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thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn 2012
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Official Spidey is out

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-amazin...teaser-trailer/

I'm not sure how I feel about the FPS section. I mean, I'm not against it in concept, but it's looking like a video game FMV at the moment.

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Deadpool
Apr 28, 2002

Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."



Bozz posted:

Why So Serious?

This looks closer in tone to Ang Lee's Hulk or The Dark Knight. I thought the issue fans had with Raimi's Spider-Man flicks is they were not lighthearted and carefree enough. Take out the spider bite/costume parts and this looks like a commercial for anti-depressants.

It's just a teaser. Since both the screenwriter and the director have said there's a lot of humor in the movie I think we'll probably be just fine. The biggest two problems with the Raimi movies were that they were too campy and goofy and that the leads weren't great. I think both of those things won't be a problem in this one.

Colonel Whitey
May 22, 2004

This shit's about to go off.


That trailer was loving awful. The tone was all wrong. I like everyone involved, so im still holding out hope, but the trailer had nothing good in it and makes me highly skeptical.

Cherokee Jack
Dec 27, 2005



Farbtoner posted:

So you're saying that we...shouldn't bother to compare it to Nolan's Batman series?

That's not what I meant. Just that the Marvel universe and the Nolan Batman universe are really only related in that they're based off of comic books. One is grounded in reality, as much as it can be, one is a lot more fanciful and superhero-y.

I don't know of many comic book movies that CAN easily compare to the Batman films. Maybe Watchmen?

Wazzit
Jul 16, 2004

Who wants to play video games?


thrawn527 posted:

I'm not sure how I feel about the FPS section. I mean, I'm not against it in concept, but it's looking like a video game FMV at the moment.

I actually liked everything in the trailer except for this part. It feels a little out of place in terms of the tone/style of the trailer.

Robot_Rumpus
Apr 4, 2004


Oasx posted:

And Thor, i dont think thats a particularly low bar

Right, Thor. I still think that's a pretty mediocre bar to step over. I mean they were ok and sort of fun but I didn't like any of them all that much. I guess I found them all to be competent.

Robot_Rumpus fucked around with this message at Jul 20, 2011 around 17:38

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



I really dig the music.

And Garfield's awkward Parker is pretty endearing I think. This isn't that dark, guys.

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008


Watching that Spidey trailer made me wish we got a Mirror's Edge movie.

lessthankyle
Dec 19, 2002

SKA SUCKS

I'm skeptical about the first-person view. It really changes the way the audience is supposed to read the movie, and I don't think I've seen a change like that done well.

Deadpool
Apr 28, 2002

Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."



I'm not actually convinced that the first person view will even be in the movie. And if it is I'm sure it won't be in for more than one or two short scenes. Webb has repeatedly said that he is doing almost all of the web swinging as practical shots and not as CGI.

Colonel Whitey
May 22, 2004

This shit's about to go off.


I agree with lessthankyle. I'm hoping that it's not actually in the movie, kinda like the Twin Towers teaser before SM1.

Joe Don Baker
Jun 20, 2004



Colonel Whitey posted:

I agree with lessthankyle. I'm hoping that it's not actually in the movie, kinda like the Twin Towers teaser before SM1.

That wasn't a teaser. That was going to be in the movie but then 9/11 happened.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

God damn it get a new avatar already.

Deadpool posted:

I'm not actually convinced that the first person view will even be in the movie. And if it is I'm sure it won't be in for more than one or two short scenes. Webb has repeatedly said that he is doing almost all of the web swinging as practical shots and not as CGI.

I was thrilled when I first heard this.

Colonel Whitey
May 22, 2004

This shit's about to go off.


Oh. Well I hope they chuck it anyway. It looks dumb.

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May 25, 2010

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Colonel Whitey posted:

That trailer was loving awful. The tone was all wrong. I like everyone involved, so im still holding out hope, but the trailer had nothing good in it and makes me highly skeptical.

Pretty much. They did say they were going for a darker, edgier spiderman, so welp.

lessthankyle
Dec 19, 2002

SKA SUCKS

Joe Don Baker posted:

That wasn't a teaser. That was going to be in the movie but then 9/11 happened.

And that's the same reason they should take out the first-person view.

Spacebump
Dec 23, 2003

Nowitzness

Scroto Baggins posted:

Looking neat. This is going to be in 3D, correct? Does anyone know if it was filmed in 3D or converted after the fact? I'm hoping that whole FPS scene isn't indicative of the gimmicks the movie is going to pull for the 3D crowd.

edit: VVV Word. Thanks. VVV

I'm hoping the fps scene was just for the trailer.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Human beings in the mire
What's a mire to a King?
What's a King to a God?
What's a God to a nonbeliever
Who don't believe in anything?


I really, really want to believe that this is going to be a good movie; I like Andrew Garfield, like Emma Stone, REALLY like Marc Webb. But nothing I'm seeing in the teaser is convincing me that this is going to be worth my time.

ghostwritingduck
Aug 26, 2004

"I hope you like waking up at 6 a.m. and having your favorite things destroyed. P.S. Forgive me because I'm cuter than that $50 wire I just ate."


Deadpool posted:

I'm not actually convinced that the first person view will even be in the movie. And if it is I'm sure it won't be in for more than one or two short scenes. Webb has repeatedly said that he is doing almost all of the web swinging as practical shots and not as CGI.

I was really enjoying the trailer until it went to the CGI heavy stuff of the old movies. This trailer makes me seriously doubt claims of focusing on practical stunts.

enigma105
Mar 16, 2004

Dodge, Dip, Duck,
Dive, and Down


Joe Don Baker posted:

That wasn't a teaser. That was going to be in the movie but then 9/11 happened.

That's the first I've ever heard that. What's your source?

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Echos of past events
nudge the tiller on
my present course
I await it's reflection
in the future


Man, Rotten Tomatoes is pulling something really low with Captain America right now.

Now, first off, before I say anything, I don't care if the movie is actually good or not (I mean, I do, I want it to be). I will be seeing it at midnight, and I will most likely enjoy it even if it is not a good movie. Now that that's out, here is what they are doing. There have been about 20~ positive reviews floating around on the internet by critics who are normally on RottenTomatoes since last night. However, RT has been making the scores as such the entire day; 0-2, 1-2, 1-4, 2-6, 6-6, 7-6, 10-6. Throughout this, they've been saying on Twitter "Captain America is rotten!" "Captain America still rotten." "Fresh review, still rotten."

They're withholding positive reviews and posting on Twitter more about Captain America whenever they add in reviews that it is still rotten (actually, that was just changed, they finally posted about it being fresh, though they haven't updated the website to show this) whilst they only made one tweet about say, Friends with Benefits (that it was fresh), whilst it is actually rotten now.

Bob Quixote
Jul 7, 2006
Martian motherfucker! Do you grok it?

Deadpool posted:

It's just a teaser. Since both the screenwriter and the director have said there's a lot of humor in the movie I think we'll probably be just fine. The biggest two problems with the Raimi movies were that they were too campy and goofy and that the leads weren't great. I think both of those things won't be a problem in this one.

I always liked the campy side of Spider-man. He's a teenage pro-wrestler/mad scientist in training turned superhero who battles guys like the Rhino or the Vulture. He makes cheesy jokes about his ridiculous life, deals with all the usual awkwardness of going through adolescence and goes out to rescue people who think that he's some kind of scumball villain.

Sure there's plenty of dark elements to the Spider-man stories, like the fact that the titular hero is a guilt ridden mess and tons of the usual comic book ultra-grim nonsense (marriage sold to the Devil, lol) but the tone of the stories was almost always one of light hearted adventure rather than brooding.

Joe Don Baker
Jun 20, 2004



enigma105 posted:

That's the first I've ever heard that. What's your source?

Wiki says the producers never intended the footage to be used in the movie, just in the trailer. However, I remember reading the exact opposite when the movie was released. I really wish I could find something.

Deadpool
Apr 28, 2002

Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."



Joe Don Baker posted:

Wiki says the producers never intended the footage to be used in the movie, just in the trailer. However, I remember reading the exact opposite when the movie was released. I really wish I could find something.

I've always heard it was never intended to be in the movie.

Digital Scumbag
Feb 11, 2010


GonSmithe posted:

Man, Rotten Tomatoes...

... is loving pointless. The internet ruins everything.

Joe Don Baker
Jun 20, 2004



Deadpool posted:

I've always heard it was never intended to be in the movie.

Yeah that's I'm seeing. It does seem odd though. The bank robbery is a much better way to introduce Spider-man as opposed to man on the street interviews. That seemed way out of place in the movie.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

DAMMIT WESLEY!!!


Yeah, after watching that trailer again so that I can actually see things, I'm still not sold. It doesn't give us a great idea as to where the film is headed, really.

ZapRowsdower
Apr 2, 2009


Does anyone else think they might be attempting a tie-in with Captain America, using Peter Parker's parents?

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Echos of past events
nudge the tiller on
my present course
I await it's reflection
in the future


ZapRowsdower posted:

Does anyone else think they might be attempting a tie-in with Captain America, using Peter Parker's parents?

No, for two very large reasons:
1) That would be infinitely stupid, and you're stupid for thinking it.
2) Marvel does not own the rights to Spider-Man, Sony does.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007



ZapRowsdower posted:

Does anyone else think they might be attempting a tie-in with Captain America, using Peter Parker's parents?

Why would Sony use a Spider-Man movie to promote Captain America?

edit: Whoops, beaten.

Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at Jul 20, 2011 around 20:54

Useless Rabbit
Jan 27, 2009



Man, that's a dull trailer for Spider-man. So loving mopey and brooding. Too many shots of an isolated Peter just staring off into space. If this is the way they planning on taking it, I'm not interested. More "deep" emotion doesn't equal better.

And the director sounds like a dick when he's comparing his film to the previous ones: http://www.chud.com/60556/the-amazi...-pisses-me-off/

Useless Rabbit fucked around with this message at Jul 20, 2011 around 20:54

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


What's with this making GBS threads on Raimi's films all of a sudden? The first film is fine but the second is loving brilliant, and the third is a studio mandated mess.

I hate the idea that superheroes need to be 'dark' just because they're superheroes. They've said there's going to be humour in the film, but it's also going to be 'character driven' and 'more serious' than Raimi's efforts so I think the trailer is a fair indication of what the movie will be like.

People who complained about Parker going Emo? It was a joke scene to show how goofy going emo is. Now we have the hero staring off into the distance like he's in loving Twilight.

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006



I was making GBS threads on Raimi's Spiderman movies before it was cool. Every tacky speech from Aunt May made me embarassed to even be watching the things.

That's not a defense of the upcoming film, though. I don't have high hopes for a film made solely because Sony would otherwise lose the rights.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005


Yeah honestly if there's one thing I really enjoy about the Marvel films is that none of the heroes so far have bitched about just wanting to be normal. Apart from Hulk I guess and that makes sense. Tony Stark is just living it up enjoying being loving Iron Man, Thor didn't stop grinning when he was stomping frost trolls (guess Thor wouldn't know what normal is) and Cap is probably going to be pretty chuffed to be a super soldier till he gets frozen.

Spacebump
Dec 23, 2003

Nowitzness

DrVenkman posted:

What's with this making GBS threads on Raimi's films all of a sudden? The first film is fine but the second is loving brilliant, and the third is a studio mandated mess.

I hate the idea that superheroes need to be 'dark' just because they're superheroes. They've said there's going to be humour in the film, but it's also going to be 'character driven' and 'more serious' than Raimi's efforts so I think the trailer is a fair indication of what the movie will be like.

People who complained about Parker going Emo? It was a joke scene to show how goofy going emo is. Now we have the hero staring off into the distance like he's in loving Twilight.

I also think it's a bit weird people are making GBS threads on Spiderman 1 and 2. I liked those movies except for the fact that Spiderman wasn't cracking jokes while fighting. (and that he never said "my spider-sense is tingling" but that's nitpickey and not important)

hog wizard
Feb 16, 2005

by angerbeet


I thought only Batman should be dark and gritty because he is literally a lunatic while other superheroes like Iron Man and Spider-Man are just "regular joes."

bazaar apparatus
Nov 30, 2006

Whenever my body starts to feel sick, I just stop being sick and be awesome instead.

I really like the idea behind what they're going for with that 1st-person sequence in the Spider-Man trailer, but something about the CGI and choreography/cinematography seem....off to me. I can't quite put my finger on it.

DFu4ever
Oct 4, 2002



bazaar apparatus posted:

I really like the idea behind what they're going for with that 1st-person sequence in the Spider-Man trailer, but something about the CGI and choreography/cinematography seem....off to me. I can't quite put my finger on it.

I've never seen a first person effect where you actually see your limbs done in a way that didn't come off looking odd.

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003



I recently tried to rewatch the first Spiderman, as well as the first X-Men, and they really just do not stand the test of time well at all. Haven't seen the second Spidey in a while, but it's probably better. The third, well, we all know the temperature of that one.

I'm interested in this Spiderman reboot because it looks like they aren't going to stop and wink at the loving camera every 15 god drat seconds. One of Green Lantern's major failings was that it refused to play itself straight. Now, don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean Spiderman should be a "straight man" or something (we already had three movies of that OH SNAP), just that the film should be engaging on its own terms. Batman, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Hellboy, etc... they all did this well.

Some of those early generation superhero movies just feel incredibly hokey now.

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bazaar apparatus
Nov 30, 2006

Whenever my body starts to feel sick, I just stop being sick and be awesome instead.

DFu4ever posted:

I've never seen a first person effect where you actually see your limbs done in a way that didn't come off looking odd.

Actually I don't think the limbs are that bad, but the CGI in certain parts seems kinda cheap-looking, and on that one part where he starts running towards the right side of a rooftop, the camera stays fixed forward so it looks like he could be crabwalking for all we can tell.

Plus the part where he slides under some piping seems unnecessary (and potentially costume-ruining!) for someone who can leap over just about anything, it's just ripped straight from Mirror's Edge for whatever reason. When you could be swinging around buildings like a loon, why even bother running on rooftops? They should've made the 1st-person version of this instead.

I'm over-analyzing this so I'll stop now.

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