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Practical Demon
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!


Sydney Bottocks posted:

And now a tribute to Dr. Bombay!

But you're a girl-doctor, Doctor!

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Veni, vidi, Lombardi.


What happened to the day-ball?

Bitchtits McGee
Jul 1, 2011

Hey McGee, you're back! You get that depression all cleared up?

IN TIME BEFORE BORN, LIVE MAN, SAIL SEA.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Bottocks. Neither one thing nor the other.

Bitchtits McGee posted:

IN TIME BEFORE BORN, LIVE MAN, SAIL SEA.

LOVE LIFT UP WHERE BELONG.

Zeether
Aug 26, 2011


The ocean. Source of all bad movies.

Zamboni_Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

The Canadians heard us
making fun of them, and got all
fucked up on hockey.


Futhark posted:

Do something!

Gah...

There's a point at which it stops being a movie.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Bottocks. Neither one thing nor the other.

Zamboni_Rodeo posted:

There's a point at which it stops being a movie.

Maybe the Japanese didn't really know they were making a film, per se. Maybe they thought they were working in a totally different medium, like fabric sculpture or something.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

I got the wim-wams
somethin' terrible!


I don't want to feel again the worm.

Command Ant
Aug 9, 2010

In exchange for a wish
You took my soul
And you put it inside

A Faberge Egg?!


Mister Kingdom posted:

I don't want to feel again the worm.

Well, that's too bad, becuase NOW YOU GONNA BE THE WORM FACE!!!

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Bottocks. Neither one thing nor the other.

Whoa, Stiv Bators' pissed!

Bitchtits McGee
Jul 1, 2011

Hey McGee, you're back! You get that depression all cleared up?

Jon Lovitz refuses a drink. As does Andy Warhol.

Paul Revere 3000
Dec 8, 2007

So like a pimp I'm pimpin'
I got a boat to eat shrimp in
Nothing wrong with my leg
I'm just B-boy limpin'


Sydney Bottocks posted:

Whoa, Stiv Bators' pissed!

Please, sir, just pay the parking fine!

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Bottocks. Neither one thing nor the other.

Bitchtits McGee posted:

Jon Lovitz refuses a drink. As does Andy Warhol.

Looking very relaxed, Hugh Beaumont on sax.

Bitchtits McGee
Jul 1, 2011

Hey McGee, you're back! You get that depression all cleared up?

And the Oak Ridge Boys take the stand!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

JACKASSERY!


Just got a delivery from Amazon, This Island Earth! Can't wait to see the whole shlocky thing in its entirety!

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

...identity dicks?



And if your hands were made of metal, that would mean something!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

JACKASSERY!


So far, there's already an extended scene of Meachem and Weenie Guy screwing around with the bead things.

So many lost opportunities....

Dr_Strangelove
Dec 16, 2003

The runiation of the "Pictures of Women" thread was a collective effort, Mein Führer.

If Universal weren't run by idiots, it would have been a lot longer. And funnier. You know about the joke about the mutant that they demanded be changed?

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

JACKASSERY!


Dr_Strangelove posted:

If Universal weren't run by idiots, it would have been a lot longer. And funnier. You know about the joke about the mutant that they demanded be changed?

I do not. But I did just see Brack incinerate the German just after he blew up the car.

Dr_Strangelove
Dec 16, 2003

The runiation of the "Pictures of Women" thread was a collective effort, Mein Führer.

Supposedly, when the mutant first appears, the riff was to be, "BOOTSY COLLINS!" Clearly, a reference it its round, rimmed eyes, and his trademark round glasses.

But the Universal production execs didn't get the joke. And they figured that if they didn't get it, then Middle America sure as hell wouldn't. So, it was changed to "LEONA HELMSLEY!" That reference that had lost its punch by 1996, and it would have made no little or no sense even circa 1989 when she was topical.

And don't forget this nugget from the Season 7 ACEG:

quote:

The host segments were an exercise in healing after our struggle to make the Mystery Science Theater movie. It was a difficult process, and not really fun at all -- working with the studio and all the attendant politics and creative roadblocks was really, really frustrating. We didn't have the freedom to be as irreverent and eclectic as we were in the TV show. We had to work with people who had silly names that they had made up for themselves. I remember at one point, while the studio shepherds in charge of MST3K: The Movie were in Minneapolis, it was during the height of the ubiquitous O.J. Simpson deal. The studio exec informed us over lunch that there was a big trial in Los Angeles with O.J. Simpson because he'd been accused of murdering his wife, and "had (we) heard anything about it out here?" It was like a hog-pile on our souls.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

JACKASSERY!


Well, almost all the way through it now, and a lot of what was cut seems to just be pointless exposition and additional space scenes that really didn't add much to the plot. All the important bits of the plot survived for Mike, Trace, and Kevin to rip to pieces.

Although there's one thing that should never have been cut. As Exeter, Ruth, and Cal escape Metaluna, there's some clear shots of Zagon ships ferrying meteors for the final assault. And as one of the ships drops its payload....you can clearly see the wire rigging involved in dropping the meteor. I couldn't help myself, and paraphrased 12 To The Moon.

"THERE WAS CLEARLY A WIRE INVOLVED!"

edit: So pretty much, if anyone tells you that the uncut, full version of T.I.E. is an entirely different movie, they are a liar.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Bottocks. Neither one thing nor the other.

The sad part is, there really wasn't a need for MST3K: The Movie. If I recall correctly, it played in a very limited release, so the only people that went to see it in the theater were already fans of the show (like me, I saw it in some tiny-rear end theater in northern Indiana ); it was shorter than an average episode of the show; and because they had to deal with the usual Hollywood bullshit it wasn't nearly as funny as a typical episode (it was still funny, just not anywhere close to the quality they were capable of doing).

I sometimes wonder what season 7 would have been like if they hadn't been so focused on doing the film. I'm sure it still would have been the last season for them on Comedy Central, and the six episodes they did were pure gold, but I can't help but wish they had another six or seven or so to go along with 'em.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

JACKASSERY!


Yeah, I can get behind that sentiment.

But I can't help but hope that one day Universal will let the rights to T.I.E. slip and we'll get a Rifftrax Live event like Manos, but with the full feature.

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003


Next DVD set:

110- ROBOT HOLOCAUST
508- OPERATION DOUBLE 007*
615- KITTEN WITH A WHIP
801- REVENGE OF THE CREATURE

*This will be released as Operation Kid Brother, because they couldn't get the rights to the other name.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

I got the wim-wams
somethin' terrible!


Action Jacktion posted:

Next DVD set:

110- ROBOT HOLOCAUST
508- OPERATION DOUBLE 007*
615- KITTEN WITH A WHIP
801- REVENGE OF THE CREATURE

*This will be released as Operation Kid Brother, because they couldn't get the rights to the other name.

Robot Holocaust? gently caress yeah!

I wonder how they're going to handle the titling of Double 007? Will they go all Film Ventures on it?

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

JACKASSERY!


Action Jacktion posted:

Next DVD set:

110- ROBOT HOLOCAUST
508- OPERATION DOUBLE 007*
615- KITTEN WITH A WHIP
801- REVENGE OF THE CREATURE

*This will be released as Operation Kid Brother, because they couldn't get the rights to the other name.

Niiiiice.

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003


Mister Kingdom posted:

I wonder how they're going to handle the titling of Double 007? Will they go all Film Ventures on it?

I suppose the packaging will have Kid Brother while the episode itself will be unchanged.

And it looks like they finally came to an agreement with Universal, which made 615 and 801. More of the early Sci-Fi episodes could follow. (The earliest Sci-Fi episode on video is actually The Giant Spider Invasion, 810.)

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

JACKASSERY!


Hey, you know what we haven't had in awhile?


DRAAAAAAAAAWIIIIIING SIIIIIIIIIIIIGN!!!


Galaxy Being KOLOS has come to earth as a middle manager of the Human Duplicator project, and oversees most of the scheduling, staffing, and janitorial services of the evil global coup.

Dr. Kolos, who may not be an actual Doctor, is difficult to defeat in combat. He does not have particularly powerful moves, nor is he agile. What makes Kolos challenging is the sheer number of him you end up fighting. Every thirty seconds Kolos remains in combat, a new Kolos is produced and slowly begins marching toward his opponent. Any enemy of Kolos will quickly be engulfed by a Chinese terracotta army of Richard Kiels.

Each duplicate Kolos has a large amount of health, and the longer the fight drags on, the more chance he has to augment his synthetic army.


Japanese Justice force MIGHTY JACK mobilizes this submersible jet/submarine/mech when battling the forces of evil. Piloted by Harold Atari (with a single button joystick) MIGHTY JACK is a versatile sweeper with surprising defensive capability.

Utilizing the secret weapon schematics of their enemy "Q" the MIGHTY JACK team has outfitted their ship with a deadly new weapon: "hot ice". While it's original use was a topical rubefacient heat rub meant for relieving pains such as arthritis, backache, muscle strains, sprains, and cramps, it can also freeze an opponent solid.

The antithesis to the Starfighter, this mech is more sturdy but lacks the explosive power of it's rival, in favor of more mobility and defense.


Doc Leopold was always known as a nut. He was that guy who would wander up and down the fish isle at Petsmart till it was time to close. Little did the citizens of Sarasota know that he was planning to conquer world with a fish army. Studying the cliff notes of Sun Tsu, Patton and Napoleon his goal was to rule southern Florida with an iron fin. Like all great generals, he knew the first step is creating an army is to transform yourself into a giant fish.

With his mutagen fluid ZAAT, he fused himself with the DNA of a walking catfish, which was a lateral move in the looks department.

Dr. Z handles a bit differently than "The Creature" and "The Horror" as he is a summoner-type and doesn't deal damage directly. The key to playing Dr. Z is to stay at range and summon waves of predatory fish to swarm your opponent. The "sargassum haze" spell will slow an opponent allowing Z to call even more destructive aquatic friends to plan revenge with. Though it takes considerable time to charge, his "megalodon crush" is one of the hardest hitting moves in the game.

BooDoug187
Apr 8, 2005

Don't you fear the yetis in Rio?

Action Jacktion posted:

Next DVD set:

110- ROBOT HOLOCAUST
508- OPERATION DOUBLE 007*
615- KITTEN WITH A WHIP
801- REVENGE OF THE CREATURE

*This will be released as Operation Kid Brother, because they couldn't get the rights to the other name.

Cool cool... any word on release date?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.




Dr_Strangelove posted:

If Universal weren't run by idiots, it would have been a lot longer. And funnier. You know about the joke about the mutant that they demanded be changed?

I still don't get why Universal handled this movie the way they did. It was a low budget picture- apparently the production cost was around $1 million, total. Even with distribution and advertising costs, it shouldn't have been hard to sell it enough that it makes that amount back. Why tinker with it? And why do it so extensively only to write it off anyway?

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Bottocks. Neither one thing nor the other.

Maxwell Lord posted:

I still don't get why Universal handled this movie the way they did. It was a low budget picture- apparently the production cost was around $1 million, total. Even with distribution and advertising costs, it shouldn't have been hard to sell it enough that it makes that amount back. Why tinker with it? And why do it so extensively only to write it off anyway?

In the days before "John Carter" and "Green Lantern", Hollywood used to treat "big-budget film that is in fact likely to flop hard" and "quirky small/indie film that will likely attract a niche audience" the same way when it came to publicity: they generally buried 'em.

My guess is that after doing all the test screenings and getting audience feedback from focus groups and whatnot (along with the usual Hollywood "make these completely unnecessary changes because I say so" BS), they decided that putting any money into promoting a film adapted from a flyover state's basic cable TV puppet show was likely just throwing good money after bad.

Another factor to keep in mind is that the same company that released MST3K:TM also released "Barb Wire" the same year. Which was no doubt a much easier film for them to understand and promote. At least that movie also flopped.

On the plus side, the whole process of making the (otherwise completely unnecessary) MST3K movie did give us the wonderful savaging of typical Hollywood goings-on in the "Incredible Melting Man" host segments.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.




Sydney Bottocks posted:

In the days before "John Carter" and "Green Lantern", Hollywood used to treat "big-budget film that is in fact likely to flop hard" and "quirky small/indie film that will likely attract a niche audience" the same way when it came to publicity: they generally buried 'em.

My guess is that after doing all the test screenings and getting audience feedback from focus groups and whatnot (along with the usual Hollywood "make these completely unnecessary changes because I say so" BS), they decided that putting any money into promoting a film adapted from a flyover state's basic cable TV puppet show was likely just throwing good money after bad.

I just don't get why, then, they insisted on such radical edits to start with. Their stake was so low that they could have dumped anything into theaters.

Bitchtits McGee
Jul 1, 2011

Hey McGee, you're back! You get that depression all cleared up?

A wise man once described getting burned by Hollywood as being like jumping into the monkey pit at the zoo and then climbing back out, complaining because you were bitten by a monkey. Making the movie was a dumb idea from start to finish, and the "Melting Man" segments are the sourest of grapes.

Payndz
Sep 22, 2006

I'm Peter Graves, and I was wondering if you could direct me to the natatorium. Thank you. I'm Peter Graves.

Bitchtits McGee posted:

A wise man once described getting burned by Hollywood as being like jumping into the monkey pit at the zoo and then climbing back out, complaining because you were bitten by a monkey. Making the movie was a dumb idea from start to finish, and the "Melting Man" segments are the sourest of grapes.
I dunno - I think that anyone can be starstruck and, for a brief shining period, believe that their vision will be the one that Hollywood puts on the screen unmolested. Really, "We love your show! We want you to do exactly what you've been doing, but with a bigger budget" would be hard to resist. You mock bad movies on a puppet show for a living, and suddenly you're being offered the chance to do that on the big screen backed by a major studio? Who could say no?

It's only once you've signed the contract that the true horror begins.

At least they got a new SoL model out of it, if nothing else.

Futhark
Apr 3, 2009


Hey, it's Ted Nelson from Ted Nelson's Plumbing and Heating!

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005




I'M DOCTOR TED NELSON!

Payndz
Sep 22, 2006

I'm Peter Graves, and I was wondering if you could direct me to the natatorium. Thank you. I'm Peter Graves.

Has there ever been a credible melting man?

Command Ant
Aug 9, 2010

In exchange for a wish
You took my soul
And you put it inside

A Faberge Egg?!


"The Incredible Melting Man" was an appropriately dreary, hopeless movie to go with their angry indictment of Hollywood's bullshit.

I also learned never to scream "I'M DOCTOR TED NELSON!" to a security guard.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Bottocks. Neither one thing nor the other.

Should I have said "goodbye"...?

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Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

I got the wim-wams
somethin' terrible!


Command Ant posted:

"The Incredible Melting Man" was an appropriately dreary, hopeless movie to go with their angry indictment of Hollywood's bullshit.

I also learned never to scream "I'M DOCTOR TED NELSON!" to a security guard.

I remember reading about The Incredible Melting Man in Starlog Magazine when it first came out and was eager to see it. Thankfully, I waited 20+ years.

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