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I just finished ADWD, sorry if this topic has been done to death already but I don't really feel like reading 100 pages here to get the general consensus. I thought this was easily the worst book of the series so far. I think ADWD and AFFC could easily have been combined into one pretty good book if you chopped out all the repetition and uninteresting POVs (does anyone really give two shits what any of the ironborn are doing or what Areo Hotah thinks about things?).
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Aug 22, 2011 18:52
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Quantify! posted:If you cut out all the ironborn except Victarion (and Theon if he counts) Things Would Be Better. Yeah Victarion's weren't so bad. Theon I could do without.
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Aug 22, 2011 19:17
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Is there evidence of any of the gods actually providing magical powers except for R'hllor?
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Aug 22, 2011 19:47
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Mahlertov Cocktail posted:The thing that annoyed me about the Daario stuff in Dance (apart from it being way more boring than Dany the Conqueror from Storm of Swords) is that I thought it came out of nowhere, but while rereading Storm she does express attraction to him, so I guess it was there. Ah well, hopefully it'll be over with in Winds of Winter (if it comes out) when she comes back to Meereen with a khalasar and trained dragon to burn the place to the ground. (I CAN DREAM, OKAY.) In my fan fiction fantasy, Dany T and her dragons render everything east of the narrow sea into smoldering rubble. edit: everything except Strong Belwas. Ross fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Aug 22, 2011 |
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Aug 22, 2011 20:06
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Mayhaps I also suck at reading but I honestly haven't picked up on any of these characters being gay. Connington maybe if you really want to perceive him as a gay character, but I can't remember reading a single passage that made me think Renly/Loras/Blackfish/D.Edd are gay.
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Aug 23, 2011 02:08
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Caufman posted:The biggest thing I missed was that Lysa killed Jon Arryn. She loving says it outright, but at that point I was just skimming through her madness. Yes, Littlefinger convinced her to do it, right? I got lost in the whole explanation behind who sent the assassin to kill Bran. Can anyone sum that up?
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Aug 23, 2011 02:21
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Have they said much about what season 2 of the show will cover? ACoK is a fine book but I have a hard time seeing it being an interesting/exciting television series. I also have a hard time seeing ACoK and ASoS merged into one season without leaving a ton of stuff out.
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Aug 23, 2011 03:26
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Ned Stark never said he liked women ergo I surmize he is bi if not outright 100% a gay. vv Unzip I think you quoted the wrong post there Ross fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Aug 23, 2011 |
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Aug 23, 2011 04:23
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Vivek posted:I'm so glad that someone else calls him J-Con. I do not think so. Every other Victarion page is about him savagely humping the Dusky Woman or whatever her name is.
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Aug 24, 2011 03:32
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Does book numero 6 have anything remotely resembling a release date? Am I going to have to wait until 2015? The blu-ray of Season 1 and then Season 2 can presumably tide me over for a couple years but I don't know if I can wait much longer than that.
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Aug 24, 2011 03:45
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Quantify! posted:That's the greatest scene, because it shows that Jon has become a true Stark and Ned did make a difference for him. Yes, probably my favorite scene in the series so far.
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Aug 24, 2011 16:44
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If anyone is looking for something to read in the meantime, I highly recommend "I, Claudius". It's kind of like a whole book written in first person by Tyrion.
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Aug 24, 2011 20:47
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UR1S posted:Also, to take the rule to its most extreme conclusion, since they never died in view of the reader, I'm on the fence if Pretty Pig and Crunch are really dead. I could go either way on them getting a happy ending. There are two characters who must survive the remaining books in order for me to not hate this series: - Strong Belwas - Pretty Pig For above: ADWD is only terrible if you waited five years and this was the payoff. As an entry in this particular series it's not one of the better books (I'd rank it as the worst so far, personally). As an entry in the genre and a piece of entertaining reading in general, it's not bad at all. Ross fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Aug 25, 2011 |
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Aug 25, 2011 19:33
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xamphear posted:I knoooooooow! Oh ho ho! I think Hot Pie already died 
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Aug 25, 2011 19:58
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Ned Stark will get resurrected via some greenseer trickery and immediately killed again.
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Aug 25, 2011 23:31
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Desumaytah posted:At the moment of his execution, Ned Stark warged into Pretty Pig/Drogon/That bastard cat that Arya chased around in the first book. I pretty much hate Bran chapters, he's just such a boring character with no personality (so much so that he has to be given super-powers to make his chapters interesting).
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Aug 26, 2011 00:47
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Dragon riders are Dany Aegon and Pretty Pig next topic please.
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Aug 27, 2011 03:43
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OperaMouse posted:Theory: with Pycelle dead, the Citadel has to elect (or however it works) a new GrandMaester. Guess whose identity Pate/Jaqen will take next... Yes, if I remember right, one of the consolations the producers of the show got from him was he had to share with them the major aspects of how the story will end, so they had (1) something to build towards with the character development within and over multiple seasons and (2) a safeguard against GRRM kicking the bucket before the books are finished, leaving the series in limbo. So he does for sure have an end in sight.
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Aug 27, 2011 17:14
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Mr.Brinks posted:But dude, think of the suspense and mystery! ...for four to five years  To the guy asking about R+L, yes, it stands for Rhaegar + Lyanna. The poster before you was describing his initial confusion in regards to it. Also not sure why anyone wants Tyrion to be a dragon rider, that would be ridiculously stupid.
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Aug 29, 2011 21:06
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Habibi posted:I started reading the series just before book 9 was released, so read 7-9 in a row, and unfortunately I can't agree with anything in this paragraph except for how difficult it was to stomach his turns of phrase. I got partway through book...6, I think (whichever one is after The Fires of Heaven, which is the best title in the genre ever fyi) before losing interest in the series. I'm tempted to pick it up again from the start to have something to tide me over until TWOW. Ross fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Aug 30, 2011 |
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Aug 30, 2011 17:25
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I hope at least one of Jon and Stannis are actually dead just because pulling the "Aha! He's not really dead!" fliparoo twice in one chapter is kind of lame. Does it bother anyone else's OC-ness that the next book starts with "The" and all the others start with "A"? =\ Ross fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Aug 31, 2011 |
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Aug 31, 2011 01:46
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If Dany never actually goes to Westeros with at least one dragon to fry at least one Lannister I'm going to be very upset. It will be like a seven-book-long extended version of Quentyn Martell's plotline.
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Sep 1, 2011 18:54
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Quantify! posted:Please spell all ridiculous make believe terms correctly or you might confuse people who wander into this thread and haven't read the books Here is a helpful summary for those folks: Book 1 Ned Stark dies Book 2 A cock Book 3 Robb Stark dies Book 4 skip Book 5 skip I am re-reading book 1 now and am enjoying the initial chapters a lot more than I did during my first read-thru. It helps a lot knowing who all these people are that keep getting referenced. The first time there was a lot of looking up stuff in the back to remember or find out who this person was and how (s)he related to the character mentioning him/her.
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Sep 2, 2011 16:48
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I abhor the prospect of a real-life cyvasse game only because it gives GRRM yet another endeavor to waste his time on other than writing the next book.
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Sep 2, 2011 19:01
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Ecco the Dolphin posted:How much time is actually supposed to have passed by the end of ADwD anyway? There's never really any concrete number given, which is probably intentional. It's gotta be at least 2-3 years, just based on the amount of time people spend traveling. Never really thought about this actually but I would guess about 2 years as well.
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Sep 4, 2011 13:42
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Not gonna have to worry about replacing Robb's actor too much longer 
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Sep 4, 2011 22:40
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If I call enough people in this thread misogynists will it get me laid?
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Sep 5, 2011 20:08
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bigmcgaffney posted:Dany's massive period at the end of ADWD. I thought I was the only one who noticed this. This means her womb can "quicken" again, ergo Zombie Khal Drogo is coming back in the next book to seriously roll some bitches.
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Sep 7, 2011 03:17
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George's own website still says that ADWD is "forthcoming". Maybe this is all a clever ploy!
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Sep 9, 2011 01:01
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HBO unlike the major broadcast networks typically does just one season per calendar year (if that) and I can't really see the show lasting 7+ years. The first season was great but at the moment I'm not sure it will have Sopranos-like staying power. Rome and Deadwood were fantastic shows too and only had brief runs (although Rome and all its character arcs had pretty much run their course after two seasons; not sure what a third season would even be about).
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Sep 9, 2011 02:18
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syndex posted:Rome was supposed to be 5 seasons long. The second was going to end with the death of Brutus. Third and fourth season would be set in Egypt. Fifth was going to be the rise of the messiah in Palestine. They crammed everything into the second season when they got told that would be it. HBO/BBC are making a new mini-series right now on Robert Graves's I, Claudius and its sequel, which timeline-wise are essentially a Rome sequel.
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Sep 9, 2011 11:57
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Despite how well liked he is around here, I suspect any theory with Delorous Edd playing a central role is unlikely to come about.
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Sep 12, 2011 21:24
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keyframe posted:
A Game of Thrones - 1996 A Clash of Kings - 1998 A Storm of Swords - 2000 A Feast for Crows - 2005 A Dance with Dragons - 2011 GRRM has said he's written ~100 pages of the next one (The Winds of Winter at the moment) from stuff that was cut out of book 5, and won't even start writing the rest of book 6 until next year. The shortest time between book publications so far has been two years and that was when he was basically writing straight through with no breaks, so I don't think there's any way you're seeing book 6 until at least early 2014 . I would say 2015-ish with the pace / motivation he's shown lately. This is assuming there's not another six-year gap while they decide how to wring four more best-sellers out of this series instead of two.
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Sep 13, 2011 02:34
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My gut feeling is actually that Cercei will live but end up in some miserable state of affairs.
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Sep 14, 2011 00:54
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He means Aegon, the dude that was milling around with Jon Connington pretending to be a mercenary's son (but is really a SECRET TARG).
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Sep 14, 2011 01:16
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It is at least better than Wheel of Time where nearly every chapter is "Men are like this  but Women are like this  "
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Sep 16, 2011 01:22
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the kawaiiest posted:Well yeah but what isn't better than Wheel of Time though? I think the current consensus is that immediately prior to being hanged ("Brienne said a word"), she told Zombie Catelyn Stark that she would capture Jaime Lannister for her and was released to go do so. edit: Also Brienne is Azor Ahai or whoever! Ross fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Sep 16, 2011 |
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Sep 16, 2011 02:28
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the kawaiiest posted:Yeah that makes sense. I really hope she's still alive because she's one of my favorite characters. Oh she's definitely alive, she appears alive explicitly after the "hanging".
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Ambiguatron posted:No, Jaime is going to kill Brienne by plunging his sword into her heart. He will then pick up Oathkeeper, a red blade. He's already been reborn among smoke and salt (the blood and smoke from the fire when his hand was severed and the wound cauterized) and woken dragons out of stone (when he got an erection over Brienne, which was previously about as likely as a statue coming to life). Holy poo poo
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