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Zzulu
May 15, 2009


Three Red Lights posted:

It'll probably be skrulls or something, Loki got beaten by Thor single handedly so its not like he's a credible threat on his own. An army on multiple fronts would give every member something to actually do.

Isn't Loki a trickster? His whole schtick is to cause situations to happen that the heroes have to deal with. He'll probably be the cause to some greater threat like he usually is in the comics.

In the first Avengers issue I think he did something to the Hulk so the other Avengers had to fight him, for example

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thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005


I bet he'll do that thing where he makes himself look like what each Avenger thinks is his biggest mistake or weakness. Like appear as Bucky to Cap or Yinsen to Iron Man and then clock him while he's distracted.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Echos of past events
nudge the tiller on
my present course
I await it's reflection
in the future



Anyone know what Loki's carrying in this shot?

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Ben, buddy, it's a wonderful day to go web slinging!


If the cosmic cube is involved I am hoping a big bad is a certain Mad Titan. That would be all the muscle needed.

i like tacos
Mar 26, 2010

Ask me about being a liar who doesn't actually like tacos and is a disagreeable asshole


Scroto Baggins posted:


Edit: Question about a scene from Cap. During the train scene did Bucky shut the door behind Cap, locking him in with the HYDRA agent? I thought it looked like he did when I saw the movie the first time, but on the second viewing, I wasn't so sure. It would make since in a Winter Soldier kind of way.

I think you're over thinking it and it was just Aram Zola remotely closing the door and they fell into a trap

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.

i like tacos posted:

I think you're over thinking it and it was just Aram Zola remotely closing the door and they fell into a trap

I think it's supposed to be a bit more ambiguous than that. Make it look like Zola did it for 95% of the audience but perhaps with a moment of "Wait, did Bucky do that? Oh, I guess not," but leave it ambiguous enough so that people who are familiar with Winter Soldier could go "Oh wait a minute, what were they doing to Bucky when he was strapped to the table? Shiiit".

Scroto Baggins
May 18, 2007

Bruce Wayne is a late bloomer. We can relate to late blooming because as an audience many of us did not have sex until our early 30s.

i like tacos posted:

I think you're over thinking it and it was just Aram Zola remotely closing the door and they fell into a trap

I'm not over thinking it. My first viewing I thought Bucky had closed the door to trap Cap. But then there is nothing to back this up and I forgot about it. My second viewing, I didn't think Bucky did it at all. However, I was talking to my friend who had asked me if I noticed Bucky closing the door, and I wanted to know if anyone else thought that was well.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.

Scroto Baggins posted:

I'm not over thinking it. My first viewing I thought Bucky had closed the door to trap Cap. But then there is nothing to back this up and I forgot about it. My second viewing, I didn't think Bucky did it at all. However, I was talking to my friend who had asked me if I noticed Bucky closing the door, and I wanted to know if anyone else thought that was well.

Yeah, my first thought in the theater was that Bucky locked the door and was going to blow himself up to save Cap or something, but forgot about it after it never came up again. Didn't even remember it until I was reading about the movie after.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


It was a trap, door shut by itself.

E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010


One question about the Cap movie:

When Arnim Zola was captured, he sees some blood on the ground. Was that Cap's blood? Did he realize that's what it was so he got excited over the prospect of being able to collect it or something?

Deadpool
Apr 28, 2002

Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."



E the Shaggy posted:

One question about the Cap movie:

When Arnim Zola was captured, he sees some blood on the ground. Was that Cap's blood? Did he realize that's what it was so he got excited over the prospect of being able to collect it or something?

No, it was to scare him. Make him think he was going to be tortured so he'd talk.

TheDart
Jan 7, 2010



Deadpool posted:

No, it was to scare him. Make him think he was going to be tortured so he'd talk.

I like to think that it was put there specifically to make him turn down the steak so Tommy Lee Jones could have some decent dinner for a change.

Rake Arms
Sep 15, 2007

It's just not the same without widescreen.


I very much enjoyed Captain America. I think Joe Johnston's background with the pulp genre paid off greatly here, and he's always had a knack for period pieces. I loved the little hint that it might take place in the same universe as Indiana Jones. I'm a huge sucker for Indiana Jones, so the entire style of the movie captivated me.

penismightier
Dec 6, 2005

What the hell, I'll just eat some trash.



Rake Arms posted:

I loved the little hint that it might take place in the same universe as Indiana Jones. I'm a huge sucker for Indiana Jones, so the entire style of the movie captivated me.

What hint?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your Mother!


Rake Arms posted:

I very much enjoyed Captain America. I think Joe Johnston's background with the pulp genre paid off greatly here, and he's always had a knack for period pieces.

How the hell can Joe Johnston have "a knack for period pieces" when his only real period piece is The Rocketeer? (Well, Hidalgo, I guess, but dear God that was awful.)

I enjoyed Captain America plenty, but let's not go overboard on praise for Johnston. The guy has made The Rocketeer and Captain America. Everything else has been utter poo poo.

E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010


penismightier posted:

What hint?

Red Skull says early on in the movie "And to think the Fuhrer is collecting trinkets in the desert.", possibly alluding to Raiders.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.

Rake Arms posted:

I very much enjoyed Captain America. I think Joe Johnston's background with the pulp genre paid off greatly here, and he's always had a knack for period pieces. I loved the little hint that it might take place in the same universe as Indiana Jones. I'm a huge sucker for Indiana Jones, so the entire style of the movie captivated me.

Same. Plus, Marvel did technically put out a bunch of Indiana Jones comics.

gregday
May 23, 2003


E the Shaggy posted:

Red Skull says early on in the movie "And to think the Fuhrer is collecting trinkets in the desert.", possibly alluding to Raiders.

But the real Nazis actually did raid Egyptian ruins and burial sites.

Rake Arms
Sep 15, 2007

It's just not the same without widescreen.


Timby posted:

How the hell can Joe Johnston have "a knack for period pieces" when his only real period piece is The Rocketeer? (Well, Hidalgo, I guess, but dear God that was awful.)

I enjoyed Captain America plenty, but let's not go overboard on praise for Johnston. The guy has made The Rocketeer and Captain America. Everything else has been utter poo poo.

October Sky and The Wolf Man. How am I going "overboard on praise for Johnston?" He's had an inconsistent career, but he has a forte that he handles very well. Yes Jurassic Park 3 is poo poo, but you can't seriously say those are his only worthwhile films.

edit: And let's not forget he was the art director for the first two Indiana Jones films, so yes he has a goddamn knack for period pieces.

Rake Arms fucked around with this message at Jul 25, 2011 around 21:47

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro


People hated Hidalgo? It wasn't amazing, but I thought it was a fun action movie.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


E the Shaggy posted:

Red Skull says early on in the movie "And to think the Fuhrer is collecting trinkets in the desert.", possibly alluding to Raiders.

Cursory glance, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahnenerbe

Rocket Ace
Aug 11, 2006

R.I.P. Dave Stevens

Rake Arms posted:

edit: And let's not forget he was the art director for the first two Indiana Jones films, so yes he has a goddamn knack for period pieces.

That's very interesting. Dave Stevens, creator of the Rocketeer, did storyboards for Raiders. I wonder if they met during the making of that film and became buddies, paving the way to the movie collaboration later on...

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

Fuck yes, I want the most authentic Trail of Tears imaginable, bitches. Gotta up the Orcs-dying-per-ten-miles rate from 2d4 to 2d8. Anyone have stats for dire smallpox?

Imagine a d20 stamping on a human face- forever.


Rough Lobster posted:

People hated Hidalgo? It wasn't amazing, but I thought it was a fun action movie.

I need to go back and watch it again to see if it holds up. I remember it being really awesome but then again I'm a sucker for movies in the desert.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

The Running King


Ghost Rider - Spirit of Vengeance shots:

http://io9.com/5824601/your-first-l...-skull-stuntman

SGT. Squeaks
Jun 18, 2003

Two men enter, one man leaves. That is the way of the hobotorium!

Well, at least in Ghost Rider form he doesn't look as crappy as the first one.

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003



And so far the bike doesn't look like a lovely try-hard 90s album cover.

SGT. Squeaks
Jun 18, 2003

Two men enter, one man leaves. That is the way of the hobotorium!

SlimGoodbody posted:

And so far the bike doesn't look like a lovely try-hard 90s album cover.

I heard that in this movie he doesn't have a single motorcycle, but turns anything he uses turns into a hellride.

Also, love the username. I worked for that guy on a project about a decade ago, but I never got to see the suit.

Tuxedo Jack
Sep 11, 2001

Hey Ma, who's that band I like? Oh yeah, Hall & Oates.


gregday posted:

But the real Nazis actually did raid Egyptian ruins and burial sites.

This has been mentioned. It's possibly an allusion to Raiders - but more likely just a reference to what was really going on at the time to ground what Hydra was doing in some sort of reality.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

God damn it get a new avatar already.

The one thing that continues to blow my mind about the Marvel Universe series of films is the quality of the cast in every one of them. Every single film in the shared universe series doesn't just have a fantastic lead but an amazing supporting cast as well. I never expected that kind of quality to be honest.

DFu4ever
Oct 4, 2002



Rough Lobster posted:

People hated Hidalgo?

I can't see why, since it was a pretty decent film. Everyone I know that saw it at least enjoyed it. I've never heard anyone hate on it.

EDIT: Although, I will predict that any 'hate' centers around the fact that the white guy won the foreigner's race and that is somehow bad and wrong...and possibly racist. You would only actually find this opinion on an internet forum, but the more I think about it the more I believe this opinion has probably popped up recently.

Otherwise I can't really come up with much that even critics would 'hate' about the film.

DFu4ever fucked around with this message at Jul 26, 2011 around 01:50

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

I haven't seen Rocketeer since I was a very small child, will I enjoy it as much again so many years later? I generally see people regard it positively, but I honestly remember nothing about it.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


ToastyPotato posted:

I haven't seen Rocketeer since I was a very small child, will I enjoy it as much again so many years later? I generally see people regard it positively, but I honestly remember nothing about it.

Timothy Dalton is glorious in it. You'll love it just as you did then.

Ho Chi Mint
Sep 6, 2005


The Rocketeer really is an enjoyable movie. It's in the vein of Indian Jones, or Captain America, but not quite that tier. It holds up very well though.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

God damn it get a new avatar already.

The Rocketeer continues to be one of my favorite films to this day. I shelled out for the deluxe hardcover of the original comics entirely because of my fond memories of the film.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

Three lives you shall have of me. No more, no less. Three and we are done.


Empire scans of Judge Dredd, going to hold judgement till a trailer comes out but it looks okay now in better light.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/a...dd-photos-debut







More at the link.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

God damn it get a new avatar already.

That looks excellent in full light. Really looking forward to it now.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


Man he's got the "angry as gently caress" mouth down.

Farbtoner
May 17, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Man he's got the "angry as gently caress" mouth down.

He's gone past that, he's full-on sturgeon face.

>:<

TheJoker138
Jan 1, 2008

The Clown Prince
Of Crime


Semi-related: This movie has me interested in the character. If I wanted to read some Judge Dredd, from the beginning, are there any good collections?

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tin can made man
Apr 12, 2005

why don't you ask him
about his penis


So, speculation about the Marvel Movie Universe:

It all seems to come down to the Cosmic Cube, which presumably was left behind on Earth by some Asgardian back in who-the-hell-knows when. Zola and The Red Skull are able to tap into it and turn it into a power source, which confounds the rest of the world in 1941.

Hydra, relying on the CUBE TECHNOLOGY or whatever reach a level of prominence to where they become a legitimate, international threat. After they're essentially singlehandedly dismantled by Captain America, it's possible that the US government, seeing that Hydra was a hair's breath away from annihilating most of the world, decides that having a deep science division is in their best interest. At some point between 1943 and 2010, SHIELD is formed - the SSR (I don't remember what the abbreviation actually stood for) from Captain America may have been the organization's precursor. The US decides to keep SHIELD a little more under wraps, since they don't want a Hydra situation to happen to them.

Howard Stark finds the Cosmic Cube, and at some point it arrives in SHIELD's custody - whether it was seized or if Stark gave it to them is unclear. Stark MAY have used the Cube to create the Arc Reactor in the 60s (to "appease the hippies", ostensibly); the only real justification for this is that both the Cube and the Arc Reactor have that distinctive blue glow, and that may be an intentional motif.

Of course, the Arc Reactor doesn't work. This could be for a myriad of reasons, such as the government having the full Cube at this point, or Zola not knowing how to completely create a way to siphon energy from it.

In Iron Man, Tony Stark creates his own mini-arc reactor with a sliver of Plotdevicium, which is apparently extremely rare and valuable. This may be a synthetic version of whatever the Cube is made out of that was created by Howard Stark; again, wild speculation. If this is the case, the miniature Arc Reactor is essentially a smaller version of the massive energy battery created by the Red Skull in 1941. With a power source the size of one of the disintegrator rifle batteries that Hydra used, Tony can power a man-sized tank, seemingly indefinitely.

Meanwhile, the US Government and/or SHIELD is still trying to reach the peak of war science achieved in the 40s, but lack a mind as brilliant as Erskine or Red Skull's. Attempts to replicate the super-soldier serum fail, but apparently such experiments and/or their results fell under the umbrella of the regular US Army (Incredible Hulk); the level of separation between the military and SHIELD is unknown, but presumably they don't have a working serum, either.

Some poo poo happens in Asgard, causing Thor and friends to pop in on Earth unexpectedly. SHIELD finds out that the Skull's flummery about the Cube being some Asgardian artifact might not have been completely bull. At this point, Stark has joined SHIELD, but to an unknown extent. It's possible that with his assistance, and that of the scientist from Thor being possessed/controlled/whatever by Loki advances their understanding of how to work the Cube, but this is the biggest leap of speculation.

So that brings us to the events as they are at the end of Captain America. They have Stark, they have the Cube, they have the Captain, and at some point they get Thor back. This puts SHIELD in a sweet position; they want to harness the power of the cube; the Red Skull and like a thousand dudes almost literally destroyed civilization with it seventy years ago, so SHIELD with its own resources and position would definitely see the advantage in having it. Additionally, they know how potent just one super soldier was, and they have him back in present times, PLUS gamma radiation technology that can turn a man into an unstoppable murder machine. Some guy in a SHIELD lab is going to want to mix all this together; it's too tempting. Loki's on Earth, but his plot is so far unknown.

It's a lot of about comic book movies, and all of the connective tissue of the universe revolves around "well THIS is blue and so is THAT so they must be related", but it might be a good way to tie the films together.

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