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Abandon
Nov 23, 2006


how come that ginger pile of poo poo got to gently caress billy piper

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Kirk
Sep 22, 2003

"I'm baaaack!"

THC posted:

they really should have made a TNG movie where the main antagonist was Q. john de lancie owns too much

'nemesis' my rear end

just pretend that All Good Things was the TNG movie

mr_jim
Oct 30, 2006

OUT OF THE DARK



Kirk posted:

just pretend that All Good Things was the TNG movie

i taped All Good Things on VHS when it first aired. and was sad.

LinuxGirl87
Feb 13, 2006

by Ozmaugh


mr_jim posted:

i taped All Good Things on VHS when it first aired. and was sad.

Nigel Danvers
Oct 29, 2009



haveblue posted:

falling skies has the right amount of cheese, plus it gives me serious flashbacks to the Tripods novels and I ate that poo poo up when I was a kid

where the books any better than the TV series?

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



never saw the tv series but that is usually the case with stuff like this, especially that long ago

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??


i have a bunch of sci fi books on my shelf that i've never read/finished reading. which one should i start and hopefully finish???

dune (read maybe 1/4, got distracted)
the foundation (read maybe 1/2 twice, got distracted both times)
neuromancer (read maybe 1/4, got distracted)
i, robot
snow crash

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

iamthejeff posted:

i have a bunch of sci fi books on my shelf that i've never read/finished reading. which one should i start and hopefully finish???

dune (read maybe 1/4, got distracted)
the foundation (read maybe 1/2 twice, got distracted both times)
neuromancer (read maybe 1/4, got distracted)
i, robot
snow crash
those are all good.

read snow crash after neuromancer (in a lot of ways snow crash is a parody of the kind of fiction exemplified by neuromancer).

mr_jim
Oct 30, 2006

OUT OF THE DARK



iamthejeff posted:

i have a bunch of sci fi books on my shelf that i've never read/finished reading. which one should i start and hopefully finish???

dune (read maybe 1/4, got distracted)
the foundation (read maybe 1/2 twice, got distracted both times)
neuromancer (read maybe 1/4, got distracted)
i, robot
snow crash

all of them. i, robot is short stories, in case you're suffering from a short attention span.

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004


So hot ...

yeah if you're having problems getting through a whole book then start with i, robot, the parts are essentially unconnected

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??


mr_jim posted:

all of them. i, robot is short stories, in case you're suffering from a short attention span.

i can sit and read for hours, the problem is that i go through alternating phases in my life where i will really enjoy one thing for a short period of time and then move on. it sucks with books because i will get really far into one, then stop reading entirely for a few months and completely forget everything important.

johndis
Jun 23, 2009

by Ozmaugh


also read starship troopers

johndis
Jun 23, 2009

by Ozmaugh


iamthejeff posted:

i can sit and read for hours, the problem is that i go through alternating phases in my life where i will really enjoy one thing for a short period of time and then move on. it sucks with books because i will get really far into one, then stop reading entirely for a few months and completely forget everything important.

hope youll move on from posting soon...

qirex
Feb 15, 2001



iamthejeff posted:

i can sit and read for hours, the problem is that i go through alternating phases in my life where i will really enjoy one thing for a short period of time and then move on. it sucks with books because i will get really far into one, then stop reading entirely for a few months and completely forget everything important.

I seriously can't imagine doing this, if I go most of a week without reading I feel bad. Don't worry I read crap so it's not like I'm trying to establish some moral high ground

mr_jim
Oct 30, 2006

OUT OF THE DARK



iamthejeff posted:

i can sit and read for hours, the problem is that i go through alternating phases in my life where i will really enjoy one thing for a short period of time and then move on. it sucks with books because i will get really far into one, then stop reading entirely for a few months and completely forget everything important.

i've had that problem before, esp. when reading a long series (like foundation).

snowcrash moves along pretty quickly, and i remember neuromancer being a fast read too.

johndis
Jun 23, 2009

by Ozmaugh


i almost never read novels, but the last one i read i fuckn devoured it instantly and loved it so muchthat i dont really get why i dont read more?

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??


johndis posted:

i almost never read novels, but the last one i read i fuckn devoured it instantly and loved it so muchthat i dont really get why i dont read more?

fat joke

johndis
Jun 23, 2009

by Ozmaugh


< pretend thats a book and yah itsbasically me

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003

"I'm baaaack!"

iamthejeff posted:

dune (read maybe 1/4, got distracted)
the foundation (read maybe 1/2 twice, got distracted both times)
i, robot

mr_jim
Oct 30, 2006

OUT OF THE DARK



i picked up a copy of The Left Hand of Darkness at a used book sale a few years back, and didn't read it until a couple of weeks ago. it was ok, but i'm not sure if i liked it or not. are there any other le guin books i should check out?

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003

"I'm baaaack!"

left hand of fartness more like xd

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??


mr_jim posted:

i picked up a copy of The Left Hand of Darkness at a used book sale a few years back, and didn't read it until a couple of weeks ago. it was ok, but i'm not sure if i liked it or not. are there any other le guin books i should check out?

the dispossessed was okay also. it was super interesting but not one of those "what will happen next?!" kind of books.

maybe that's just the kind of books she writes??

coaxmetal
Oct 21, 2010

 


I recently finished Neal Stephenson's Anathem, that was a very good book. Stephenson is great (thought this is only the third book of his I have read, behind Cryptonomicon and Snow Crash).


Now re-reading the significantly less sci-fi song of ice and fire series in anticipation of the next book.

teledildonics
Sep 9, 2008

shame on a kitty who try to run game on a kitty

wu buck wild wit tha trigga



bout to start readin iain m. banks - use of weapons

i heard this poo poo is good. is it good?

mr_jim
Oct 30, 2006

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coaxmetal posted:

I recently finished Neal Stephenson's Anathem, that was a very good book. Stephenson is great (thought this is only the third book of his I have read, behind Cryptonomicon and Snow Crash).


Now re-reading the significantly less sci-fi song of ice and fire series in anticipation of the next book.

anathem is good, but reading it motivated me to try getting through the baroque cycle again. i made it half way through the second book before giving up last time. maybe i'll actually finish it this time.

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003

"I'm baaaack!"

relative_q posted:

bout to start readin iain m. banks - use of weapons

i heard this poo poo is good. is it good?

me too lets compare notes & fan drawings

qirex
Feb 15, 2001



relative_q posted:

bout to start readin iain m. banks - use of weapons

i heard this poo poo is good. is it good?

I like his stuff a lot because a lot of the traditional sci-fi cliches [FTL travel, immortality, AI, teleportation] are just an afterthought and a most of his aliens are really alien. Use of Weapons is kinda heavy but if you like it you'll like the other Culture books.

All my recent favorite sci fi authors are British:
- Iain M. Banks
- Ian Macdonald
- Alastair Reynolds

Louis Riel
Aug 25, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post


haveblue posted:

blade runner is almost nothing like do androids dream of electric sheep, they cut a ton and changed even more

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003

"I'm baaaack!"

i got into banks with consider phlebas, which owned. its not exactly dune but it was solid action and adventure through an interesting universe.

coaxmetal
Oct 21, 2010

 


mr_jim posted:

anathem is good, but reading it motivated me to try getting through the baroque cycle again. i made it half way through the second book before giving up last time. maybe i'll actually finish it this time.

Haven't tried the Baroque cycle yet, I think i'll read Diamond Age next, hear its good.

teledildonics
Sep 9, 2008

shame on a kitty who try to run game on a kitty

wu buck wild wit tha trigga



qirex posted:

I like his stuff a lot because a lot of the traditional sci-fi cliches [FTL travel, immortality, AI, teleportation] are just an afterthought and a most of his aliens are really alien. Use of Weapons is kinda heavy but if you like it you'll like the other Culture books.

All my recent favorite sci fi authors are British:
- Iain M. Banks
- Ian Macdonald
- Alastair Reynolds

i tend toward liking pretty heavy/hard sci-fi stuff, so i'm looking forward to this book a lot. it'll be a nice change of pace after the terry pratchett book i just read. of course, i'm also concurrently reading a biography of peter the great, so w/e

Louis Riel
Aug 25, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post


axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

I had me a vision
there wasn't any television



mr_jim posted:

i picked up a copy of The Left Hand of Darkness at a used book sale a few years back, and didn't read it until a couple of weeks ago. it was ok, but i'm not sure if i liked it or not. are there any other le guin books i should check out?

le Guin is one of my favorite writers so I would say all of them.

like the Left Hand of Darkness most of them are more about sociology and anthropology than most sci-fi. a very common theme is about civilization struggling to understand each other.

LHOD and The Dispossed are part of the loosely held together Hainish cycle. there's no canonical timeline of the Hainish stories, and there are several short stories that le Guin herself says she doesn't know if they fit in there or not. this is a good thing, and works well as a sperg deterrent.

I really like the Earthsea books, even if they were written for a young audience.

There are several collections of short stories, and I have enjoyed all of them. Check amazon and you can get many of them used for nearly nothing.

mr_jim
Oct 30, 2006

OUT OF THE DARK



axolotl farmer posted:

le Guin is one of my favorite writers so I would say all of them.

like the Left Hand of Darkness most of them are more about sociology and anthropology than most sci-fi. a very common theme is about civilization struggling to understand each other.

I noticed that, and it may be part of why I'm not sure what I think about it. I felt the same way about Solaris; it was sufficiently different from most other sci-fi books that it took me a while to get into it. I ended up really liking it though.

quote:

LHOD and The Dispossed are part of the loosely held together Hainish cycle. there's no canonical timeline of the Hainish stories, and there are several short stories that le Guin herself says she doesn't know if they fit in there or not. this is a good thing, and works well as a sperg deterrent.

I really like the Earthsea books, even if they were written for a young audience.

There are several collections of short stories, and I have enjoyed all of them. Check amazon and you can get many of them used for nearly nothing.

Looks like I need to pick up a copy of The Dispossessed then. Same with the short story collections - they're usually the first thing I grab at book sales anyway, both single author collections and edited anthologies. Short stories own.

coaxmetal
Oct 21, 2010

 


I'm a fan of MZB's Darkover books, been thinking about revisiting some lately. I don't think I ever read all of them, but the later ones weren't really written by her anyway since she was dying


As far as Le Guin goes, I think i've only read the Earthsea books, which I enjoyed a lot, but that was a while ago.

Antillese
Feb 16, 2006



So Consider Phlebas and Use of Weapons are a coin toss for babby's first Culture picture book? I haven't read any of them and I'm pretty curious about them.

If you like hard sci-fi I too must highly recommend Alastair Reynolds' books. Revelation Space, Chasm City, Redemption Ark and Absolution Gap in that order. I really enjoyed them. He does a pretty good job of implicating how high technology has changed humanity and human culture without making the story just about the technology.

One of my favorite bits is in Redemption Ark where two factions are having a very protracted war between two interstellar ships traveling at relativistic speeds. One of the factions develop acausal weapons (devices that violate cause-and-effect). The narrative implies that timelines just kind of jump around to "fix" the causality problems this technology creates and only the people involved with the experiments know something went wrong. And the main characters are all ignorant of these effects and cancel the research because it's clearly not working right and just not producing results.

Absolution Gap is actually a weak ending in my opinion, but that's just like my opinion man.

Wilhelm_Scream.wav
Oct 8, 2004
SHIP THE GOD DAMN YOSTOP


i hate poo poo with swords i dont know why

i used to like all that stuff but now it's all just so loving samey i have no desire whatsoever

i havent read sci fi in years, should i snag dune from the library?

coaxmetal
Oct 21, 2010

 


CoupleBeersNoBeers posted:

i hate poo poo with swords i dont know why

i used to like all that stuff but now it's all just so loving samey i have no desire whatsoever

i havent read sci fi in years, should i snag dune from the library?

Dune is really good. So yea. Also poo poo with swords is usually Fantasy, which is usually escapist fiction (I enjoy it) which good scifi (such as Dune) is speculative.


Anyway yes, try dune, or Asimov's The Gods Themselves, or something.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006


Inverse Icarus posted:

really?

i think it's pretty alright. i mean it's dumb as hell that the white supremacist convict is also a chef, but whatever.

*noah whyle is surprised by an alien and trapped under its powerful arms*

alien: whoa ho ho! look who pinned the protagonist!!

noah: *struggles for life*

alien: heh, no really hows my breath? check it out i could probably eat ur head!

noah: *glances at shotgun in desperation*

alien: oooooo. well i'll just wait till you get that.

*noah regains the shotgun and shoots the alien in teh leg*

alien: goddamn there goes one of my 10 or so legs. im just gonna let you keep doing whatever and not kill you or run away

*noah shoots other leg*

alien: well drat, i give up. take me to ur leader.

Thats an irl scene from the show. They needed to capture an alien as a plot point and instead of sending the racist hunter guy who knows how to track and trap them or sending out a group to capture one (risking valuable and scarce human lives in the process) they let one jump noah whiled in a sewer and then just give up.


The aliens are just kinda lazy too b/c they put these kids in this mind control devices but when the kids get taken by humans they dont bother to track them and just send in a nuke.

Its supposed to be a tale of humanity's struggle against an overwhelming alien force, but so far there really aint much struggle.

Also there was a litterally 5 minute ad for some skateboard thing in the first ep.

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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006


buy dune, library the foundation series, buy the biggest consolidated collection of asimov short stories you can find. I also liked some of larry niven's short stories, but he was a litte more out there. library starship troopers because its full of engineer porn.

idk theres probably others i cant think of right now

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