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It's so nice that videos of Doom on YouTube can now look closer to what it looks like when I'm playing it on my computer. For example! I may not use Smooth Doom or whatever mod it is that's making their weapon animations look so good, nor the music mod they're using, but this video is otherwise pretty close.
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Even while using Smooth Doom, I've never need able to get used to playing without the 35 fps cap turned on. For some reason it's really disorienting and I can barely aim. It's like the extra frames are tricking my brain into thinking that the game is running slower than it really is.
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:Even while using Smooth Doom, I've never need able to get used to playing without the 35 fps cap turned on. For some reason it's really disorienting and I can barely aim. It's like the extra frames are tricking my brain into thinking that the game is running slower than it really is. I know that playing Doom with the FPS uncapped (i.e., at 900 FPS) results in some pretty hilarious warping on all the straight lines.
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Oct 31, 2014 01:18
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laserghost posted:There was one Russian FPS which used voxels heavily, ZAR (or Zone of Artificial Resources) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQP9cm5Us8k. I used to play the 3-level demo quite a lot, and apparently the game had quite a following in it's motherland, with LAN tournaments scene etc.
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:Even while using Smooth Doom, I've never need able to get used to playing without the 35 fps cap turned on. For some reason it's really disorienting and I can barely aim. It's like the extra frames are tricking my brain into thinking that the game is running slower than it really is. This actually isn't far from the truth. Nothing runs slower, but nothing runs faster either. This includes input. All input is still created at the same rate, and still creates tics the same way. Nothing else in the playsim has any effect either (the playsim is run by available input, so that's all still run at 35Hz), so what you get is visual interpolation, but the game isn't actually doing anything during that time. I can very easily see that as visually tricking someone into thinking things are running slower. GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:I know that playing Doom with the FPS uncapped (i.e., at 900 FPS) results in some pretty hilarious warping on all the straight lines. That sounds like vsync distortion, which you get when when you freeze the drawing of 500-1000 odd frames into a 60Hz display. Apparently at about 2000 frames the scanlines themselves vanish. Rocket Pan fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Oct 31, 2014 |
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Oct 31, 2014 03:32
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Nokiaman posted:With this guide it's fairly bearable. I would love a new engine for Blood. I think the XL Engine guy was planning to work on that, but after Dark Forces and Daggerfall are finished, i.e. never.
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Oct 31, 2014 05:33
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I think the ZDoom guy was talking about adding Blood support, but that'd be a while off yet.
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^^^Whoops, beaten The ZDoom guy of all people has been looking to incorporate Blood into ZDoom as well. Apparently Blood's version of the BUILD engine is just similar enough to the Doom engine to make it feasible or something, I don't know. 
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NuclearPotato posted:Apparently Blood's version of the BUILD engine is just similar enough to the Doom engine to make it feasible or something, I don't know. Not really what he said. randi posted:I wouldn't go that far ["ZBlood"] at this time, but Blood is probably the Build game most suited for support by ZDoom. If I just add moving walls/sectors and overlapping sectors, everything else could probably be approximated closely enough. And I'd say the moving sectors stuff is probably already halfway there thanks to the current state of polyobjects. ZDoom already features a ton of stuff missing from Doom, such as portals, voxels, decals, etc. As for whether Blood is the easiest Build game to approximate in ZDoom, I don't know. When Randy Heit made a Duke 3D port, it was in the form of ZDuke -- something separate from ZDoom, even if it reused most of the input/output codebase.
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For those interested, I just made an update to DemonSteele. I tried to get a lot of the criticisms/suggestions people made (faster sword, nerfed Revenants, sounds indicating when something's died, cvar for autoswitching weapons, enemy gibs blocking teleporters, etc), but if there's any issues I've forgotten about or you'd like to make known, please don't hesitate to tell me. Hope you guys enjoy.
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Oct 31, 2014 11:55
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The Unreal series is 70% off on GOG today.
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Shadow Hog posted:I thought the Build Engine didn't support voxels until Blood or Shadow Warrior. Sorry, I totally meant Shadow Warrior.  Shadow Hog posted:It's so nice that videos of Doom on YouTube can now look closer to what it looks like when I'm playing it on my computer. For example! I may not use Smooth Doom or whatever mod it is that's making their weapon animations look so good, nor the music mod they're using, but this video is otherwise pretty close. That is GLORIOUS  about drat time Google.
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Rocket Pan posted:That sounds like vsync distortion, which you get when when you freeze the drawing of 500-1000 odd frames into a 60Hz display. Apparently at about 2000 frames the scanlines themselves vanish. That's one thing, but all graphics to that if they're not synced to vertical refresh. The Doom engine is kinda weird, though. If you increase the resolution above a certain point, straight lines in geometry will distort wildly as they move from horizontal to vertical on-screen, ie. when the player rotates. I wouldn't be surprised if it does weird things at high framerates, too. Most source ports fix these issues, though.
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Doesn't the Quake 3 engine have some kind of physics weirdness that makes certain jumps only possible at certain framerates?
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haveblue posted:Doesn't the Quake 3 engine have some kind of physics weirdness that makes certain jumps only possible at certain framerates? Yeah I remember that. I think 100FPS players had an advantage/disadvantage, I can't remember which. I vaguely recall Doom 3's multiplayer having the same issue.
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TerminusEst13 posted:For those interested, I just made an update to DemonSteele. This is magical. MAGICAL. No other words can describe my first impression on how fun yet silly this is.  If anyone has any WAD suggestions hit me, otherwise im playing Ur with this. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/65688-unholy-realms-public-beta-release-thread-final-version-uploaded/ Also bonus points for reminding me of Blood with all the head kicking.  E: Somehow you ended up making a shotgun equally, if not MORE satisfying then Doom 2's Shotgun. For that, you get my thanks. 
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Oct 31, 2014 21:51
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haveblue posted:Doesn't the Quake 3 engine have some kind of physics weirdness that makes certain jumps only possible at certain framerates? Yup. My friend set a framerate limit on Enemy Territory for this reason.
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How does one edit Wolfenstein 3D's graphics and enemy/weapon data? Level design is straightforward enough, but I'm not having any luck with the rest and Google isn't helping.
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Thyrork posted:This is magical. MAGICAL. No other words can describe my first impression on how fun yet silly this is. Ah-hah, thank you. Yeah, I love the shotgun to death, it's so much fun to use. As for wad suggestions, I ran through Scythe 2 so many times while testing this, it's practically designed around it. If you want more slaughtery maps, New Gothic Movement is absolutely brutal and will throw you into the blender time and time again. If you want more slow-paced and atmospheric maps, I simply can't suggest Dissolution enough.
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GUI posted:How does one edit Wolfenstein 3D's graphics and enemy/weapon data? Level design is straightforward enough, but I'm not having any luck with the rest and Google isn't helping. Enemy and weapon behavior? ECWolf uses plaintext DECORATE definitions just like ZDoom. Any other source port? It's to the source code with you.
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TerminusEst13 posted:Ah-hah, thank you. Yeah, I love the shotgun to death, it's so much fun to use. Some more usable feedback, might i suggest you turn down the "Use" clips, say by a 1/3rd. E: See how it sounds since in fairness its not that loud, but hearing her grunt is as annoying as listening to doom guy grunt so having that softer might be an idea. Of course, i cant help but feel thats the joke, but hey. 
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This was probably already mentioned, but I highly recommend The Fantastic Love Adventure of Lt. Feel Good for Doom 2. It's really more of an exploration map, so you might as well hit IDDQD and IDFA (but not IDKFA, because finding the keys is half of the fun). I don't know how this could possibly be someone's very first map, but it's still very nice. VVVVV - Even so, I'm very impressed with what the Doom community has produced over the last year. The Cacowards for this year should be very interesting. We even have a version of Freedoom that mostly works as an IWAD replacement, assuming that you don't intend to actually play with the included (buggy) maps. lurker1981 fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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lurker1981 posted:I don't know how this could possibly be someone's very first map, but it's still very nice. Well, it's not really the very first: Toxie Rocks posted:Thanks for all the superlatives. I should clarify that this is my first completed level. There are other maps that I've started and scrapped or are still in production. So, yeah, I have more mapping experience than the average newbie, but this is the first time my work is being seen outside of some close friends.
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This is a neat idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wleaAhzxCY
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Which bloom thing is that
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straight jerkers posted:Which bloom thing is that Metroid for Doom.  I haven't tried it out yet, but it's next on my list.
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Someone's made a demake of Metroid Prime?
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Starhawk64 posted:Someone's made a demake of Metroid Prime? They did back in 1996, it's called Powerslave.
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lurker1981 posted:Metroid for Doom.
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Starhawk64 posted:Someone's made a demake of Metroid Prime? Sort of yes, sort of no. I made Dreadnought as just a little fan thing because I'm a giant Metroid nerd (in case the avatar didn't give it away), sort of a mash-up of Super's speed, Prime's weapons, and traditional Doom gameplay. But then there were a few people planning on doing Prime-style maps for it, which is good since I'm possibly the shittiest mapper in existence. But then one had an HDD failure and the other four fell off the face of the Earth so uhhhhhhhhhhhh straight jerkers posted:Which bloom thing is that https://code.google.com/p/qeffects-gl/ Pretty okay if you have a whole bunch of darker sprites and maps, since it makes for some pretty lighting effects in maps that can help set the mood. When you start getting brighter sprites and/or maps with brighter lighting, though, then everything turns terrible because suddenly your hand is bloom and the dirt is bloom and that looks like utter poo poo.
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haveblue posted:Doesn't the Quake 3 engine have some kind of physics weirdness that makes certain jumps only possible at certain framerates? IIRC the magic framerates are 125FPS and 333FPS. Due to the way jumping is calculated in Quake 3, the peak of your jump will be ever so slightly higher at those framerates.
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KozmoNaut posted:IIRC the magic framerates are 125FPS and 333FPS. Due to the way jumping is calculated in Quake 3, the peak of your jump will be ever so slightly higher at those framerates. Why is any of this stuff client-side
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It doesn't have to be, but the default settings make it client side! (it also affects Half-Life 1, COD, and all other Quake sourced engines) edit: Here's an old website explaining exactly what's happening Karasu Tengu fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Nov 2, 2014 |
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AugmentedVision posted:Why is any of this stuff client-side
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So, years ago, I could have sworn I played Jedi Outcast, but going through it now, I doubt that's the case. I know I got through JK1, and loved every single second of it, post-lightsaber discovery, but I'm drawing a complete blank on all the stuff I'm playing through now in JK2. I'm almost done the mining level, please tell me I get my lightsaber soon? That alone makes these games worth it.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:So, years ago, I could have sworn I played Jedi Outcast, but going through it now, I doubt that's the case. I know I got through JK1, and loved every single second of it, post-lightsaber discovery, but I'm drawing a complete blank on all the stuff I'm playing through now in JK2. You should get your lightsaber after the mining levels.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:You should get your lightsaber after the mining levels.  It's me, I am the most stoked. One thing I don't understand is, if I'm playing as Kyle Katarn, just like JK1, where did my saber and force powers go between games?
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At the end of JK1 in the good ending he sacrifices his force powers to the Valley of the Jedi because he was too close to falling to the Dark Side, and he gives his saber to Luke for safekeeping. Which, JK2 basically explains this as soon as you complete the mining area anyway.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:You should get your lightsaber after the mining levels. Also take note that the level after you get your saber back (Nar Shaddar) is awful and not representative of the rest of the game. Seriously, just stick on God mode for that one level or something as it's the worst.
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Convex posted:Also take note that the level after you get your saber back (Nar Shaddar) is awful and not representative of the rest of the game. Seriously, just stick on God mode for that one level or something as it's the worst. God yes. The loving bug dudes with the sniper rifles 
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