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AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.

marktheando posted:

Which one do you mean? Iron Man?

I'm thinking Hellboy.

Sir Kodiak posted:

I'm guessing he's echoing TetsuoTW's reference to Blade, which is indeed a lot of fun.


I think the first Blade was made when Wesley Snipes was still pretty popular.

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marktheando
Nov 4, 2006


Sir Kodiak posted:

I'm guessing he's echoing TetsuoTW's reference to Blade, which is indeed a lot of fun.

Blade or Hellboy would fit and I liked them both a lot. Though every American comic book character who isn't Batman or Superman is a D-lister to me. So it's tough to rank them.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007



Yeah, I was thinking of d-list character, not d-list actor. Both good movies, though. Between Blade 2 and the two Hellboys, Guillermo del Toro's got a nice bit of good comic-book movie work under his belt.

ZombieParts
Jul 18, 2009

ASK ME ABOUT VISITING PROSTITUTES IN CHINA AND FEELING NO SHAME. MY FRIEND IS SERIOUSLY THE (PATHETIC) YODA OF PAYING WOMEN TO TOUCH HIS (AND MY) DICK. THEY WOULDN'T DO IT OTHERWISE.


I enjoyed Joe Kelly's writing on Deadpool and I think that's the image most people have of the character.

Deadpool could be a great movie. Take Die Hard and start replacing characters with super-heroes and villains and there's a really fun Deadpool adventure.

and get rid of Reynolds.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007



ZombieParts posted:

Deadpool could be a great movie. Take Die Hard and start replacing characters with super-heroes and villains and there's a really fun Deadpool adventure.

A lot of superhero movies would be improved by an approach like this, where they're a movie first (even a derivative one) and they contain characters with superpowers second. Particularly when you consider the extent to which action heroes are superheroes in all but name to start with. Wolverine's "it hurts every time" but he keeps going, from the first two X-Men, isn't that far from John McClane. They just justify his resiliency in the fiction.

ZombieParts posted:

and get rid of Reynolds.

The only movie I can think of him adding something interesting to is Adventureland, which was able to subvert his bland handsomeness. He's an actor whose presence in a movie makes me significantly less interested in seeing it. I'd rather watch loving Channing Tatum, who at least has an interesting name.

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Sir Kodiak posted:




The only movie I can think of him adding something interesting to is Adventureland, which was able to subvert his bland handsomeness. He's an actor whose presence in a movie makes me significantly less interested in seeing it. I'd rather watch loving Channing Tatum, who at least has an interesting name.

He was good in Waiting. If you put that Ryan Reynolds in a Deadpool movie (instead of the more recent Ryan Reynolds rom com/lovely action flick) it would be good.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Romes128 posted:

He was good in Waiting. If you put that Ryan Reynolds in a Deadpool movie (instead of the more recent Ryan Reynolds rom com/lovely action flick) it would be good.

All a studio has to do is put Reynolds Blade 3 character in a Deadpool mask and then go to town.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

DAMMIT WESLEY!!!


I think one viable way to do a Deadpool movie might be to go with the storyline that has been used before with him, where he's trying to be a superhero but fails miserably at it because he's insane. I really think a movie is viable if done properly. If it's done poorly it could be a disaster though.

DoYouHasaRabbit
Oct 8, 2007


Did really no one like Reynolds in Wolverine Origins at all? The whole elevator scene between Wade and Stryker was hilarious. I thought his delivery was great.

edit: Didn't see the posts above me. I'm surprised for all the Reynolds hate. I don't think he's a bad actor he just picks some lovely movies sometimes.

i like tacos
Mar 26, 2010

Ask me about being a liar who doesn't actually like tacos and is a disagreeable asshole


BexGu posted:

All a studio has to do is put Reynolds Blade 3 character in a Deadpool mask and then go to town.

I was going to say this. The movie wasn't that good but Reynold's character was really enjoyable.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Online Encyclopedia



I... I like Ryan Reynolds.

I thought he did a good job in 'Smoking Aces', too.

And yeah, he was great in Blade 3.

Ofc. Sex Robot BPD
Aug 30, 2008


I dislike him. He reminds me of Dane Cook and that is an unforgivable sin.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

he said, fully erect.


The dude's really good in some really, really bad movies, so it's a hard barometer of his skills.

However, I thought he was great in Buried.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

I think most people's problem with him is that he is always being suggested as perfect for a role. Not quite as often as Nathan Filllion is suggested for a role, but he is getting there.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!


i like tacos posted:

I was going to say this. The movie wasn't that good but Reynold's character was really enjoyable.

You made a vampire.......pomeranian?

IUG
Jul 14, 2007

Without me, there is no mission.
I am the mission!


Well he also really wants to be him, and he does namedrop the character somewhat frequently. It seems like he might do it because he's probably one of the few people in Hollywood who wants to do a Deadpool movie, let alone play him. That probably swings a bunch of people his way as the actor of choice for Deadpool, as he's most likely to understand the character.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Online Encyclopedia



IShallRiseAgain posted:

I think most people's problem with him is that he is always being suggested as perfect for a role. Not quite as often as Nathan Filllion is suggested for a role, but he is getting there.
Well with Deadpool it seems to be pretty much true though.

lt_kennedy
Sep 2, 2007
Needs Moar Race

From the second German Avengers trailer

Tony: (To Dr. Banner) I promise a stress-free environment. No surprises.
Tony: (Prods Dr. Banner in the ribs with a pen/screwdriver/pointy thing )
Dr. Banner: Oooww!
Steve: Hey!
Tony: You really got that under control don't you? What's your secret? Relaxing Jazz? Bongo music?
Steve: Is everything a joke to you?
Tony: It is if it's funny.


ed: Japanese trailer has Pepper, a few smidgens more of footage: http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/d...20120315076798/

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Skwirl
May 13, 2007


Geekboy posted:

With that in mind, I just don't see who the market for a Deadpool movie would be. If the mainstream public was ready for a self-aware comic book parody then Watchmen, Scott Pilgrim and Super probably would have done better. I just don't see how you can convince the general public to see a movie about a character they've never heard of who balances humor and mental illness. Maybe you could get some traction selling it as "the world's first schizophrenic super-hero," but that's an awfully tough sell and would appeal to a mostly niche market.

I thought Watchman was successful, or at least as successful as a three hour Hard-R comic book movie with male full frontal could be. That's why Zack Snyder had free reign with Sucker Punch and why they gave him Superman? Also, Kick-rear end was prett successful too, so I think there is a market for comic book movies that are also commentary on comic books, at least as long as they have gratuitous violence.

Although whoever said Captain America was as much of a niche character before his movie as Deadpool is right now is just wrong. Captain America might not be Batman or Spider-Man, but there were news stories when they (temporarily) killed him off. I bet your parents knew who he was before the movie and I doubt they know who Deadpool is.

TetsuoTW
Aug 27, 2007

Let one hundred schools of dildo-bat contend



DoYouHasaRabbit posted:

edit: Didn't see the posts above me. I'm surprised for all the Reynolds hate. I don't think he's a bad actor he just picks some lovely movies sometimes.
I think people are either knee-jerking because he keeps being suggested as the ideal candidate for the role or still smarting after Green Lantern. I'm down with him as Deadpool, but has anyone else really demonstrated the ability to be both a quippy smartass and handle himself in that kind of fight scene? There's got to be a couple at least.

TetsuoTW fucked around with this message at Mar 15, 2012 around 04:56

Deadpool
Apr 28, 2002

Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."



TetsuoTW posted:

I'm down with him as Deadpool, but has anyone else really demonstrated the ability to be both a quippy smartass and handle himself in that kind of fight scene? There's got to be a couple at least.

We need a Liam Neeson Deadpool.

TheJoker138
Jan 1, 2008

The Clown Prince
Of Crime


Deadpool posted:

We need a Liam Neeson Deadpool.

As long as Deadpool breaks a guys arm, steals a stuffed element, then screams at his love interest to "TAKE IT! TAKE THE loving ELEPHANT!" before running off crying as his face melts, I would be completely ok with this.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


Deadpool posted:

We need a Liam Neeson Deadpool.

He's too busy in my fantasy dream world remaking Naked Gun, he has no time for comic book movies

Deadpool
Apr 28, 2002

Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."



Happy Noodle Boy posted:

He's too busy in my fantasy dream world remaking Naked Gun, he has no time for comic book movies

I thought the world had agreed that Jon Hamm was going to take care of that one? If not they need to get on board with it now.

TetsuoTW
Aug 27, 2007

Let one hundred schools of dildo-bat contend



Deadpool posted:

I thought the world had agreed that Jon Hamm was going to take care of that one? If not they need to get on board with it now.
Sorry, fantasy-world Jon Hamm is too busy playing Superman in a Kingdom Come adaptation.

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro


But who will play Captain Marvel?

ZombieParts
Jul 18, 2009

ASK ME ABOUT VISITING PROSTITUTES IN CHINA AND FEELING NO SHAME. MY FRIEND IS SERIOUSLY THE (PATHETIC) YODA OF PAYING WOMEN TO TOUCH HIS (AND MY) DICK. THEY WOULDN'T DO IT OTHERWISE.


Rough Lobster posted:

But who will play Captain Marvel?

Nathan Fillion obviously.

Bulging Nipples
Jan 16, 2006


Brian cranston

Wazzit
Jul 16, 2004

Who wants to play video games?


A new Japanese Trailer for The Avengers just got released. There is a load of new footage I haven't seen from the other trailers. Probably just finished up the CGI or something. It might be the editing, or maybe the cool Japanese guy hyping up the movie, but this trailer has gotten me a lot more excited.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=88022

fake edit: I tried looking for a non-embedded trailer, this is all I could find, not the best quality: http://youtu.be/KrCDmxER-vs

horsepeen
Sep 21, 2010

Christian Financial Adviser


Wazzit posted:

fake edit: I tried looking for a non-embedded trailer, this is all I could find, not the best quality: http://youtu.be/KrCDmxER-vs

Finally a Helicarrier!

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Distrusting me was the wisest thing you've done.

I finally figured out the other reason why this movie looks so lovely and "television" from the trailers. There's no motion anywhere outside of the objects in focus. The best looking scene is the ship rising from the water because the surrounding water is in motion; everything else, it's just people moving and nothing in the background having any motion at all (moving images on monitors, extra direction in the background as people are talking, etc.). It makes everything look dull and unpopulated.

PlushCow
Oct 19, 2005

The cow eats the grass


Darko posted:

I finally figured out the other reason why this movie looks so lovely and "television" from the trailers. There's no motion anywhere outside of the objects in focus. The best looking scene is the ship rising from the water because the surrounding water is in motion; everything else, it's just people moving and nothing in the background having any motion at all (moving images on monitors, extra direction in the background as people are talking, etc.). It makes everything look dull and unpopulated.

There's clearly a flicker on the computer monitor in the background around 51 seconds in - ha! There seems to be plenty going on in the background, except for maybe when theyre in the forest. Alone. In a forest. Or a warehouse. Or a kitchen.

It looks about as cinematic as Iron Man, I don't get all the complaints about the look of the movie when it seems pretty on par with the other marvel properties. Maybe people need to see the hulk shed a tear to the tune of O Fortuna while he watches the flowers around him die and go into a rage for people to start calling it cinematic genius.

TheJoker138
Jan 1, 2008

The Clown Prince
Of Crime


Hondo82 posted:

There's clearly a flicker on the computer monitor in the background around 51 seconds in - ha! There seems to be plenty going on in the background, except for maybe when theyre in the forest. Alone. In a forest. Or a warehouse. Or a kitchen.

It looks about as cinematic as Iron Man, I don't get all the complaints about the look of the movie when it seems pretty on par with the other marvel properties. Maybe people need to see the hulk shed a tear to the tune of O Fortuna while he watches the flowers around him die and go into a rage for people to start calling it cinematic genius.

Hulk needs to beat the Red Hulk to death while crying for people here to accept it.

Geekboy
Aug 21, 2005

"But Uncle Pete...
doggie dancing is your life!
"

If you can read this, I'm probably drinking.


Or, you know, they could make better movies.

TheJoker138
Jan 1, 2008

The Clown Prince
Of Crime


Geekboy posted:

Or, you know, they could make better movies.

Please, tell us more about how bad the movie you haven't seen that isn't out for another few months is so bad.

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

Space Batman
is sick of your shit.


TheJoker138 posted:

Please, tell us more about how bad the movie you haven't seen that isn't out for another few months is so bad.

I assume he's going by their track record, which means two good movies and then a pile of mediocre.

I'm with him!

Edit: VVV Where have you been all my posting career?

TheBigBudgetSequel fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2012 around 04:16

Geekboy
Aug 21, 2005

"But Uncle Pete...
doggie dancing is your life!
"

If you can read this, I'm probably drinking.


I have, however seen the rest of the Marvel movies. They're all mediocre. Sorry that upsets you, but they are. Iron Man is still the best of them and it's almost entirely because Robert Downey Jr. is just so awesome. It still isn't a great film in a lot of ways, but his charm pulls you along.

He's the best special effect I've seen so far in The Avengers, too.

Bulging Nipples
Jan 16, 2006


I liked iron man but I agree, RDJ being so charming saves that movie. That movie would have been horrible if not for the excellent casting.

der juicen
Aug 11, 2005
God looked down and said "I must handicap that gamer, for no man may game better than I."



... but it only made me more powerful. Now I need but one hand to out-game a g


Do we really expect comic book movies to be A++ classics. The only franchise that has gotten close to this is Batman. They are summer popcorn flicks. I think they are fun, even if they are just so-so with some fun inside. They are the candy bars of movies.

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SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

Sightless.
Soulless.
Mindless.


der juicen posted:

Do we really expect comic book movies to be A++ classics. The only franchise that has gotten close to this is Batman. They are summer popcorn flicks. I think they are fun, even if they are just so-so with some fun inside. They are the candy bars of movies.

Who will save us from the greatest villain of all: Not-Shakespeare, the dastardly evildoer responsible for crap films and the indifferent acceptance of them. When asked who is responsible for the catastrophic inanity of Hulk 2, a cretin in a Firefly shirt frowns and replies "it's Not Shakespeare, you know."

There are classic comic-book films. Specifically, Superman 1 and the Tim Burton Batmen (especially Returns). I'll toss Darkman in there, because why not? More recently: Watchmen, Hellboy 2, Hulk, Ghost Rider 2, Superman Returns and Kick-rear end are impeccably made and clearly about more than just passive spectacle despite shallow criticisms of them. They're highly cinematic. Hancock and Chronicle are both scrappy but highly effective, without being based on any established franchise.

No Marvel film is better than X-Men First Class, as that one surpasses them in its intellectual ambition that survived its rushed and sketchy execution.

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