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xutech posted:I don't believe there's any reason to support the idea of cyberware affecting a person's humanity / requiring a dangerous anti-rejection drug. I can imagine them needing some kind of costly upkeep. The larger point isn't so much the specific cost, but that once half your arm or eye or whatever is artificial, your choice is to continue paying out the rear end for whatever maintenance is required or letting substantial parts of your body fail. This isn't sci-fi, this happens today when people don't have the money for hospital bills, except now you are paying for a service that general medicine and health legislation hasn't caught up to, and your insurance plan (if you have one) isn't likely to cover.
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Eponymous posted:...You realize you're talking to a forum full of nerds here, right? New Updates Found: Robot Dance. Would you like to install (y/n) it'd be worth it for this alone.
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 17:21 |
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With cyborg legs, think of all the money you could save on shoes.
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coyo7e posted:I don't think robot legs are very sexy though... It all depends on design  ...and personal taste I guess.Edit: Also, augmented legs (and everything else for that matter) can be perfect. Maybe not in function but at least in shape and form. Perfect. Jack Trades fucked around with this message at Jul 21, 2011 around 17:53 |
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The robot legs would need to look human for me. And i'll stop there, I don't want to contribute to what is probably going to be a creepy conversation (too late).
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coyo7e posted:...while I'm going down on a woman... As goons, we never, ever have to worry about this. 
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 18:08 |
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Malrauxs Place posted:What kind of bugs me about the way augmentation has been portrayed in the trailers so far is that I really don't see the motivation a person outside of the military or law enforcement could have for getting, say, robot legs or arms. What would you use these for? There's probably a huge market towards people that have lost function of limbs, or lost limbs entirely either due to deforminities, freak accidents, etc.
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xutech posted:I don't believe there's any reason to support the idea of cyberware affecting a person's humanity / requiring a dangerous anti-rejection drug. Actually, the idea of neural rejection is a very real phenomenon that's seen today, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroni...de_implantation and drugs to address these have similar side effects. Also, of course, the dependence on a dangerous drug may also partially a result of a an in-universe conspiracy trying to control people (like most DX conspiracies), so there is that, too. Also, in regards to the augmentation affecting employment thing, it seems like in the DX:HR world neural implants of various kinds are becoming popular - for instance, cognitive boosts or cranial computer interfaces, and even your pilot Malik has reflex and piloting augs to improve her performance. I can easily imagine having such augs becoming necessary even for skilled white collar jobs assuming giant corporations want to create more income inequality and squeeze more profit by demanding ever greater increases in individual productivity so they can continue to lay off their workforce. Honestly, this is what's currently happening now in the real world - employers want to extract maximum effort from an individual until the stress makes them quit or too sick to work, then you hire someone else while the previous worker suffers the long-term health consequences (Jack Welch once said of employees that there's "unlimited juice in a lemon" if you squeeze hard enough). Visually, though, you would have to show this concept with the more overt body limb replacements and the like. Even today, there's been security issues raised about things like possible backdoor vulnerabilities intentionally added to technology manufactured overseas. Imagine how much scarier it would be for the possibility that a megacorp or a foreign power could turn off or hack parts of your brain or body, which you are required to have in order to find decent work.
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So this Pre-Order business. Is the tactical enhancement pack not available in Europe? Also I've never pre-ordered from amazon, do they usually mention the bonuses on the web page? And Finally, are the pre-order bonus weapons not going to be included in the game or does the pre-order just unlock them when you start the game?
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Sorry boss, I'm going to be late this morning. I can't get out of bed on account my new legs are still downloading the latest OS and Safari.
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 18:46 |
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:There's probably a huge market towards people that have lost function of limbs, or lost limbs entirely either due to deforminities, freak accidents, etc. Yes, I should have said "outside of people in the military, law enforcement and those whose original fleshlimbs don't work anymore". The latter isn't what all these ominous trailers are about though. On the topic of robolegs, they actually seem kinda neat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ0iMulicgg On a (marginally) less nerdy note, I've just reinstalled the original Deus Ex. Maybe I can force myself to suffer through Liberty Island this time.
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http://www.sarifindustries.com/ is down for me. Perhaps those P1st ninjas have finally struck a blow for The Natural Man!!!! Hmm, are there any Purity First websites? Malrauxs Place posted:On the topic of robolegs, they actually seem kinda neat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ0iMulicgg While I know it's not the same thing, something about this girl and her legs bugs me. Also, it's weird that there's no such hybrid allinonet leg that will perform all three functions of Running, Standing and Walking. I'm guessing it's due to the loss of an articulated foot? Neosuki fucked around with this message at Jul 21, 2011 around 20:29 |
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Neosuki posted:http://www.sarifindustries.com/ is down for me. Probably because they accidentally released the PF stuff earlier than intended. This post sent from My Legs
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 20:24 |
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Prosphetics fascinate me, because I do think we'll eventually use them to augment and improve our natural body. With microchips getting smaller and smaller its only inevitable that we'll start looking toward creating internal augmentations and improvements. I don't think we're quite at the stage of development of cyberbrain's, but we're certainly getting closer to the stage of creating natural robotics that are as functional, if not more, as a normal limb.
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 20:43 |
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I can't wait for a third (and fourth) arm, tbh. It'd make so many projects so much simpler.
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 20:44 |
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Here we go.  I've found a Lazarus message so far!  Let the searching begin! http://www.sarifindustries.com/ edit: Looks like it's still going up and down. Tecman fucked around with this message at Jul 21, 2011 around 20:48 |
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coyo7e posted:I can't wait for a third (and fourth) arm, tbh. It'd make so many projects so much simpler. The day they invent commercial Doc Ock-esque spider limbs is the day I bankrupt myself to have them.
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Jack Trades posted:It all depends on design Tell us more about how you want to have sex with robots
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 20:46 |
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coyo7e posted:I can't wait for a third (and fourth) arm, tbh. It'd make so many projects so much simpler. You are not thinking about the possibilities! Imagine, a thousand augmented breasts, adaptable to any size!
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WMain00 posted:You are not thinking about the possibilities! 
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The reason people are rejecting the augmentations so much isn't just due to them literally making people superior human beings. It's due to the cost, as only the wealthy and fortunate can afford to both have limbs that aren't outdated and get neuropozene, and for some of them, that ties into the control issue. You get a neural implant? Congrats, corporations and governments can now monitor you. Like the short movie earlier said, they can shut down your eyes, your implants, everything if they want to. And as you find out in the first level after Adam is augmented you may even lose control of your own body. Just a fleshpuppet with a USB port. So, if everyone could get augmentations and neuropozene was obsolete, less people would be objecting to it. If your body didn't reject your eye augs, causing you to leak blood and pus out of your eye sockets, more people would be willing to accept it. If neuropozene payments didn't put people on the street, where they then go on to bleed out of aforementioned cavities, receive extensive nerve damage, and lose control of their own bodies, it would be less opposed.
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Pretentious Turtle posted:The reason people are rejecting the augmentations so much isn't just due to them literally making people superior human beings. It's due to the cost, as only the wealthy and fortunate can afford to both have limbs that aren't outdated and get neuropozene, and for some of them, that ties into the control issue. You get a neural implant? Congrats, corporations and governments can now monitor you. Like the short movie earlier said, they can shut down your eyes, your implants, everything if they want to. And as you find out in the first level after Adam is augmented you may even lose control of your own body. Just a fleshpuppet with a USB port.
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coyo7e posted:Why not let people buy them on credit and become the new indentured class. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what's happening. Think about all the people who might get augmented on their employer's bankroll, IE soldiers or cops, and then think about how much they get paid, and how hosed they would be if the system didn't provide what they needed for them. WE'RE ALL JUST SLAVES MAN SLAVES TO NEUROPOZENE
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gently caress you guys, if getting awesome robo-parts means I simply have to do some extra overtime y'all are whining for nothing. 
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I hope we'll get a writeup on or some footage from today's debate/showing at Comic Con, if not / until then:  "Our wonderful panelists doing some prep work" & "Panel was a huge success! Thanks for coming!"
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 21:23 |
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I want this game so god-damned badly. I haven't even peaked at the leak! For anyone that is following this and you somehow haven't read Ghost in the Shell or have had the opportunity to watch Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, well, you should go out and do so right now. GitS:SAC is on netflix.
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 21:23 |
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I'd probably just get a finger replacement that had a lighter in it. That way I would only have to take a little neuropozene, just to help me go to sleep. Oh yeah and something that carbonated my semen.
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Tecman posted:Imagine instead a thread, not derailed with stuff like this and goons not posting about boning cyborgs because they'd be "perfect". Not even you can stop this thread turning into the Mass Effect 2 thread. It's going to happen. :| poptart_fairy posted:gently caress you guys, if getting awesome robo-parts means I simply have to do some extra overtime y'all are whining for nothing. My health insurance would cover it i'm sure!
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I don't see how you could have played the first Deus Ex without realising that mechanical augs are an ethical minefield. Fear of obsolescence, maintenance costs and long term downsides are the main reasons I doubt people would jump at the chance to cut off a limb if fully functional prosthetics became available tomorrow. Malrauxs Place posted:On the topic of robolegs, they actually seem kinda neat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ0iMulicgg
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 21:45 |
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Can we talk less about the ethical implications of realizing our dreams of being able to gently caress with a cyborg cock and more about the loving video game?
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I said come in! posted:Not even you can stop this thread turning into the Mass Effect 2 thread. It's going to happen. :| Not even the people that just want to discuss the game on a normal level and poo poo in that topic itself could stop that. 
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 21:53 |
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Lord Solitare posted:Can we talk less about the ethical implications of realizing our dreams of being able to gently caress with a cyborg cock and more about the loving video game?
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quote:“Hey Jensen, what did you just do?” Ahahaha, I love when games acknowledge weird poo poo like this. I don't know why I hacked that terminal sticking out of a random wall in a back alley! No, I don't know what it does, I thought there might be money inside!
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Tecman posted:Here we go. I keep getting file not found messages?
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| # ? Jul 21, 2011 22:42 |
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Man I swear it seems like the devs have spent more time talking about DXHR then making it. The mountain of interviews and videos from them is insane.
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randombattle posted:Man I swear it seems like the devs have spent more time talking about DXHR then making it. The mountain of interviews and videos from them is insane. They were kinda forced into it since Square-Enix pushed the game back to late August, right in the middle of their huge hype machine for the game made everyone think it was coming out sooner then that. They have to keep talking about the game and keeping people interested so they don't forget it is coming out soon.
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randombattle posted:Man I swear it seems like the devs have spent more time talking about DXHR then making it. The mountain of interviews and videos from them is insane. They all invested in conversational aug upgrades. 
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So, seeing as this is a prequel, what do you think the odds are of finding out if that vending machine was sabotaged to give out orange instead of lemon-lime?
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Speedball posted:So, seeing as this is a prequel, what do you think the odds are of finding out if that vending machine was sabotaged to give out orange instead of lemon-lime? The truth is already out there...
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Speedball posted:So, seeing as this is a prequel, what do you think the odds are of finding out if that vending machine was sabotaged to give out orange instead of lemon-lime? I did not ask for this!
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