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Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



TheJoker138 posted:

Not only that, but Spidey is two weeks before Batman. One of those movies is going to end up throttling the other one to death at the box office.

Batman will most likely win at the Box Office. and all. Unless he messes up the movie.

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Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



Evil Vin posted:

There's a rather thin line with the character I guess every scene has to be Spider-Man's Mary Jane or the train type choice. I'm thinking they have to show how awesome he is but I just remember how BORING Superman Returns plane scene was, him carrying the island, or pretty much anything in the movie.

At least with Zodd he should be given a good few fights and excuses to show off. I'd love to see some type of fight like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoJ2Bd41zsw

Eh that looks like a normal battle in DragonBall Z.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



Spacebump posted:

A mask could be explained as bullet proofing his head.

Villains never shoot at the head.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



mind the walrus posted:

You want to bitch about him not fighting Nazis? HE DID FIGHT NAZIS! Just not the Nazis. He fought a comically exaggerated dark science division of Nazis that splintered off from the Nazis. Besides which, given how the movie is meant to be uplifting summer popcorn fun would you really want to see dozens of Nazis and remember in sharp relief all the atrocities of WWII, or does it make more sense to utilize Marvel's history that softens the brutal realities of WWII in order to tell a story.

You raise some good points, but this part is plain rubbish.

Nobody takes nazis serious in movies, unless you going the Shindler's List route. Nazis in movies are always silly villains, so why can't they be featured in a silly Super Hero Comic Book movie? Inglorious Basterds had a camp Hitler and Goebbels. gently caress, the Rocketeer had Nazi villains. Indiana Jones had Nazi's has villains. Hell in the last 20 years you had tons and tons of video games featured in WW2. Some of them even included Hitler in a Mech suit. Nobody goes into fits of rage or depression when they see Nazi storm troopers in an action movie.

This movie is set in WW2, have some nazis running around so they can get punched by Captain America. Then have the nazis roll out Hydra to stop getting punched by Captain America. No need to forget a crucial part of history to tell a story.

You are already "softening the brutal reality" of WW2 when you roll out Nazis has punching bags. You turn them into an "object" of mockery and parody. Mel Brooks knew this 50 years ago, when he made a movie in which it's central piece is a gay musical about Hitler.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



Rake Arms posted:

Catwoman has her own BatCatpod, Bane has his own Tumbler. Does everybody but loving Batman get to drive all of Batman's stuff now? Where's my Batmobile?

Guess they found the place where he gets all those wonderful toys.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



Adrianics posted:

Yeah, you're all right. This sort of thing does seem somewhat inevitable, and I'm not engaging my logic enough.

I think actually I'm more surprised at how lax WB have been, would've expected all the DKR footage to be taken down from Youtube, etc almost immediately.

Free publicity!

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



Tuxedo Jack posted:

Was TDK Nolan's first foray into IMAX, I wonder? The scenes he shot in IMAX (most notably the few cuts from the Hospital explosion, the chase scene on Lower 5th and Joker's reaction shot just before being thrown off the Pruett building) looked phenomenal, and made the scenes in between look somewhat meh...

Yes, there is something close to 30 minutes of IMAX footage, and it was also the first movie using IMAX to be nominated for an Oscar. Nolan also broke one of the very expensive, and at the time rare, IMAX camera during the chase scene with the Swat truck.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



Rocket Ace posted:

Even though I could just google it, it may actually change the subject so I'll ask it here anyway.

Any plans for another Hellboy movie?

Boy I'd love it if they based the story on one of the comics. The Conqueror Worm would be pretty boss. I mean, Lobster Johnson. C'mon. That would be pretty great, wouldn't it be?

I don't think there is going to be one.

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/117/1177172p1.html

Unless they reboot the series with another director and cast.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



Rocket Ace posted:

The Indiana Jones movies were PG-13 as well, and they had GREAT fight and action scenes.

All three of them... yeah that's right.

If Raiders of the Lost Ark with a PG-13 rating, were to be made today it would never had face melting Nazis.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



Lobok posted:

Is the face melting all that worse than Harvey Dent missing half of his face? Rhetorical since you're not on the MPAA but I wonder.

It's a good question. I would say that the face melting is worse than Two Face, just because the end result is a very horrifying and graphic death and more than just the facemelting you also have people screaming in agony, while Two Face burned face is just a very graphic injury.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



TheJoker138 posted:

Does this have some significance that I'm missing?

Well in 1986 the first issue of The Dark Knight Returns was released. So I guess there's that. vv

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



arioch posted:

For maximum nerd angst, have Alfred then give his speech about failing at protecting and taking care of Bruce Wayne, then go out Commando style and shoot Bane.

SO all this time this Batman films were just an elaborate remake of Get Carter?

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Yeah I was going to say him too but aside from Silver Surfer and Abe Sapien I can't recall what else he's done.

He was also the Fauno and the Pale Man in Pan's Labyrinth, and that weird angel in Hellboy 2.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



TheJoker138 posted:

You know why a lot of people aren't responding to these? First off it's because you're taking things that are more of guidelines than rules as being set in stone. The 180 rule discussion earlier for instance is something they teach you in film school but isn't actually always followed by any actual director. It's one of those rules that you have to know, but when you do know and understand it, you can certainly break if it you need to. And second, because 99% of the film going audience doesn't give a poo poo about lighting, point of focus, the 180 degree rule, etc. They may pick up on it subconsciously, but thanks to things like found footage movies, youtube, quick cut style editing, etc. it's becoming less and less important for films to follow these rules and still have people be able to follow them. It's simply not important to the vast majority of people, and that includes people in this thread.

Those are not rules, those are filmmaking techniques. Techniques if used to great and clear effect, enhance the quality of the film greatly. It's what separates The Dark Knight from these Marvel films.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



TheJoker138 posted:

Should I post that half hour long video some guy did about the chase scene in The Dark Knight and how it breaks almost every single one of the same rules people are bitching about The Avengers breaking?

Sure why not. I don't see them as rules, I just see a director, Chistopher Nolan, using a bunch of techniques to great effect and meaning.(even if he is subverting them) That chase scene alone was a lot better than everything I have seen so far in the Marvel films, action wise.

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Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011



TheJoker138 posted:

http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/wa...he-dark-knight/

Is it possible that, much like the guy who took the chase scene out of context and ripped it down, totally ignoring any context that that scene may have had in the movie, and whether or not it actually worked as a piece of a whole, that people in this thread are taking things out of context and ripping them down, when they'll work in the full film?

Thanks for the link, that was quite interesting. I do find that the chase works fine, even though he presents some valid issues, but he did point briefly on something that I find important in the whole of the scene, is that the energy bounces from scene to scene. It's constantly moving creating a clear and engaging beat, even if spatial awareness might be thrown off. It has a very personal style and voice.

Edit: As to actually answer your question, yeah probably.

Electronico6 fucked around with this message at Apr 14, 2012 around 20:34

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