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Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project is go

nielsm posted:

I received a few sheets of Ilford RC Warmtone along with the Yashica MAT 124G I purchased recently, and just made my first print on it. The effect is certainly subtle, I actually have to compare it directly to a print on regular paper to notice the difference.
Anyway, I have a question about it: I'll want to eventually tone (some of) my prints, so does anyone know how toning interacts with warmtone paper? Or does the paper actually contain toning agent itself and doesn't need to be toned at all?

Selenium toning looks fantastic with warmtone paper. You'll (probably) end up with cool shadows and warm highlights, gives a really lovely extra bit of depth to the image.

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Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project is go

Prathm posted:

Baryt-paper and Fiber-paper is the same thing right?

No. Baryta is weird, it's a thin barium clay surface but it looks and feels like something halfway between plastic and ceramic.

edit:
VVV Hrm. never post on two hours of sleep, I was probably thinking of Yupo instead for whatever dumb reason.

Dr. Cogwerks fucked around with this message at Jul 27, 2011 around 07:06

Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project is go

Big printing is pretty damned fun. I played around with some forty-year-old 16x20 kodabromide recently, and despite it being a deep gray at the brightest, it's got me wanting to print a lot larger now.

Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project is go

nielsm posted:

How do you develop huge prints like that? A bucket of developer and a painting brush?

I work at my old college and the darkroom there has a bunch of 16x20 trays. I've got a 6x9 enlarger in my apartment hallway though, and since I'm cheap, I've been using painters trays to develop stuff up to 11x14 in my bathtub.

Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project is go

JaundiceDave posted:

Just started printing using 16x20 Ilford Warmtone Semi-matt. It's such a gorgeous paper, but at $4.20 a sheet it'd better be.

Selenium toning with warmtone paper =

Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project is go

The difference is kinda subtle, but after holding an untoned print of Ilford MGIV up to a toned copy of the same print, I don't think I can ever go back. The cold, deep black tones of the toned print are nicer than the sorta greenish-yellow black tones on the untoned Ilford.

Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project is go

Demon_Corsair posted:

Clearly I should have read into this more. Definitely going to look into adding a toning day into the mix at some point.

What papers does it work best with? Currently I just use the basic ilford fibre paper.

lford's fiber paper in a 1:7 bath of selenium toner for a few minutes gives a nice inky blackness and cools the whole image down. Toning a warmtone fiber paper is even neater, shadows go cold while the highlights stay warm, gives a good sense of depth to it.

I've got a big jug of ancient Kodak Polytoner and some sepia and gold toners that I still need to experiment with, more stuff salvaged from a closing photo store.... I'll post the results sometime.

Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project is go

JaundiceDave posted:

so what do you like to listen to in the darkroom. i'm a fan of classical stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLFVGwGQcB0 it kind of goes with the quiet zen feeling.

If I'm in a hurry, grouchy Norwegian metal.
Or if I'm trying to relax, electronica or classical.

Fun time back in the college darkroom... I set up the wetlab at sunset, put a CD on loop, and then just completely lost track of time. Came out after sunrise with a stack of thirty or so prints and a bloody nose, which I apparently hadn't noticed for awhile.

whoops

Dr. Cogwerks fucked around with this message at Nov 6, 2011 around 00:16

Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project is go

My old college used a rack full of window screens for drying prints. Some jerks didn't wash their prints properly (or at all?) and got fixer all over the drying screens one night, which ended up burning a yellow-brown grid onto a bunch of my prints that had been facing down.

Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project is go

Having curl problems? I feel bad for you son

I've found two pretty solid methods to fix curly fiber prints.
One is to toss them into these big hot presses that the college darkroom used for dry-matting prints. Throw some dry fiber prints into that thing between a couple sheets of matte board for protection, then use the press to iron them flat for a few minutes until they're nice and warm.

As a bonus, dry-mount presses look kinda adorable.





Another thing I've done at home is to just put a stack of fiber prints between some large sheets of cheap matte board, then set a heavy box or a stack of books on top of it and leave 'em there for awhile.

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Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project is go

I always washed the gently caress out of my prints. A good time: putting them in the communal drying rack and then finding them all covered in grid-shaped fixer burns the next day.

Don't be that jerk.

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