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Grendels Dad posted:The thing about icons is that you can't change them too much, lest they stop being iconic. See: US Agent. Yep. I don't see the problem with the traditional costume. Why does everything have to be "cool"? Why can't a dude just wear some bright red underwear? Part of what makes Superman such a mensch is his ability to put his hands on his hips, puff his chest out and say to the world "yeah, I'm wearing this." Who's gonna tell him he can't?
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Yannick_B posted:Superhero costumes with seams-lines all over the place is going to be the thing in superhero design/art we look back on 5-7 years from now and go "Oh right, that was the thing back then we took up, over-did and it now looks ridiculous". I would hate that poo poo if I was penciling a monthly book. Who on earth would want to draw that cluttered batsuit over and over again?
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:Why does Superman look like a flesh colored Hulk? Because David Finch is a lovely artist.
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No loving poo poo. Look at Wonder Woman there. She's like some kind of spindly 14 year old stripper/monster.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:There's nothing wrong with his compositions. They're decent. I don't like his use of line. There's no bold strokes. It's all very fine detail that I don't think suits a Superman story. When I think of Superman I immediately think of art deco, something angular and slightly abstract. Lots of strong lighting. I do agree about the coloring, and it bugged the poo poo out of me the whole time I read rear end. I'd say it was some of the crappier computer coloring I've ever seen. EDIT: Actually, I don't agree entirely. I actually thought the coloring should've been even flatter, instead of adding all that phony soft gradient texture. The color choices were mostly fine. DNS fucked around with this message at Aug 3, 2011 around 22:11 |
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TheJoker138 posted:No loving poo poo. Look at Wonder Woman there. She's like some kind of spindly 14 year old stripper/monster. Holding her lasso through her legs like that isn't helping anything either. At least she's not going all Voodoo with it. Only room for one stripper hero in DC.
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Jamesman posted:Do we have to? There is absolutely not a single reason Perry White has to be white. Not a single god damned one, unless you're adapting the story where he adopted a black child and had to deal with the racial conflict that came from doing so. Since that is pretty drat unlikely for a Superman movie, there's nothing wrong with 'changing a character from the source material' in this way. Happy Noodle Boy posted:Don't forget they went ahead and made Wonder Woman pantsless. Again. I guess pants were not a welcome change Wonder Woman seriously looks about 14 there. What the hell.
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ImpAtom posted:Wonder Woman seriously looks about 14 there. What the hell. Not to mention that for an Amazon woman she looks like the shortest of the bunch.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Don't forget they went ahead and made Wonder Woman pantsless. Again. I guess pants were not a welcome change Is it just me, or does Wonder Woman's necklace look like some sort of collar? The way she's holding her lasso makes it look like it's chained to her collar when you glance at it too.
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Gettin in on this Superman Costume Debate. It was brought up in BSS about a Regal-Militaristic look vs a more inviting, less intimidating look. I like the following... This Costume  With the way the Justice Lord's Superman cape drapes over the shoulders and from the S  With Kirk's buttoned uniform where the S goes.  Also, no gloves. Though that's more of a militaristic ruler alien type rather than something less intimidating.
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Deadpool posted:Yup. These all look great and sleek and compact and pretty much the exact opposite of the 90's extreme poo poo. Also they all actually have realistic body proportions. You guys are misremembering the 90s general aesthetic awfulness so much that you must be on crack. stratdax fucked around with this message at Aug 3, 2011 around 23:36 |
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Gyges posted:Is it just me, or does Wonder Woman's necklace look like some sort of collar? The way she's holding her lasso makes it look like it's chained to her collar when you glance at it too. Not just you, pretty much exactly what I thought before I expanded the picture.
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I am Bob posted:Not just you, pretty much exactly what I thought before I expanded the picture. They are finally returning to her bondage roots.
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stratdax posted:These all look great and sleek and compact and pretty much the exact opposite of the 90's extreme poo poo. Also they all actually have realistic body proportions. You guys are misremembering the 90s general aesthetic awfulness so much that you must be on crack. All that piping is the 2010s equivalent of excessive pouches in the 90s. Look how cluttered Superman's costume is. That'd be fine for a movie, but it's pointless in a comic book.
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Gatts posted:Gettin in on this Superman Costume Debate. It was brought up in BSS about a Regal-Militaristic look vs a more inviting, less intimidating look. They kinda did something like this back in the old Superboy show :  He was an evil communist version of Superboy. My friend has been trying to make that costume for loving years now, but hasn't had any luck finding a seamstress.
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I had a disgusting customer in today bitching about the Perry White thing. Ruined the whole work day for me.
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Gatts posted:Gettin in on this Superman Costume Debate. It was brought up in BSS about a Regal-Militaristic look vs a more inviting, less intimidating look.  Purely out of curiosity.
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feedmyleg posted:
Man, Justice Lord Martian Manhunter has such a better costume than his normal counterpart that its not even funny. Briefs and boots with a cape doesn't really make a costume. At least this one gets a shirt and some pants.
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feedmyleg posted:
Oh my God. Thank you. You are wonderful for doing that. Superman got some style there.
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Zack Snyder's a lovely director and Watchmen was terrible ; he should not have been let with in 10 yards of anything related to the superman film. The only grace is that Nolan is producing. I still think its going to be a piece of poo poo because Snyder is a terrible hack director. there its out there I can't take it back, suck it people who like watchmen.
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General Ironicus posted:What is this from?
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Wise Old Shitashi posted:What is this from? Action Comics 1 by Grant Morrison
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The Grant Morrison part I'm interested in, everything else that isn't him...not so much. We get to look forward to this by Perez and someone else who will do the actual continuing Superman stories! Isn't that what EVERYONE was waiting for!?
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Don't forget they went ahead and made Wonder Woman pantsless. Again. I guess pants were not a welcome change Oh for crying out loud. I was just about to commend the new Wonder Woman design and now this. Oh well, I guess she will always be a joke.
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ToastyPotato posted:Oh for crying out loud. I was just about to commend the new Wonder Woman design and now this. Oh well, I guess she will always be a joke.  DC comics is a joke.
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Gatts posted:
Batman is kind of cool when I ignore most of the comics he's... 
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ToastyPotato posted:Batman is kind of cool when I ignore most of the comics he's... Batman is awesome Grant Morrison is writing him. Actually every character is awesome when Grant Morrison is writing them
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ToastyPotato posted:Batman is kind of cool when I ignore most of the comics he's... Go grab Knight of Vengeance (part of the Flashpoint clusterfuck). It's absolutely amazing.
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Hollis posted:Zack Snyder's a lovely director and Watchmen was terrible ; he should not have been let with in 10 yards of anything related to the superman film. The only grace is that Nolan is producing. I still think its going to be a piece of poo poo because Snyder is a terrible hack director. I enjoyed Watchmen but I don't really disagree with you. I'm sure Superman will have the same ugly brown poo poo filter Snyder likes to put over all his movies, with a lot of pointless slowmo. I don't know what the technical lighting term is but its poo poo.
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Synder's Superman is 100% More Likely to punch a guy, though, so I'm optimistic.
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Kung Fu Jesus posted:I enjoyed Watchmen but I don't really disagree with you. I'm sure Superman will have the same ugly brown poo poo filter Snyder likes to put over all his movies, with a lot of pointless slowmo. I don't know what the technical lighting term is but its poo poo. Watchmen's colour scheme was predominately blue-grey with yellow accents. Dawn of the Dead had a varied palette, but was heavy on the greens. Also, the slow motion is not pointless.
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Kung Fu Jesus posted:I enjoyed Watchmen but I don't really disagree with you. I'm sure Superman will have the same ugly brown poo poo filter Snyder likes to put over all his movies, with a lot of pointless slowmo. I don't know what the technical lighting term is but its poo poo. Same here. Watchmen is the only Snyder film that I could stand to sit through. I think he is the weakest link with Man of Steel. I read some place in my internet journeys that Man of Steel was delayed both because of script issues, and because TDKR has kept Nolan too busy to keep an eye on Snyder. Take that for what you will.
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I don't like Snyder, at all - Watchmen couldn't have missed the mark harder if it tried - but I don't mind him for Superman. Reason being, after Returns, all I really care about seeing at this point is Superman destroying lots of poo poo, getting his rear end kicked and kicking some rear end. I trust Snyder for cool looking action sequences. I'm actually almost kindof excited for it.
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Timby posted:but Michael Clarke Duncan owned that role. Kingpin was by no means a problem in that movie. MCD is the best drat Kingpin there is. The only other person I'd want to see playing him is John Goodman.
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Snyder's eye for action sequences is going to be a big advantage for Superman. I'm interested that Nolan is a producer on this. Is the DC film universe going to be the Nolan-verse?Fishylungs posted:MCD is the best drat Kingpin there is. The only other person I'd want to see playing him is John Goodman. I think had all of the other elements in the movie come together, MCD would have been a weak link. "I grew up on the streets an' now I'm gonna hit you" Is he good because he is so massive? MCD as Kingpin seems a lot like if they had cast a blonde wrestler as Thor. ZombieParts fucked around with this message at Aug 4, 2011 around 06:36 |
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ZombieParts posted:Is the DC film universe going to be the Nolan-verse? If you're asking whether or not Snyder's Superman will take place in the same film-universe as Nolan's Batman, no. Despite "godfathering" the Superman reboot, Nolan has gone on to say that both franchises stand alone in their own unique realities. No Marvel-esque cross over unfortunately. Plus, the idea of Superman doesn't really mesh well with the current film iterations of Batman... though really, if he wanted to, I'm sure Nolan could make it work somehow. We'd just need someone to finally do Wonder Woman some justice on the big screen to get a proper Justice League film triumvirate going. teagone fucked around with this message at Aug 4, 2011 around 06:21 |
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ZombieParts posted:Snyder's eye for action sequences is going to be a big advantage for Superman. I'm interested that Nolan is a producer on this. Is the DC film universe going to be the Nolan-verse? I think DC's plans for a film universe died with Green Lantern. Expect future films to be unrelated to each other.
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Rake Arms posted:I think DC's plans for a film universe died with Green Lantern. Expect future films to be unrelated to each other. There seems to be a delusional interest in making a Green Lantern 2, so I'd say the crossover dollar signs haven't faded from their eyes yet.
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Rake Arms posted:I think DC's plans for a film universe died with Green Lantern. Expect future films to be unrelated to each other. This is the best possible news. Making everything fit into a single universe is creatively stagnant. If someone wants make a Justice League movie (or any other ensemble), there's no reason why it can't just be another stand alone film. Comic adaptations should be the last place you'd expect to find a strict continuity between each film makers' interpretation of a character.
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Bozz posted:I read some place in my internet journeys that Man of Steel was delayed both because of script issues, and because TDKR has kept Nolan too busy to keep an eye on Snyder. Take that for what you will. Could be, but the biggest factor for us is the fact that we'd be competing against ourselves with a December 2012 release due to The Hobbit. Since Christmastime is already established among LotR moviegoers and we don't have a major tentpole for 2013 announced yet, the move made sense. I'm optimistic for Snyder. His visuals are absolutely amazing and he didn't write the script for this one. I enjoyed 300 and Watchmen, and even Suckerpunch was good during the crazy dream sequences. If he can be reigned in, I think people underestimate how well the dude does with lights and colors, things that go well with a Superman movie. As TBBS said, we are guaranteed to see Superman knock some dudes around in the name of justice, which is what we all really want to see anyway. As for Green Lantern, we'll see. I know a lot of people at the studio were disappointed with the quality of the film as much as the numbers, but the execs aren't idiots. Barry Meyer and Jeff Robinov have helped give us the Triple Crown for quite a few years in their reign and took a major chance with Harry Potter that turned out to be very well executed. I like that they admitted there wasn't enough action or space sequences. And that they do like the comics and character enough to put more into it. They are listening to the feedback, which is good. The question is whether it will be good enough, and if they will let the next guy have more creative control instead of forcing a movie via committee. Axel Serenity fucked around with this message at Aug 4, 2011 around 07:07 |
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