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After the thread was chatting it up I got distracted from Doom wads and got Quake running again to check out Dwell and Arcane Dimensions. It was a rough start to adjust to Quake's slower more deliberate gameplay vs Doom's more frantic running and gunning, but things are starting to click into place again. I have fond memories of playing OG Quake with White Zombie's Astro Creep 2000 in the CD drive, the first 4 or 5 tracks/levels line up really well. Dwell E1 skybox  Even with lower enemy counts compared to Doom maps, sometimes poo poo gets wild  I wish every boomshoot had a QoL messaging system 
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szary posted:I will play Phantom Fury and like it, and then I'll post in this thread to defend its honor. Just start editing your 2 hour long youtube video about how it was an under appreciated gem. Its not like you need more footage than was in the trailers, nobody else will ever play it to call you out.
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Mar 29, 2024 09:32
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Not an issue because it’s not gonna come out Bet you it does and when it does you gotta play it and post about it 
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Mar 29, 2024 10:18
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Phantom Fury will come out, albeit in a state that could be politely described as "troubled". I would love to be proven both wrong and stupid on the latter part of that sentence.
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Mar 29, 2024 10:20
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I got this game https://store.steampowered.com/app/1435970/Anomalous/ from a bundle in Fanatical.com Anyone can tell me how is it?
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Mar 29, 2024 10:41
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“Early access should last until the end of 2023”
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Mar 29, 2024 10:54
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Quantum of Phallus posted:“Early access should last until the end of 2023” Game developers and making inaccurate date estimations about game production, name a more iconic duo! (but at least they are on 0.9 version so it should be finished soonish)
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Mar 29, 2024 11:02
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ive played daikatana several times and i have no desire to play phantom fury like the appeal of old school shooters is the very basic gameplay feeling good and providing a good moment to moment experience (obviously something made up of tons of facets like map/sound/asset design) but theres been this wave of 'retro' shooters that just feel like poo poo. like i dont care how crunchy the pixels are if the entire thing feels like one of those steam store unity asset flips, people arent still playing quake just because it looks dated its very frustrating to see all these games like graven and phantom fury that clearly have so much love put into the art and music side of things, only to be let down by the fact seemingly nobody cared how it plays. also heres my verdict on wrath: its the modern day Hexen - massive, poorly signposted levels - lack of ammo means youre gonna be meleeing half the fuckin time, at least on Hard - seen 70% of the enemy roster in the first 25 minutes - awesome van-art style
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Mar 29, 2024 13:50
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juggalo baby coffin posted:
I don't agree with these two points, while the levels were massive and I rarely got lost or confused, relative at least to the size of the levels, so it wasn't that bad. And I completed the game with usually having my ammo levels at 70% without using the blade (except for the zombies).
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Mar 29, 2024 13:55
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juggalo baby coffin posted:also heres my verdict on wrath: its the modern day Hexen Ouch At least it doesn’t have the fuckin shield centaurs.
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Turin Turambar posted:I don't agree with these two points, while the levels were massive and I rarely got lost or confused, relative at least to the size of the levels, so it wasn't that bad. And I completed the game with usually having my ammo levels at 70% without using the blade (except for the zombies). I actively avoided using the melee weapon because I'd heard it was OP, and while ammo was frequently tight, I almost always had something to shoot at any given moment (on Hard as well). On the other hand, there were multiple levels (particularly in Acts 2 & 3) where I spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out where the gently caress I had to go next.
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Mar 29, 2024 16:49
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I will play Phantom Fury if it is good, otherwise I will not. Almost feels like people itt are hoping it's bad, kinda offputting.
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Mar 29, 2024 17:21
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Mordja posted:I will play Phantom Fury if it is good, otherwise I will not. Almost feels like people itt are hoping it's bad, kinda offputting. The demo was pretty bad which is why I think people are posting so negatively. This post is spot on: juggalo baby coffin posted:ive played daikatana several times and i have no desire to play phantom fury Getting the movement and shooting down should be the first thing any of these devs does and it looks like that was the last thing Phantom Fury's development focused on.
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Mar 29, 2024 17:38
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Not really hoping we're just jaded by the devs' recent output and the demo for it being complete trash. ^^ I feel like Boltgun suffered from this quite a bit too, all looks and not really any substance... christ the level design is so bad in that game.
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Mar 29, 2024 17:42
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Sure, but they delayed the game specifically to work on those aspects and from what they've shown, it's considerably improved, even if I doubt the shooting will be the best of the best. But then again, neither was Half Life's, probably their biggest inspiration. My sticking point now will be whether the later levels are janky messes or not. E: I played the demo too and thought it was trash, but I'd still rather hope that something improves than the alternative, and if i hasn't, I'll just shrug and move on. Mordja fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Mar 29, 2024 |
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Mar 29, 2024 17:44
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I reached Act 3 of Wrath, played one level and just...kinda dropped it. Bummer. Might go back and wrap it up just so I can tick it off the list, but doubt I will revisit it.
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Mar 29, 2024 17:59
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I actively avoided using the melee weapon because I'd heard it was OP, and while ammo was frequently tight, I almost always had something to shoot at any given moment (on Hard as well). Well, I will add something my Wrath comments: I wish for a game with unlimited max health/armor/ammo count, because I backtracked SO MUCH in Wrath to take ammo/health/armor pickups (that I had previously skipped because I was full the moment I saw them first). Hell, at some point I was tempted to see if I could set a variable in the console to do it, given it's the Quake engine.
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Mordja posted:Sure, but they delayed the game specifically to work on those aspects and from what they've shown, it's considerably improved, even if I doubt the shooting will be the best of the best. But then again, neither was Half Life's, probably their biggest inspiration. My sticking point now will be whether the later levels are janky messes or not. There was a video I caught on YT a week or so ago of someone playing through an updated build of Phantom Fury and they seemed to think it had improved since the demo release? I never played the demo though so I couldn't compare. I thought it looked interesting enough but will wait for reviews as I normally do. Also seconding a 2.5d fps-rpg yes please - there's a GzDoom mod called Abysm which is kind of RPGish, I've only played Abysm 2 and I loved a lot of the level design on that, some biiig environments https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=69682
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Mar 29, 2024 18:22
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zthssUIFG6c Doom on a satellite. Pretty cool.
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Fil5000 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zthssUIFG6c It's only a matter of time before someone plays Doom on Phobos.
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Mar 29, 2024 19:33
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Dramicus posted:It's only a matter of time before someone plays Doom on Phobos. Please don't!
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Fil5000 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zthssUIFG6c This is a really cool video! I thought the point made at the end was pretty funny. The more they screenshots they want to take of the game with a photo of earth, the closer the drag it back down to the atmosphere.
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Mar 29, 2024 19:56
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Turin Turambar posted:I got this game devilated is the other one on my wishlist that's a similar situation, although that's been slower in development and I think anomalous is technically content complete, just not polished or feature complete yet (i think the dev intends to adjust some of chapters 1 and 2 now that they've finished chapter 3, much like viscerafest's status right now)
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Phantom Fury is just doing the Doom 2016 trick. Terrible first impressions, a demo that misrepresents it, and no faith in the developers. Then it comes out and opinion is going to 180.
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Mar 29, 2024 21:54
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Flubby posted:Phantom Fury is just doing the Doom 2016 trick. Terrible first impressions, a demo that misrepresents it, and no faith in the developers. Then it comes out and opinion is going to 180. That would rule tbh
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Mar 29, 2024 22:46
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Speaking of, where's QVAKE 2024?
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Flubby posted:Phantom Fury is just doing the Doom 2016 trick. Terrible first impressions, a demo that misrepresents it, and no faith in the developers. Then it comes out and opinion is going to 180. Quantum of Phallus posted:That would rule tbh Yeah, I remember when DOOM 2016 came out and this happened. It started off as a slow... "Wait a minute everyone...this...is actually pretty good??" and then just exploded. Cool times.
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People forget that it looked like poo poo until Nvidia released proper gameplay of it to promote Vulkan and that's what turned it around pre-release. The updated Phantom Fury trailer still looks like the same dogshit from the demo. Like up until this point we had gotten a really lame looking E3 trailer and a poorly received multiplayer demo and then Nvidia puts out a better marketing video than anything Bethesda did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anrvBD4aTGY
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people probably shouldn't try to mindgame themselves into it somehow being the best game ever before it's even out just due to brand recognition and flying in the face of literally every sign pointing elsewhere. that's not really healthy
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Goldeneye's multiplayer, and I believe a few more features, ended up getting famously added in within the last 6 months. I don't know if that's going to be Phantom Fury's deal (not multiplayer, but a significant upgrade or work done on the game itself last minute), but hey, it's maybe possible?
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When Phantom Fury comes out and is the greatest FPS of the last three years, the line of naysayers who will be forced to eat their hat will disappear over the horizon and I will tirelessly work to ensure each and every one eats their hat
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UnknownMercenary posted:People forget that it looked like poo poo until Nvidia released proper gameplay of it to promote Vulkan and that's what turned it around pre-release. I remember they showed Doom 2016 with E3 gameplay, so it was played with a controller and really slow. It had the gore, but the gameplay seemed almost like it was going at Doom 3 pace again. It was such a strange way to market that game, I didn't have high hopes for it til this nvidia video
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Bethesda's marketing department is a torrid, unpredictable, cocaine-vacuuming beast that embodies chaos.
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The Kins posted:Bethesda's marketing department is a torrid, unpredictable, cocaine-vacuuming beast that embodies chaos. You'd think that would make them better at making action game trailers 
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I correctly predicted the game would rule, so I've got that going for me. Just based on reading into stuff devs said and using my imagination on what little we had seen of the SP etc, and having liked every game id had released at that point (even Rage was solid). And I do remember trying to suggest these things to the hordes of kooky trolls calling it Retard 4 or whatever, wild stuff. Not to say anyone is wrong for thinking it looked bad, it's just it wasn't the only way to look at it, I thought it was gonna rule. People were pretty unruly in the early thread at the time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqDe7I5T98 e: Quake Dwell serving up some FPS fanservice: https://i.imgur.com/Md69oCW.mp4 Takes No Damage fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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UnknownMercenary posted:People forget that it looked like poo poo until Nvidia released proper gameplay of it to promote Vulkan and that's what turned it around pre-release. Looking at it again, that motion blur is awful. Some of it might be video compression but I'm confident that most of that mess is intentional. No idea why people like that.
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They made a point with Doom Eternal of showing off Kb+M after only showing controller play, I think after like a week solid of it at that years E3. Like literally hopped on stage at an Nvidia event with the footage saying "OK here's kb and mouse for you sickos" Which showed SOMEONE was awake at the time at least (And then they left things weird with Mick Gordon :/ )
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Takes No Damage posted:Quake Dwell serving up some FPS fanservice: lol some time later, shub-niggurath, cthon and a vore sit around a boardroom table discussing the latest internal audit report, which has controversially recommended that staff come into the workplace on a regular basis to prevent asset theft rather than just teleporting in from home when an alarm goes off Convex fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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Shoehead posted:They made a point with Doom Eternal of showing off Kb+M after only showing controller play, I think after like a week solid of it at that years E3. Like literally hopped on stage at an Nvidia event with the footage saying "OK here's kb and mouse for you sickos" Which showed SOMEONE was awake at the time at least I've heard some people say it plays better on controller (granted these are peeps in the PS5 thread etc), and I myself have only played Eternal on controller. Controller stuff is good. But I get that fast frantic videos get you cats pumped up.
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