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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 10:02 |
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Once upon a time this was my first FATAL posting, then it became spillover contents, and now it is an anachronism. Rejoice!
Syrg Sapphire fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2012 around 12:05 |
| # ? Jun 26, 2011 10:04 |
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The second-printing info is interesting (why does it have one??) but otherwise this seminal review already goes through the terrible stuff.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 13:30 |
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Syrgg this is going to be worst than that energy drink you drank isn't it. Anyway to contribute to the thread I have the rebuttal to the review that Gul Banana posted. Also, Syrgg would you mind me posting updates in regards to FATAL or would you want to take care of that yourself entirely because I found the character builder for FATAL.  http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/FATALReviewRebuttal Wow this guy is nuts. He thinks that an ethical moral system is something that you think is bad. quote:In fact, I've included numerous things with which I diagree in FATAL, such as gods, an ethical-moral system, etc. Jason probably knows that his conclusions are faulty, but is apparently willing to be at fault. I am not. quote:I personally think that surprise sex and murder come up, whether behind closed doors or out in the open, in at least 90% of gaming groups. FATAL just makes it so you see exactly how bad it actually is by trying not to hide it or pretend it didn't happen. Instead on those pages you'll find information supported by references on how often it happened and what happened to the criminal. Now does this mean anybody who plays FATAL supports it? No, it simply shows that most people try to sweep it under the rug. We know it is, unfortunately, a day-to-day occurence. MadScientistWorking fucked around with this message at Jun 26, 2011 around 15:26 |
| # ? Jun 26, 2011 15:01 |
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MadScientistWorking posted:His friend thinks that surprise sex comes up 90% of the time in RPG games. Whaaaaaaaat? Maybe in 90% of games by creepy man-children, it does. Or in those games that people use as a thin excuse for a swingers party (like the one that came up in the worst-experiences thread where the DM (a woman) demanded that all the men whip out and measure their own johnsons for their stat sheets). Oh wait, he's saying in 90% of gaming groups. So he's suggesting that almost all gaming groups have at least one creeper in them who is secretly thinking about raping the paladin to see if she falls. And it would be better for everyone else if they would let him roleplay that "unfortunate day to day occurrence" so everyone can learn and grow from it?
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 15:35 |
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Where can you find a copy of this game?
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 19:06 |
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I did find this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TLl...player_embedded Its The Fatal Theme song Its kind of hard to make out the growled lyric through the poor audio quality. FATAL is greatest Role-Playing Game that there could ever be Fantasy Adventure to Adult Lechery Fatal is the only game that I'm about to read Fantasy Adventure to Adult Lechery FATAL is greatest Role-Playing Game that I have ever seen Fantasy Adventure to Adult Lechery FATAL is only game that lets you be obscene Fantasy Adventure to Adult Lechery
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 19:16 |
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Fire posted:Where can you find a copy of this game? If you want to read along (do not do this it is miserable), the long-vanished first printing has been reuploaded here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J6FM6TYC http://www.mediafire.com/?03o3n4ftb898o0q
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 19:35 |
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Fire posted:I did find this: The song best put as the cookie monster tripping over a drumkit and falling the stairs all the way to the bottom, with it.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 19:42 |
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I'm just here for the Syrg Sapphire suicide watch. You can do it! 899 pages to go!
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 19:48 |
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I'll volunteer to mirror/format completed reviews on a blog for posterity. I think I'll pick something out of my grab bag and review it, too...I just don't know what yet. Maybe Panty Explosion!, maybe Furry Pirates, maybe something else. Who knows?
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 19:56 |
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Gau posted:I'll volunteer to mirror/format completed reviews on a blog for posterity. I think I'll pick something out of my grab bag and review it, too...I just don't know what yet. I'd be all for an in-depth review of Panty Explosion, because I've heard from otherwise trustworthy people that it's actually not a completely terrible game and yet for some reason I am unwilling to verify this for myself.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 19:57 |
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Xand_Man posted:I'm just here for the Syrg Sapphire suicide watch.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 20:25 |
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You poor bastard, Syrg. I like to joke about how I'm that guy who always opens the tome of eldtritch lore in the Call of Cthulhu game and starts reading, only with RPGs instead, but FATAL is the only time that really felt like it was true.Gau posted:I'll volunteer to mirror/format completed reviews on a blog for posterity. I think I'll pick something out of my grab bag and review it, too...I just don't know what yet. The World of Synnibarr, First AND Second Editions The World of Synnibar: The Ultimate Adventurer's Guide SenZar: Role Playing For The Next Millennium Creeping Death: Campaign Builder Number One (for SenZar) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles & Other Strangeness, Revised Edition Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles & Other Strangeness, Revised Edition, Suggested for ages 12 and older (I am not sure how these are different) Transdimensional Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Compatible with Heroes Unlimited, Beyond the Supernatural, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!) And, some games which are more debatably terrible, but should be entertaining to look at anyway: Macho Women With Guns More Excuses To Kill Things for Macho Women With Guns Human Occupied Landfill Amber Diceless Role-Playing Shadow Knight: Supplemental Rules & Background for Amber Diceless Role-Playing Unfortunately I couldn't find Space Ninja XDO Cybercrisis, which I bought for like $5 based entirely on the name. I feel I got my money's worth there. I'll be starting with Synnibarr. Tune in tomorrow for such details as, courtesy of randomly chosen parts of the back of the book: The back of The World of Synnibarr posted:
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 20:25 |
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Why would you even have a class based system for a multi-genre game? That is the sort of thing point buy systems were made for.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 20:38 |
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Multi-Genre? Oh no, this thing is set on the titular World of Synnibarr, and it's only got one genre: Bonkers.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 20:46 |
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MadScientistWorking posted:FATAL RPG Rebuttal My favorite lines: Reviewer: So, basically, FATAL is the date surprise sex RPG. Author of FATAL: Another faulty conclusion drawn by Darren. Where is dating included?
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 20:50 |
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Thuryl posted:I'd be all for an in-depth review of Panty Explosion, because I've heard from otherwise trustworthy people that it's actually not a completely terrible game and yet for some reason I am unwilling to verify this for myself. Skimmed it once some years ago, its nowhere as terrible as the title and concept would have you think, but mechanically IIRC, its just rock-paper-scissors with stats, theres little memorably messed up stuff in it. Other than probably the players of course. It IS a game about playing a psychic japanese schoolgirl in some kind of battle royale.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 21:03 |
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Oh man, I just realized that this will finally be the thread where I make a foolish pyrrhic stand defending the Maid RPG.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 21:37 |
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Gul Banana posted:The second-printing info is interesting (why does it have one??) but otherwise this seminal review already goes through the terrible stuff. True, but it's also lost a lot of images over the years and does indeed skim in places. I don't get that liberty since I've got two whole books here with the threat of more. New writeup in an hour or two.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 21:44 |
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Doc Hawkins posted:Oh man, I just realized that this will finally be the thread where I make a foolish pyrrhic stand defending the Maid RPG. I thought only therpgsite threw a fit over it? Afaik it sold ok for an indie title and I thougt the internet was just 'shrug' in general since its so niche. I mean, id rather play maid than most of the games listed here.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 21:51 |
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Maid is a game where the players play superpowered maids who constantly vie for the affections of their Master, played by the GM. Every anime fetish archetype is present and accounted for. One of the character types is called "Lolita.". There are optional seduction rules. There are optional rules for getting powers from costume changes, and losing powers from losing parts of your maid uniform. What I'm saying is, it can take a bit of doing to convince people the game isn't a super-creepy poo poo-show. In fact, after writing that paragraph, even I have my doubts!
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 22:02 |
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Please don't get banned Doc. 
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 22:07 |
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Doc Hawkins posted:Maid is a game where the players play superpowered maids who constantly vie for the affections of their Master, played by the GM. Every anime fetish archetype is present and accounted for. One of the character types is called "Lolita.". There are optional seduction rules. There are optional rules for getting powers from costume changes, and losing powers from losing parts of your maid uniform. I was not aware of those rules. *The more you know!*
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 22:08 |
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veekie posted:Skimmed it once some years ago, its nowhere as terrible as the title and concept would have you think, but mechanically IIRC, its just rock-paper-scissors with stats, theres little memorably messed up stuff in it. Classroom Deathmatch was the expansion I believe.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 22:13 |
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I own Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai the Roleplaying Game, is that an obscure enough rpg?
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 22:43 |
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Pvt.Scott posted:I own Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai the Roleplaying Game, is that an obscure enough rpg? Is it terrible? (The answer is yes either way.)
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 22:47 |
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Why do you hate yourself? And more importantly, if you hate yourself so badly why are you inflicting it on us? Yes I'm a hypocrite.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 22:48 |
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Pvt.Scott posted:I own Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai the Roleplaying Game, is that an obscure enough rpg? Well I drat well wanna hear about it, so sure.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 22:49 |
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Isn't Ghost Dog 2-player only?
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 22:53 |
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Doc Hawkins posted:Isn't Ghost Dog 2-player only? It's been years since I've cracked the book, but yeah, the game is supposed to be one player and one GM. There's some stuff for running more players in the back, I think. Hmm, I might have to dig Ghost Dog out and give it a thorough read through for the sake of science and the internet. Pvt.Scott fucked around with this message at Jun 26, 2011 around 23:02 |
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You mad bastard. You mad, glorious bastard. I'm gonna have to dig up something to put in this thread. I already have an idea.  Behold, the book where oWerewolf's worst writers went to die after White Wolf remade its World of Darkness line. While nWerewolf is less eco-terrorist, furry, mechanically broken, and/or generally insane than its older cousin, my theory is that this is solely because they rounded all the terrible writers up and had them work on this book. This book has one place and one place only at the table of someone who plays World of Darkness: to show to new players, and see how they react. If they do anything but say "This is terrible and I hate you for making me read this," throw them out on their rear end and never talk to them again. I had a mini-review of the absolute worst parts of the book in the now-closed second WoD thread, but I finally have an excuse to go through bit by bit and tear this thing apart from the mechanical level.
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 23:03 |
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I have a few obscure games I've acquired over the year, I can go through my collection after I clean up my After Sundown "review".
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| # ? Jun 26, 2011 23:14 |
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I'd like to see a review of changing breeds just to see if it really is as bad as everyone says - usually someone just posts that one image and everyone just goes 'yeah, this is trash.' and that's it.
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| # ? Jun 27, 2011 00:24 |
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I seem to remember Human Occupied Landfill being absolutely hilarious.
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| # ? Jun 27, 2011 01:18 |
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Colgrim posted:I seem to remember Human Occupied Landfill being absolutely hilarious. It and its expansion BUTTery wHOLEsomeness are amazing.
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| # ? Jun 27, 2011 01:24 |
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Colgrim posted:I seem to remember Human Occupied Landfill being absolutely hilarious. The authors of HOL succeeded beyond all expectations in their goal of producing an excellent parody of terrible games.
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| # ? Jun 27, 2011 01:49 |
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FATAL, Part 1: The Introduction No, really. There's enough material to mine in the introduction alone in this book. FATAL stands for "Fantasy Adventure to Adult Lechery", and was later renamed "From Another Time, Another Land" in the more-commonly-distributed (and heavily censored) second edition. (I'm gonna distinguish the two by the names "Adult Lechery" and "Another Land" editions from here on out.) To this day, it is probably the king of RPG hubris. In case that image up there breaks, I want to point out that on PAGE ONE it claims to be "The most difficult, detailed, realistic, and historically/mythically accurate role-playing game available." This claim is horseshit in all but one word, and I think anyone who has ever heard of it knows which one it is*. Right out the gate, we undermine "historically accurate" in the first paragraph on page 2 (of 901 pages): FATAL posted:Welcome to a fantasy medieval role-playing game that focuses on realism and detail whenever possible without sacrificing fun. Despite the focus on realism, several tenets of fantasy are assumed. In the world of this game, magic exists as well as spellcasters such as mages, witches, and druids. Second, fantastic creatures roam the world, including kobolds and dragons, among others. Finally, hundreds of deities exist, and moreover these gods are concerned with their worshippers, the state of the world, and their own deific interests. Aside from these basic assumptions of fantasy, realism is sought in every other respect and applied to these fantastic tenets as well as the gaming world and role-playing system.** So keep this claim in mind, because I'm sure as poo poo going to: the only things they changed from real history for fun's sake were "magic is real, so are fantasy creatures, and a fuckton of gods too". Everything else is realistic. This would be altered in the second revision with a huge chunk of pedantic text to clarify so fuckers like me could not point at this and laugh anymore. Too bad I'm reviewing the first edition, motherfuckers! We go from this into what you'd expect out of the intro to any sourcebook- "what is an RPG, what do I need to play, etc." except with what I'm going to start referring to as "the FATAL Touch". Spot what seperates this book from the intro you might find in, say, a D&D book or a GURPS supplement! FATAL posted:A role-playing game is a game in which the participants make decisions as though they were a certain character. The decisions a player may make are incredibly diverse compared to other games. For instance, assume you are an adventuring knight who has just fought his way to the top of a dark tower where you find a comely young maiden chained to the wall. What would you do? Some may choose to simply free the whimpering wench. Others may free her while hoping to win her heart. Instead of seeking affection, some may talk to her to see if they can collect a reward for her safe return. Then again, others may be more interested in negotiating freedom for fellatio. Some may think she has no room to bargain and take their fleshly pleasures by force. Others would rather kill her, dismember her young cadaver, and feast on her warm innards. FATAL is a game that is... well, it's rapey. Really rapey. And I suppose you expect this from a game with a title involving Adult Lechery, but that paragraph remains untouched in Another Land. Either way, we go on to the "what will I need" step, which is standard aside from one curious alteration between 1st/2nd editions... the Adult Lechery edition mentions you might want three splatbooks called "Grimoirium Genitoris (Grimoire of the Gods)", "Grimoirium Monstrum (Grimoire of Monsters)" and "Grimoirium Vita Futura (Grimoire of the Next World)". None of these are mentioned at all in the second printing. A total of 80 pages were added to the second edition, but at a quick glance through the contents*** I don't see anything that could contain monster stats, a god listing, or new world information, and am pretty sure it's just the fact that the drat thing has more rear end-coverage in Another Land making up the higher count. If someone has these, get them to me and I will add to the world's knowledge of FATAL (and my own blood-alcohol level). There's some more fluff and a horrifying sign of things to come: there's no math more complicated than basic algebra in here, it points out, but when dealing with percentages and decimals (a bad sign in an RPG)? Just drop the decimal, don't round up or anything. Also, "percentages are used frequently". Anyhow, you need two types of player: most are just character-toting standard players, but the next is a Game Mast- oh, no, wait. Here comes the FATAL Touch: FATAL posted:One person must assume the role of the Maim Master (hereafter referred to as the MM). While the MM does much more than maim, this is the nickname that has been acquired due to the frequency of injury to characters. The rest is just a bit of basic RPG fluff before a large warning (expanded in Another Land to also point out this book will contain obscenities and other things) that hey, there's some terrible stuff here, but we TOTALLY don't condone it, okay? rear end-coverage again and we're not even to the contents. Thankfully, this is where I bow out for tonight, and we get to another spectacular part of the first printing that Another Land sliced out: the art.  Oh yeah. There's gonna be PLENTY more of that as we go on. Other Second-Printing Notes:
Pages covered in this post: 4 Pages covered total: 4/901 * Well it sure as poo poo isn't "available", genius. ** I want to point out I am copying anything in quote tags directly from the book. The only changes I am making are for spacing purposes, as copying from the PDF inserts wacky-rear end line breaks. This means you can blame the designers for the typos or errors you find. *** If you're shocked that I'm not intimately familiar with these loving books I just want to point out that man, it is MOTHERFUCKING FATAL we are talking about here. I intend to drink away as much of these books as I can after each article. FATAL, Part 2: Attributes 1  That image right there lurks just below the table of contents. Thanks, guys. This is where the printing differences get odd. Despite telling you that the chapters are sorted in order of relevance earlier, the entire flow of character-creation chapters has shifted. Adult Lechery starts with ability scores, then gender/race, and finally body. Another Land is more traditional, going in the order of race/gender (yes, they swapped that order), body, and finally abilities. All this serves to do is basically make it more of a pain in the rear end for me to compare things as I swap between books. We're using the old-style order in these writeups because I hate myself. Ability scores! Probably one of the only things to get MORE miserable between printings. You have 5 attributes, each comprised of the average of 4 sub-attributes, and you only roll for the 20 sub-attributes, using a (4d100/2)-1 formula. (In Another Land, this became (10d100/5)-1. Again - no loving clue why this change was made, as with pretty much any numerical shift between the two.) Assuming you don't have a specific d100 and use the traditional pair of d10s, then 160-400 rolls later* you'll have your five attributes sorted. Let's let the book explain it: FATAL posted:There are five core abilities (Physique, Charisma, Dexterity, Intelligence, and Wisdom), each with four sub-abilities. Just for an extra gently caress you in the "simplest and most sophisticated mechanics in the industry", only two sub-attributes can be altered later: Physical Fitness, and Strength, both through "persistent exercise". A page later it will be mentioned that they actually meant "Persistent Exercise", which is a set of rules at chapter's end. For no reason at all, they tell you in no uncertain terms that with rules as written, you can't alter anything else save by aging (because all characters are assumed to start as "Young Adult" age class... later, we will cover this later), magic, or "something debilitating happening to the character"**. Also you need to make common sense rolls every time you exercise to see if you're loving it up and will get gains from it. (Said roll goes from a challenge factor of 60 in Adult Lechery to 18 in Another Land. What.) Honestly I'm gonna start looking at attributes in more detail one by one as we go, but for now I'll leave you with a spectacular example of the FATAL Touch: FATAL posted:If your character is retarded, consult your Maim Master. Pages covered in this post: 2 Pages covered total: 6/901 * Yes, yes, they recommend using the "FATAL Character Generator" program heavily, but assume, like me for years, or when I first got this PDF, you did not have a laptop around when gaming. Yes, I have aided a group in rolling these BY HAND. ** I suppose if it's one of the only ways to alter your character, it'd explain wanting a "Maim Master". Syrg Sapphire fucked around with this message at Sep 4, 2011 around 09:22 |
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Oh boy, FATAL! For some reason I can't get enough of this game, despite being completely unable to get more than a few pages through the book. Tried rolling a character once; got through 4, maybe 5 sub-abilities before the headache set in. So, good luck; I look forward to some in-depth insanity. Any interest in a Fading Suns (aka "Dune+40k+Feudal Europe: the RPG) write-up? Seeing as I never hear about it anywhere, guessing it could qualify as obscure.
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I'm definitely interested in seeing that, especially if you've got the supplementary bits with the talking horses.
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