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muscles like this?
Jan 17, 2005

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Interesting bit of Cap news, Joe Johnston is talking Winter Soldier, not for the sequel but getting his own spin-off movie.

http://www.slashfilm.com/captain-am...oba-fett-movie/

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I told the Marvel guys that there is a character that I’m really interested in called ‘The Winter Soldier’ and that if, ‘you guys decide to make that picture I would definitely be interested.’ It’s the ‘Bucky’ Barnes story… We talked about ‘The Winter Soldier’ which is the continuation of what his story is. It’s basically that he is captured by the Russians and he’s brainwashed and turned into an assassin. But you know there are a thousand ways to go with that. I just think that it would be interesting to take a character that was in ‘Captain America’ and build a story around him. Plus, I like Sebastian Stan a lot (who played Bucky) I think he would be an interesting actor to build another feature around.

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Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006


Wazzit posted:

Anyone planning on seeing the Captain America Screening at Comic Con this Thursday? It's the only day I'm going this year but I'm half tempted to try to go to it, as it seems like the appropriate audience to watch it with.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=79905

Also, for some reason I had thought that Comic Con was next week, until I had a "oh poo poo" moment realizing today was the 18th.

Very thankful to you for this link. I picked up tickets to the 6:15 showing. Even used Fandango bucks - saving me money to blow at the convention.

Wazzit
Jul 16, 2004

Who wants to play video games?


Jack Skeleton posted:

Very thankful to you for this link. I picked up tickets to the 6:15 showing. Even used Fandango bucks - saving me money to blow at the convention.

No problem! There aren't a lot of panels that night after the floor closes so I will probably try to get tickets for one of the later showings at night. Should be a fun crowd!

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


muscles like this? posted:



Interesting bit of Cap news, Joe Johnston is talking Winter Soldier, not for the sequel but getting his own spin-off movie.

http://www.slashfilm.com/captain-am...oba-fett-movie/

I'd love to see this. And the Boba Fett movie.

Arkane
Dec 19, 2006

Wanna fight?


I think this encapsulates every Batman thread ever:

http://www.mothersdevotion.com/indu...ser-easter-eggs

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

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Arkane posted:

I think this encapsulates every Batman thread ever:

http://www.mothersdevotion.com/indu...ser-easter-eggs

So I wonder who that guy actually is. It almost looks like they accidentally caught a crew member in the background but I doubt they'd be that sloppy in something this high-profile.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

A true leader of men


TOOT BOOT posted:

So I wonder who that guy actually is. It almost looks like they accidentally caught a crew member in the background but I doubt they'd be that sloppy in something this high-profile.

Can't it just be some random henchman?



Why was the other thread closed?

Bozz
Jan 26, 2002



Looks like a henchman with a gun set on Batman so he can't leave.

stratdax
Sep 14, 2006


crazylakerfan posted:

Why was the other thread closed?

Because it was total poo poo, the OP was garbage, and there was no point in having it.

I personally am looking forward to even shakier shaky-cam in the movie! Hey maybe they'll develop another style of fighting for batman to use, and then shake the camera so goddamn much you don't even know if he's walking or kicking!

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TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

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Bozz posted:

Looks like a henchman with a gun set on Batman so he can't leave.

Yeah, it definitely looks like they're aiming a gun or a camera based on what little you can see.

I never used to think about stuff like this, I swear, but after years of urls being hidden in a single frame in a trailer and things like that I can't help but notice anything that seems out of place.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005
Back from the dead

Bozz posted:

Looks like a henchman with a gun set on Batman so he can't leave.

That's what it looks like to me. Batman is probably surrounded by dudes with guns so he is forced to fight Bane.

muscles like this?
Jan 17, 2005

BOGGLE?



Happy Noodle Boy posted:

I'd love to see this. And the Boba Fett movie.

Apparently Johnston helped design the Fett back when he worked at ILM.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"


Hanks Lust Cafe posted:



all aboard the bane train

This looks like some kind of trap from a Saw movie instead of anything that's supposed to be taken seriously in a Batman movie.

Jack Gladney
Aug 20, 2006

I fucking hate wheatcakes!

Jamesman posted:

This looks like some kind of trap from a Saw movie instead of anything that's supposed to be taken seriously in a Batman movie.

"Hello, Mr. Hardy. I'd like to play a game. Are you familiar with hello.jpg?"

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

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Jamesman posted:

This looks like some kind of trap from a Saw movie instead of anything that's supposed to be taken seriously in a Batman movie.

It's no weirder than a psychiatrist that runs around with a bag on his head and squirts people with fear gas. For all we know it's just a fancy oxygen mask because his lungs were horribly scarred in that burning village scene.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"


TOOT BOOT posted:

It's no weirder than a psychiatrist that runs around with a bag on his head and squirts people with fear gas. For all we know it's just a fancy oxygen mask because his lungs were horribly scarred in that burning village scene.

Edit: Deleted the reply that was here because it came off more rear end in a top hat-ish than I really intended it to be and now there's a proper response further down. Sorry Toot Boot.

Jamesman fucked around with this message at Jul 19, 2011 around 08:10

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

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Jamesman posted:

It's OK to admit he looks dumb. I'm here for you.

The very concept of Batman is either ridiculous or offensive depending on how you look at it, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying it.

Farbtoner
May 17, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Jamesman posted:

I like how much justification you have to put into it, like you're working harder to convince yourself than me that this isn't stupid.

It couldn't just be about a bag on someone's head. It's gotta be a PSYCHIASTRIST and SQUIRTING PEOPLE WITH FEAR GAS to make it sound more outlandish to compare to this simple image. Then you need to give backstory of horribly scarred lungs that require what must be a very creative oxygen mask... because that's what Bane's all about; a man who uses industrial cables for a respirator.

It's OK to admit he looks dumb. I'm here for you.

Beep boop what are these "opinions" you speak of?

I declare Bane looks dumb, it is objectively so. To question it is futile, you now have permission to admit that you were wrong.

Dan Didio
Apr 6, 2009

Should've sent a poet.

Jamesman posted:

I like how much justification you have to put into it, like you're working harder to convince yourself than me that this isn't stupid.

Literally whole swaths of scenes in Nolan's Batman series are dedicated to doing just this.

gregday
May 23, 2003


Everyone remember how we just knew Nolan would gently caress up the Joker because of casting Ledger?

Yeah just chill the gently caress out. He's got this.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"


Farbtoner posted:

Beep boop what are these "opinions" you speak of?

I declare Bane looks dumb, it is objectively so. To question it is futile, you now have permission to admit that you were wrong.

If only. Then people wouldn't have seen The Dark Knight for the heaping pile of poo poo it was instead of me standing by my lonesome.

But no, if people really think it's awesome, then fine. It just seemed like an overly defensive response, so I ribbed him with a "The lady doth protest too much" reply.

gregday posted:

Everyone remember how we just knew Nolan would gently caress up the Joker because of casting Ledger?

Yeah just chill the gently caress out. He's got this.

This defense only works if you liked Nolan's Joker.

Dan Didio posted:

Literally whole swaths of scenes in Nolan's Batman series are dedicated to doing just this.

I'd love to explore this discussion further. Can you elaborate on it please?

Red Pyramid
Apr 29, 2008


Jamesman posted:

If only. Then people wouldn't have seen The Dark Knight for the heaping pile of poo poo it was instead of me standing by my lonesome.

But no, if people really think it's awesome, then fine. It just seemed like an overly defensive response, so I ribbed him with a "The lady doth protest too much" reply.


This defense only works if you liked Nolan's Joker.


I'd love to explore this discussion further. Can you elaborate on it please?

The fact that you're a drooling Marvel fanboy doesn't color your opinion at all, I'm sure.

I understand fanboys, but fanboys of mainstream comic publishers blow me away, especially when it dupes them into making goony asses of themselves.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005


i'll show all those guys in the batman thread how dumb they are.....

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"


Red Pyramid posted:

The fact that you're a drooling Marvel fanboy doesn't color your opinion at all, I'm sure.

I understand fanboys, but fanboys of mainstream comic publishers blow me away, especially when it dupes them into making goony asses of themselves.

I don't read comics. I've really enjoyed all of Marvel's in-house films though, but to be fair, I also really enjoyed Batman Begins. I'm not going to poo poo on a comic movie because of some sort of misguided loyalty to a publisher, because I don't have any.

Sorry if I gave you that impression. The bottom line of what I was trying to convey is that I think Bane looks completely ridiculous, so that's what you should take away from my comments.

Skip My Posts posted:

i'll show all those guys in the batman thread how dumb they are.....

This isn't the Batman thread.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003

I
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Jamesman posted:

This isn't the Batman thread.
That's where you're wrong

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



Man Bane has a loving muzzle, I don't give a poo poo about anything anymore I just want to watch Musclehardy Muzzle Mouth trash some Batmen.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

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The Joker looks so awful you guys

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

Valyrian, motherfucker! Do you speak it?!

Jamesman posted:

This defense only works if you liked Nolan's Joker.

For real. I mean, it's not like Ledger's performance as the Nolanverse Joker was critically acclaimed by a large majority or like he won an osc... oh wait.

Rake Arms
Sep 15, 2007

It's just not the same without widescreen.


veonenergee posted:

For real. I mean, it's not like Ledger's performance as the Nolanverse Joker was critically acclaimed by a large majority or like he won an osc... oh wait.

He knows. And whether those are his genuine opinions or not, he also knew that stating them in the manner he did would provoke a hostile response.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

sets off a "weirdly specific fetish artwork" vibe

Jamesman posted:

If only. Then people wouldn't have seen The Dark Knight for the heaping pile of poo poo it was instead of me standing by my lonesome.

But no, if people really think it's awesome, then fine. It just seemed like an overly defensive response, so I ribbed him with a "The lady doth protest too much" reply.


This defense only works if you liked Nolan's Joker.


I'd love to explore this discussion further. Can you elaborate on it please?

Woah those sure are a lot of *words* you're posting. Detecting large quantities of "care" in this sector methinks.

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010



Shut up idiots and make a good Batman thread.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"


Rake Arms posted:

He knows. And whether those are his genuine opinions or not, he also knew that stating them in the manner he did would provoke a hostile response.

Well let's be fair here. I'm not INTENTIONALLY provoking anyone here. I will apologize for my reply to Toot Boot, because the tone didn't come out how I meant it to and ended up being more snarky than it should have, so I can see how that would incite more hostile comments.

Any other posts I made? Only if you connect them to the accidental tone of the aforementioned post and just decided I was being an rear end in a top hat regardless of what I was actually saying. I don't like how Bane looks. I didn't like The Joker. If those opinions cause someone to make hostile responses, that's on them.


I'll try to wrangle this all in now. I'm pretty negative on Nolan's take on Batman after I ended up disliking The Dark Knight, and nothing leading up to Dark Knight Rises has changed that. Looking at that picture of Bane, as I said, it looks more like a guy in a Saw movie than a Bane concept to me. Mabe in the context of the film, all that poo poo on his face will make more sense, but it's not doing anything for me at all from the teaser.

People make defenses that it's no more ridiculous than Scarecrow, or that we should have faith after what Nolan did with The Joker. My responses to those are; It is more ridiculous than Scarecrow, and I didn't like The Joker.

I look at Scarecrow from the Batman Begins trailer;



I see an intensely creepy villain. Piercing eyes staring through a worn, dirty burlap sack, shoddily sewn together with bits of straw sticking out. It's got a lot of character to me and intrigues me, and makes me think the character is going to be really loving cool (and he was). I don't see that with Bane.

I liked Joker's look too, for the most part. His look wasn't the problem. Heath Ledger wasn't really the problem. Posting a picture of The Joker or bringing up a posthumous Oscar doesn't nullify a complaint. I just didn't like the adaptation of the character and what he did throughout the movie, so I feel continuing to this thread of discussion as if it pretains to my thoughts on Bane's look just doesn't make much sense.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Greetings from Asbury Park

I think the fact that Scarecrow constantly took his mask off ruined any kind of creepy effect it had, but then again i cringe everytime i see his Joker, so it is probably just me that is weird.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

This is an emoticon superimposed on an approximation of renowned UFC-fighter Chael Sonnen's visage.
I made this myself and totally didn't scrub my chest with acetone to make more room for sharpie-art.

Also: Ultima Online!
And germany has a really nice countryside, you should see it!


veonenergee posted:

For real. I mean, it's not like Ledger's performance as the Nolanverse Joker was critically acclaimed by a large majority or like he won an osc... oh wait.

If Heath Ledger wouldn't have died his name would have been nowhere near that category.

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010



Cause they give out posthumous oscars all the time.

Lizard Combatant fucked around with this message at Jul 19, 2011 around 08:35

lomzus
Mar 18, 2009


I love that it already started that you can´t say anything bad about the new Batman movie, thats why I love this thread.

The first Amazing Spiderman trailer ...

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansi...n/news/?a=42141

lomzus fucked around with this message at Jul 19, 2011 around 09:08

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010



lomzus posted:

I love that it already started that you can´t say anything bad about the new Batman movie, thats why I love this thread.

The first Amazing Spiderman trailer ...

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansi...n/news/?a=42141

Mirror's Edge - The Movie

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Now with complementary face-buffer

Jamesman posted:

Any other posts I made? Only if you connect them to the accidental tone of the aforementioned post and just decided I was being an rear end in a top hat regardless of what I was actually saying. I don't like how Bane looks. I didn't like The Joker. If those opinions cause someone to make hostile responses, that's on them.

I liked Joker's look too, for the most part. His look wasn't the problem. Heath Ledger wasn't really the problem. Posting a picture of The Joker or bringing up a posthumous Oscar doesn't nullify a complaint. I just didn't like the adaptation of the character and what he did throughout the movie, so I feel continuing to this thread of discussion as if it pretains to my thoughts on Bane's look just doesn't make much sense.

I don't know if you need or care for my support, but to be fair Ledger's Joker and Nolan's take on him was certainly not immune to criticism.

Ledger got the nomination because he clearly put a ton of effort into his portrayal and lots of people thought he had been snubbed for his Nomination in Brokeback Mountain a few years prior--and then passed. It was out of respect for an artist who was clearly dedicated to his craft and willing to take chances and hadn't been recognized by his peers in the way many had felt he deserved.

I thought he was serviceable, but that's more because it's impossible to do a bad Joker. The character is by nature a cipher and reflection of his writer's suppressed psychopathic id, and as such there's no real way to do him "wrong."

That's why he's so popular--you can be the most awkward, gawky, ugly, maladjusted loser on earth and still pull off a great Joker and find some girl to tell you you're totally hot for doing so.

I liked that the character was purposefully low-rent and cheap to contrast Bruce's ultra-rich high-tech use, but didn't think he was all that interesting.

You knew every time he came on-screen he was going to snarl and look like a gutterrat rolled in fingerpaint and try really really hard to be incisive, as though "Why so Serious?" was truly something profound because it's simple and promotes levity for both the seriousness of the Batman character and the serious tone of the film. He was just anarchic and nihilistic. He wasn't funny, he wasn't a dark mirror of Bruce's mentality in anything other than his methodology, he was just a thug on the warpath with a unique look (that is conveniently easy to copy by every twat who fancies himself a dark prince).

Again, I ultimately appreciate Ledger's portrayal and think that he and Nolan did a lot right... the costume and low-rent approach was genius and I still think the whole "burn a guy on the pile of cash" is one of the best understated murders in memory...

..but they also did a lot that wasn't all that special to anyone familiar with the comics. Despite not liking many parts of Burton's Batman, you can at least say that Nicholson's Joker gave the impression of being unpredictable and genuinely insane and unwilling to settle into one niche--which Ledger's Joker did. He was always one shade of "I'm loving with you" or another and seemed 100% dedicated to the service of messing with others, instead of having the time of his life because it's all for him and gently caress anyone who gets in the way. Sure, he had fun but it was always in pursuit of his goals. Where's the bastard who just kills because it would be kind-of funny?

I think there was room in Nolan's portrayal of the character for more mindless anarchy humor, and he missed out on it in the interest of script economy. I'm not saying it was bad but it's not the Golden Standard that a lot of people seem convinced it is. I wouldn't even say it was a particularly revolutionary portrayal--Nolan and Ledger's Joker had such strong roots in The Killing Joke and The Dark Knight Returns that you could see the watermarks.

I think some trepidation about Bane is totally justified--although I'll be frank and say that I don't think the mask is that stupid-looking.

mind the walrus fucked around with this message at Jul 19, 2011 around 09:24

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Now with complementary face-buffer

lomzus posted:

I love that it already started that you can´t say anything bad about the new Batman movie, thats why I love this thread.

The first Amazing Spiderman trailer ...

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansi...n/news/?a=42141

I dig it, but then again my expectations are super-low.

The Mirror's Edge comparison is spot-on though. Someone clearly played that game during production.

Also glad to see the proud tradition of "Webslinging/Parkour CGI that will look really dated in 2 years" in Spider-Man films is alive and well.

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Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Nightmare fuel


Seems like they're making the spider bite origin more of a "you did this to yourself, idiot/don't mess with science" deal to be similar to Lizard's origin.

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