if there's a hidden quests available somewhere at the moment. You just have to scan all your islands and the sea now and again to make sure you're not missing out on quests. And you don't have to do this on hard, i'm pretty sure. Do an easy continuous game on a small map, populate only one island and eplore the sea as quickly as possible.
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duz posted:Sales! Is 1701 worth playing if you already have 1404? I think I might be more interested in getting it if it had the old-school sprite graphics.
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HenryEx posted:You are probably missing hidden quests. You know, havary or flotsam quests that only get mentioned and a log-book entry when you actually find and click on the persons/crates. Also the quests that the populace gives, which can happen across all your islands in various buildings at pretty much any time without warning. If you don't accept them and they expire (they're not around forever), you're screwed.
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I bought 1701 when I was in Houston on a lark because it was cheap and had a pretty sailboat on the cover. Got around to installing it last night and played for 6 hours  Still not totally secure on the economic balance thing, but hopefully I'll get it right soon.
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Time for my weekly roundup of the Twitters!quote:[July 8th 2011] Volcanic eruptions will have various effects in ANNO 2070, such as the destruction of buildings and environments and the respective consequences. Natural disasters and whatnot still being in 2070 is good, some people love building up an empire then seeing it all fall apart from a volcano or earthquake  Viruses sound more a technological virus rather than a plague (although it wouldn't surprise me if some sanitation related problem is in the game) which might possibly be part of whatever espionage system they have in place or maybe just something that can develop the more focused on tech you are.The multiple energy production buildings sound like various ones for the two factions, something like wind or water power for ECOs and fossil fuel or nuclear for the tycoons, maybe geothermal power statitions too. I can imagine hotspots in various locations on islands (think like in 1404 the parts of rivers where you can build paper mills) like points on the coast or uranium mines where you can build a better power station. I really hope we can get some actual good information from Gamescon, all these teasses just leads to me rampantly speculating about things and getting excited
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Yay, pirates. I hope they will be at least as awesome as in 1404. The permanent alliance, treasure maps, etc was a really fun addition.  I'm happy and slightly ashamed to announce that earlier today, with at least 100 hours played total, I finally got around to finishing building the Sultan's Mosque for the first time.
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I ordered Anno 1404 from an Amazon seller and just got Dawn of Discovery in the mail!  Oh well, I guess they're identical. Now I just have to find a hard copy of Venice for less than $40.
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Not really sold on the look of 2070. The historical games made for iconic buildings and just struck me as more attractive. 2070 looks kinda 'generic' sci-fi. I wish they'd gone back and time and maybe done some ancients. Babylonians or Romans or something. Although, I suppose Rome is the most generic historical city builder. Was there ever a Mesoamerican city builder game? I'd love to sacrifice little conquistidors on my pyramids.
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If the chap running the OP is still around, you might want to edit it for UK/Euro types as the getgamesgo website version has long been the cheapest around for us. Atm it's £10 cheaper than any of the others and they occasionally stick it on sale for another fiver off.
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Fazana posted:If the chap running the OP is still around, you might want to edit it for UK/Euro types as the getgamesgo website version has long been the cheapest around for us. Atm it's £10 cheaper than any of the others and they occasionally stick it on sale for another fiver off. Sure I'll put that in there, thanks! Fintilgin posted:Not really sold on the look of 2070. The historical games made for iconic buildings and just struck me as more attractive. 2070 looks kinda 'generic' sci-fi. It definitely seems a interesting move to go into the future, some people like it and some poeple don't. I think they did this to see what things they could do with a future setting, I suppose how well its recieved is whether they'll make the next game in the past or in the future somewhere. Anno 2700 based around colonizing a new planet or planets would be pretty cool! It would be interesting to see an Anno game set in an earlier era than any of the current ones though. RoboJoe fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jul 12, 2011 |
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Anno 20,000 BC: The spoiled chieftains have developed new needs! New need unlocked: Mammoth steaks New building unlocked: Mammoth hunter's cave
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