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gregday
May 23, 2003


They have never said Hathaway would play "Catwoman" -- only "Selina Kyle." I will be very surprised if there's a kitty suit. I think this is all we are getting. MAYBE a hood of some kind for sneaking around, but I doubt even that.

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Church
Jul 1, 2005



lomzus posted:

Catwoman



Found some other images of a stunt double riding the batpod out that shows the Selina Kyle/Catwoman costume better:





Church fucked around with this message at Aug 5, 2011 around 14:39

Tuxedo Jack
Sep 11, 2001

Hey Ma, who's that band I like? Oh yeah, Hall & Oates.


Church posted:

Found some other images of a stunt double riding the batpod out that shows the Selina Kyle/Catwoman costume better:







See, that looks pretty good, but without the hood (Jim Lee spoiled me for the rest of my life with this character, gah!) it just doesn't look right.

Church
Jul 1, 2005



Tuxedo Jack posted:

See, that looks pretty good, but without the hood (Jim Lee spoiled me for the rest of my life with this character, gah!) it just doesn't look right.

I think the belt makes it seem less like a biker outfit and more catwoman-ish. However the thing that makes me super happy is, her boots are NOT loving HEELS!


Seriously, who loving fights crime in heels...

seravid
Apr 21, 2010

Let me tell you of the world I used to know


lomzus posted:

Catwoman



Catwoman in a giant gently caress-off motorcycle, how very catwoman-y. Looking forward to the scene after this one where she robs liquor stores in broad daylight and kills every witness with an automatic shotgun. She can then hide the bodies and the loot in the bike's tires!

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

Yes join me


seravid posted:

Catwoman in a giant gently caress-off motorcycle, how very catwoman-y. Looking forward to the scene after this one where she robs liquor stores in broad daylight and kills every witness with an automatic shotgun. She can then hide the bodies and the loot in the bike's tires!

It looks like a huge battle between the police and the league of shadows. She might have stolen the bike and is going to help Batman.

Frederik
Aug 9, 2008


bobkatt013 posted:

It looks like a huge battle between the police and the league of shadows. She might have stolen the bike and is going to help Batman.

No! Seravid has seen the teaser and the pictures! He knows what happens!


His review of The Dark Knight Rises will go up in 2 hours.

gregday
May 23, 2003


seravid posted:

Catwoman in a giant gently caress-off motorcycle, how very catwoman-y. Looking forward to the scene after this one where she robs liquor stores in broad daylight and kills every witness with an automatic shotgun. She can then hide the bodies and the loot in the bike's tires!

Jesus Christ. She obviously stole the Bat-pod for a particular use. There will not be a Catcycle.

What the hell people.

Robot_Rumpus
Apr 4, 2004


gregday posted:

Jesus Christ. She obviously stole the Bat-pod for a particular use. There will not be a Catcycle.

What the hell people.

How do you know she stole anything?

seravid
Apr 21, 2010

Let me tell you of the world I used to know


Is it Bizarro day? I was just trying to be humorous (and obviously failed). That's just not what I was expecting for a first look. Bane stood on his own in that first pic, he didn't have a batarang or something in his hand. Here we don't just have Catwoman, we have Catwoman riding Batman's bike. Plus, the bike looks huge compared to her.

Though these outdoor shots look better. At least she (the stunt, I guess) looks like she could actually handle the thing.

gregday
May 23, 2003


Bane is a straight up bad dude.

Selina has always been a grey area, mostly a thorn in Batman's side. I think the idea of the first shot of Selina being that she's riding around on Batman's gently caress-awesome bike completely hilarious and in line with her character. She's kind of an rear end in a top hat.

Also I think I'm becoming numb to sarcasm from reading the SHH forums. Those people are completely nuts and won't be happy until they see Anne Hathaway with ears and a tail.

Red Pyramid
Apr 29, 2008


gregday posted:

They have never said Hathaway would play "Catwoman" -- only "Selina Kyle." I will be very surprised if there's a kitty suit. I think this is all we are getting. MAYBE a hood of some kind for sneaking around, but I doubt even that.

They also referred to Scarecrow and Two-Face pretty exclusively as "Crane" and "Harvey Dent", but we still got pretty dead on interpretations of both those characters in full supervillain mode. That's just how the villains in the Nolan movies have been treated - he seems to like using their alter-ego namees by default, and letting the goofy villain names come up organically. That's nothing new.

Church posted:

Found some other images of a stunt double riding the batpod out that shows the Selina Kyle/Catwoman costume better:


*side-pics*

Okay, these work better. The belt definitely does help make it feel more like Catwoman. I'd still like a hood, though.

EDIT: Or not. I think I'm slipping into fanboy mode. If Nolan gets the character right, that's all that matters. Stealing Batman's ride is definitely funny, and it definitely fits the character.

Red Pyramid fucked around with this message at Aug 5, 2011 around 15:29

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


The MSJ posted:

What would lead him to a life snake-themed villainy after that?

Hahaha holy poo poo I didn't make that connection until now but it makes perfect sense

gregday
May 23, 2003


Red Pyramid posted:

They also referred to Scarecrow and Two-Face pretty exclusively as "Crane" and "Harvey Dent", but we still got pretty dead on interpretations of both those characters in full supervillain mode. That's just how the villains in the Nolan movies have been treated - he seems to like using their alter-ego namees by default, and letting the goofy villain names come up organically. That's nothing new.


Okay, these work better. The belt definitely does help make it feel more like Catwoman. I'd still like a hood, though.

That's kind of what I meant. I think we are going to get a dead on portrayal of the character of Selina, just like we have with Ra's, Gordon, Dent, Joker, Crane. It's just we don't need all the goofy comic book crap to go with it. I think Selina is going to feel "feline" in the same way that Batman comes across as intimidating and Joker came across as actually literally insane and murderous. Characterization is what matters, not silly outfits and bad MEOW puns.

edit: By "feline" I mean exactly the sort of thing where she would steal his bike and ride off with a "deal with it" look on her face. All cats are assholes.

gregday fucked around with this message at Aug 5, 2011 around 15:34

seravid
Apr 21, 2010

Let me tell you of the world I used to know


gregday posted:

Also I think I'm becoming numb to sarcasm from reading the SHH forums. Those people are completely nuts and won't be happy until they see Anne Hathaway with ears and a tail.

I just went there for the first time, saw a thread where people want Timothy Dalton to play Alfred, closed the tab while laughing and crying at the same time.

Don't think I'll visit again.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


seravid posted:

I just went there for the first time, saw a thread where people want Timothy Dalton to play Alfred, closed the tab while laughing and crying at the same time.

Don't think I'll visit again.

I love Michael Caine as much as anyone else but I would love to see this just for the sheer insanity of it.

gregday
May 23, 2003


We are talking about a group of people who think the Batman: Dead End fan film is the high water mark to hit.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your Mother!


gregday posted:

We are talking about a group of people who think the Batman: Dead End fan film is the high water mark to hit.

Oh, God, was that the Batman vs. Aliens vs. Predators thing with Walter Koenig's son as a screechy, jabbering Joker?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

God damn it get a new avatar already.

Tuxedo Jack posted:

The JLA vs Avengers books were incredibly unsatisfying to me. For the record, despite how it turned out there, I verily believe that Thor would destroy the Boyscout in a matter of seconds. Magic Hammer. End of story.

That's not how it works. Just because it's magic doesn't mean Superman curls up and rolls over. He's just not invulnerable to it. So it's just a big dude hitting him with a big hammer, he can still dodge and deflect at super speed, plus his strength is something like 10 times Thor's.

gregday
May 23, 2003


Timby posted:

Oh, God, was that the Batman vs. Aliens vs. Predators thing with Walter Koenig's son as a screechy, jabbering Joker?

Yes, but in it Batman wore a spandex costume therefore it is the superior film ( )

Tuxedo Jack
Sep 11, 2001

Hey Ma, who's that band I like? Oh yeah, Hall & Oates.


Rhyno posted:

That's not how it works. Just because it's magic doesn't mean Superman curls up and rolls over. He's just not invulnerable to it. So it's just a big dude hitting him with a big hammer, he can still dodge and deflect at super speed, plus his strength is something like 10 times Thor's.

This is the most conversation we could have, however, I believe Thor would come out on top. Even if Superman's strength is 10x that of Thor, all Thor has to get is one good hit in with Mjolnir, and Supes is unconscious/dead. Assuming of course that Superman's lack of invulnerability means that the hammer would hit him with the same force it would hit your or I, then on top of that add in the fact that the hammer is wielded by a God's strength. I mean, Superman punches Thor a thousand times at superspeed, Thor cracks him with a bolt of lighting, swings once - game over.

Now there's a movie we will never see. I was ultimately disappointed in the JLA/Avengers crossover because everyone knew they'd just end up teaming up in the end, and that's exactly what happened. It wasn't particularly interesting and basically non-canon so the book never really "mattered."

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

Yes join me


It was made cannon as the egg later appeared in JLA, however it is now non canon along with every other JLA story. Also the story did not matter as it was mostly an excuse to see the team up and Perez draw every avenger and JLA member.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

9CL BRONY SPOTTED


gregday posted:

We are talking about a group of people who think the Batman: Dead End fan film is the high water mark to hit.

I confused this with another fan film, The Death of Batman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...d&v=QUAXIMoZuBM

Timby posted:

Oh, God, was that the Batman vs. Aliens vs. Predators thing with Walter Koenig's son as a screechy, jabbering Joker?

Isn't this an actual comic?

The MSJ fucked around with this message at Aug 6, 2011 around 01:59

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your Mother!


The MSJ posted:

I confused this with another fan film, The Death of Batman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...d&v=QUAXIMoZuBM

Did ... did I just see Batman get prison-raped?

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006



Timby posted:

Did ... did I just see Batman get prison-raped?
Yup. That link should actually be NWS-ed because it is pretty hosed up.

As goofy and poorly made as Dead End is, I do like their Batman outfit. The cowl is pretty cool looking.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn 2012
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

The MSJ posted:

I confused this with another fan film, The Death of Batman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...d&v=QUAXIMoZuBM

...why would you link something like that? Why did I watch that?

Yonic Symbolism
Nov 10, 2008



Why does catwoman absolutely HAVE to have cat ears. Cat ears are stupid.

I bet people will be offended if she doesn't constantly meow, make cat puns, or own a shitload of cats?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


Yonic Symbolism posted:

Why does catwoman absolutely HAVE to have cat ears. Cat ears are stupid.

Batman's got bat ears. Catwoman's gotta have cat ears.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Distrusting me was the wisest thing you've done.

Tuxedo Jack posted:

This is the most conversation we could have, however, I believe Thor would come out on top. Even if Superman's strength is 10x that of Thor, all Thor has to get is one good hit in with Mjolnir, and Supes is unconscious/dead. Assuming of course that Superman's lack of invulnerability means that the hammer would hit him with the same force it would hit your or I, then on top of that add in the fact that the hammer is wielded by a God's strength. I mean, Superman punches Thor a thousand times at superspeed, Thor cracks him with a bolt of lighting, swings once - game over.

Now there's a movie we will never see. I was ultimately disappointed in the JLA/Avengers crossover because everyone knew they'd just end up teaming up in the end, and that's exactly what happened. It wasn't particularly interesting and basically non-canon so the book never really "mattered."

I'm tying this silly discussion into a point about the films.

Superman moves (as in reactions, etc., not just flight) somewhere near the speed of light. He can do complex actions, like, changing clothes for instance, instantly, because of how insanely quickly he moves. Writers often forget/don't use this because it takes so much drama away from action scenes (the same problem that writers have with The Flash).

Thor, on the other hand, is written to move very, very quickly, somewhere around Spider-man speed, while he can fly with his hammer at FTL speeds (flight speed is like flying a jet or something in comics terms). Spider-man is quick enough to dance around bullets and normal people move in slow motion to him. But that's literally thousands of times less fast than someone like Superman.

What that means is that Superman would be able to punch someone like Thor 1000 times before they even knew a punch was being thrown. And when Thor swung his hammer, it would move like a statue to Superman, and he'd have no problem dodging it. It's really a no-contest.

I'm tying this into the films, because, this is one thing that I'd like to see explored more in Superhero films that almost never gets shown at all - the idea that these characters are blurs to normal people. They focus so much on making characters strong that they forget about the whole "speed" thing. Rarely do moves pay any attention to this - Spider-man did it at the beginning of the movie (with the Flash Thompson punch) and then completely forgot about it for the rest of the series (well, it never really came into play outside of explaining why he moved so quickly). Even Superman 4 had Clark in two places at once in a horrible sequence, but I don't remember quickness coming into play at all in Returns. Daredevil at least dodged some bullets or something.

That's the one thing that Smallville got right (sometimes). Clark used speed more than anything. I hope this movie keeps Superman's insane speed, as that' something a little more rare to see in superhero films.

Farbtoner
May 17, 2011

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Darko posted:

I'm tying this into the films, because, this is one thing that I'd like to see explored more in Superhero films that almost never gets shown at all - the idea that these characters are blurs to normal people. They focus so much on making characters strong that they forget about the whole "speed" thing. Rarely do moves pay any attention to this - Spider-man did it at the beginning of the movie (with the Flash Thompson punch) and then completely forgot about it for the rest of the series (well, it never really came into play outside of explaining why he moved so quickly). Even Superman 4 had Clark in two places at once in a horrible sequence, but I don't remember quickness coming into play at all in Returns. Daredevil at least dodged some bullets or something.

This is yet another reason why Megamind is great.

Rocket Ace
Aug 11, 2006

R.I.P. Dave Stevens

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Batman's got bat ears. Catwoman's gotta have cat ears.

They SORT of rationalized the bat ears in Begins, though.

Before his costume was complete, there was a scene in which we see him wearing some kind of ear piece with a tall antennae for listening in on people from a distance, and there's a weird static-y sound interfering. Then we see him pull up his coat over the antennae and the interference stops.

So in the Nolan-verse the bat ears are eavesdropping technology that conveniently make his mask look appropriately bat-like.

What would Catwoman's excuse be? The same thing, maybe? Why not, I guess.

Hilarion
Mar 23, 2008

This is the Dawning of the Age of Hilarious


Darko posted:



I'm tying this into the films, because, this is one thing that I'd like to see explored more in Superhero films that almost never gets shown at all - the idea that these characters are blurs to normal people. They focus so much on making characters strong that they forget about the whole "speed" thing. Rarely do moves pay any attention to this - Spider-man did it at the beginning of the movie (with the Flash Thompson punch) and then completely forgot about it for the rest of the series (well, it never really came into play outside of explaining why he moved so quickly). Even Superman 4 had Clark in two places at once in a horrible sequence, but I don't remember quickness coming into play at all in Returns. Daredevil at least dodged some bullets or something.



What about when he swoops in as the gatling gun starts to revolve and gets in between the gunfire and that security guard on the roof? That was pretty fast.

Deadpool
Apr 28, 2002

Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."



Rocket Ace posted:

They SORT of rationalized the bat ears in Begins, though.

Before his costume was complete, there was a scene in which we see him wearing some kind of ear piece with a tall antennae for listening in on people from a distance, and there's a weird static-y sound interfering. Then we see him pull up his coat over the antennae and the interference stops.

So in the Nolan-verse the bat ears are eavesdropping technology that conveniently make his mask look appropriately bat-like.

What would Catwoman's excuse be? The same thing, maybe? Why not, I guess.

So what's the excuse for a domino mask instead of one that actually conceals your face?

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003

I
ANALYZE
CARTOONS


If it upsets you that she doesn't have cat ears, tell yourself that she'll get them later in the movie.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


Rocket Ace posted:

They SORT of rationalized the bat ears in Begins, though.

Before his costume was complete, there was a scene in which we see him wearing some kind of ear piece with a tall antennae for listening in on people from a distance, and there's a weird static-y sound interfering. Then we see him pull up his coat over the antennae and the interference stops.

So in the Nolan-verse the bat ears are eavesdropping technology that conveniently make his mask look appropriately bat-like.

What would Catwoman's excuse be? The same thing, maybe? Why not, I guess.

The rationale is that his name is Batman. Anything else is stupid. Function follows form.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Nightmare fuel


Darko posted:

They focus so much on making characters strong that they forget about the whole "speed" thing. Rarely do moves pay any attention to this - Spider-man did it at the beginning of the movie (with the Flash Thompson punch) and then completely forgot about it for the rest of the series (well, it never really came into play outside of explaining why he moved so quickly).

Not sure about the rest of the series, but Spider-Man dodging the razor bats in the apartment was so speedy they put it in slow motion so that it wouldn't look like a two-second spastic, twisting blur.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


Farbtoner posted:

This is yet another reason why Megamind is great.

Man I was so loving surprised at how much I enjoyed that movie. Ignoring the obligatory "now everyone dances" Dreamworks ending, it was a really funny movie.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

God damn it get a new avatar already.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

The rationale is that his name is Batman. Anything else is stupid. Function follows form.

Exactly. He pulls the coat over the earpiece so he doesn't draw attention to himself.

Strange Matter
Oct 5, 2009

Ask me about Genocide


Crossposting from TFF:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11217/1165434-100.stm

quote:

Batman, meet Big Ben.

The new labor agreement in the NFL banned teams from practicing twice a day but it says nothing about Ben Roethlisberger and his Steelers teammates practicing for good old "Gotham" on the set of the new Batman movie Saturday morning.

Roethlisberger and about a dozen of his veteran teammates will take part in the filming of Dark Knight Rises playing -- what else? -- football players at a familiar venue for them, Heinz Field. The production, which has been filming in Pittsburgh, moves Saturday morning to the Steelers home, where thousands of extras playing fans have been recruited. The Steelers will return to Saint Vincent College in Latrobe for a real football practice under the direction of coach Mike Tomlin Saturday afternoon.

The Steelers quarterback has become close with Thomas Tull, the film's executive producer who joined the Steelers ownership group two years ago. Tull helped influence the shooting of the movie in Pittsburgh and he's been trying to get the Steelers involved. Chrstopher Nolan is directing the third in his Batman trilogy. The movie stars Christian Bale as Batman and Anne Hathaway as Catwoman.

"I'm kind of getting everybody together," Roethlisberger told the Post-Gazette today. "I heard it's going to be a neat thing at the stadium. I don't think it will be a big part, it's not like we're chasing Batman down or anyting. It's something neat that in 10 years or 20 years we can tell our kids we were in a movie. Thomas does movies big and I'm sure it will be a big-time movie and something fun to be part of."

Among teammates expected to join him are Hines Ward, Willie Colon, Maurkice Pouncey, Mike Wallace, Heath Miller, Aaron Smith, Ryan Clark, Troy Polamalu, James Farrior and Casey Hampton.

There will be an early call for the football-playing actors -- they must be on the set, which is closed to the public, by 7 a.m. Saturday, and this after tonight's practice in Latrobe.

"From what I've heard, it's going to be like a pre-game, warming-up type thing,'' Roethlisberger said of the Steelers' roles. "I don't know the whole concept. There's a Gotham team, a football game. We'll be wearing uniforms. It will be fun."

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Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


Should have been the Browns.

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