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Neurophonic
May 2, 2009
Okay, first truly annoying bug or change spotted. Finder now seems to treat symlinks as aliases, which makes the traditional Dropbox symlink method less functional in terms of browsing via list or column views. It still synchronises okay, which is the most important thing, I guess.

Edit: Second one found - the 'file open' mini-browser now no longer supports drag and drop to choose a file. If you drag a file and release it over the 'file open' thing, it now moves that file into the visible folder. Not copy, move, even between drives.

I hope these just minor bugs due to some other odd changes, not changes in approach.

Additional Edit: Seems you can now have different wallpaper settings per space. Some set to change every 30 minutes in random order, others fixed, etc.

Neurophonic fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Feb 22, 2012

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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

carry on then posted:

You can do that in Lion, but the first space has to remain first for some reason.

Oh, I never noticed that. I always want to move the first space back so it just never let me and I assumed you just couldn't.

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!
I have an early 2011 MBP still running Snow Leopard, and I'm debating whether or not to upgrade to Lion. I use the laptop mainly for DJing, minor on-the-go music production tasks (for when I don't have access to my desktop), and programming (web dev with rails, browser extensions, phone apps). Looking at the list of changes, it seems like most of them are related to either the Apple apps or integration with other Apple products, both of which don't really affect me (I use Google for email/calendar/contacts, Android for phone and e-reader/tablet, and Windows for my desktop and HTPC/media server).

The Preview and Terminal upgrades look nice, and it seems like usability may have been improved a bit (new gestures, mission control), but I've also read about some folks downgrading back to Snow Leopard after trying out Lion. I think I'm okay in terms of Lion app compatibility (Traktor and Ableton), and I don't have anything that requires Rosetta, but are there any other issues I might run into (e.g. I've heard samba doesn't work as well on Lion)?

Any compelling reasons for or against upgrading?

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

Is there a way to make it so that all programs in lion stop reopening whatever I had open when I reopen it? It's annoying as hell for what I normally do.

1997
Jan 20, 2008

calmer than you are

Mr. Despair posted:

Is there a way to make it so that all programs in lion stop reopening whatever I had open when I reopen it? It's annoying as hell for what I normally do.

System Preferences > General > Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps?

Edit: Un-check that.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Eventually you're going to start getting hosed on software updates.

2/3 of my machines are still running SL, it wouldn't kill me to switch but I probably won't bother until I -have- to for some reason.

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

1997 posted:

System Preferences > General > Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps?

Edit: Un-check that.

I love it when it's a simple thing. Thanks!

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Mr. Despair posted:

I love it when it's a simple thing. Thanks!
Better yet use RestoreMeNot and choose which apps instead of killing the behavior entirely.

Choadmaster
Oct 7, 2004

I don't care how snug they fit, you're nuts!

Mu Zeta posted:

It's easier to just use Firefox or something for porn. Then go back to the clean Safari.

LOL. I already use Firefox for porn actually. Porn has nothing to do with this, I'm just a privacy nut and I have no reason whatsoever to keep my history around. In answer to CaptainCaveman's question, yes, Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera, Camino, Omniweb, and iCab all allow you to set them to remember no history. Chrome doesn't.


fleshweasel posted:

You need some poo poo that like 1% of users need. To apple that means they can take you or leave you. So use a different browser.

This is a fairly standard feature from other browsers that would require almost no extra coding and absolutely no extra buttons or complexity in the app preferences. Even if only 1% of users (hundreds of thousands of customers) would use it, there's really no excuse for it not being there. I happen to like Safari enough that I'll use it anyway, but I'm not going to stop hoping they come to their senses and fix that poo poo.

coldplay chiptunes
Sep 17, 2010

by Lowtax
While I agree that it would be trivial to implement, you lose 99% of the functionality of the address bar (omnibar in the new version) by not keeping a history. You're missing out on the experience because you're a weirdo who doesn't want his girlfriend to see he has an OKCupid account.

Neurophonic
May 2, 2009

Choadmaster posted:

LOL. I already use Firefox for porn actually. Porn has nothing to do with this, I'm just a privacy nut and I have no reason whatsoever to keep my history around. In answer to CaptainCaveman's question, yes, Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera, Camino, Omniweb, and iCab all allow you to set them to remember no history. Chrome doesn't.


This is a fairly standard feature from other browsers that would require almost no extra coding and absolutely no extra buttons or complexity in the app preferences. Even if only 1% of users (hundreds of thousands of customers) would use it, there's really no excuse for it not being there. I happen to like Safari enough that I'll use it anyway, but I'm not going to stop hoping they come to their senses and fix that poo poo.

If it bothers you that much, you could divert your nerd rage energy into creating an Automator script to purge the history folder every 30 seconds. Or just use it in 'Private Browsing' 24/7 - Safari is better than Chrome for your needs simply because that setting is browser wide rather than per window.

Choadmaster
Oct 7, 2004

I don't care how snug they fit, you're nuts!

coldplay chiptunes posted:

While I agree that it would be trivial to implement, you lose 99% of the functionality of the address bar (omnibar in the new version) by not keeping a history. You're missing out on the experience because you're a weirdo who doesn't want his girlfriend to see he has an OKCupid account.

I use the address bar to (gasp!) enter addresses. Bookmarks-based autocomplete/search is nice too. Adding a shitton of results from my browsing history in there is, to me, detrimental clutter. If you like it, more power to you. I don't, but for some reason Apple decided not to give me a choice.


Neurophonic posted:

If it bothers you that much, you could divert your nerd rage energy into creating an Automator script to purge the history folder every 30 seconds. Or just use it in 'Private Browsing' 24/7 - Safari is better than Chrome for your needs simply because that setting is browser wide rather than per window.

I already explained why private browsing isn't a reasonable solution. It bothers me fairly mildly, or I would have switched to Omniweb or Opera long ago. All this stemmed from a simple question about Safari 5.2; there was no "nerd rage" there. I'm honestly more disturbed about how defensive people are getting on Apple's behalf over the lack of a simple (and common elsewhere) feature in their browser.

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Apple didn't give you that choice because it's a bad choice. Heil Tim.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

I wonder if we'll have to wait until Mountain Lion for Safari 5.2, or if they'll push it out early. UI experimentation aside, it seems ready to go.

Neurophonic
May 2, 2009

Choadmaster posted:

I already explained why private browsing isn't a reasonable solution. It bothers me fairly mildly, or I would have switched to Omniweb or Opera long ago. All this stemmed from a simple question about Safari 5.2; there was no "nerd rage" there. I'm honestly more disturbed about how defensive people are getting on Apple's behalf over the lack of a simple (and common elsewhere) feature in their browser.

If you add a keyboard shortcut to toggle private browsing it has no confirmation and minimal effort. 1Password or similar takes care of logging in.

Or like I said, a five minute job in Automator to delete ~/Library/Safari/History.plist and ~/Library/Safari/HistoryIndex.sk

It's not really being defensive, it's just highlighting that you're an edge case.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Is there any way to get my MacBook Air to prefer the 5 GHz spectrum for my AEBS? My network is the dual-band "fishpond" in the shots below:





As you can see, 5 GHz is a lot less crowded. My assumption is that because the 2.4 GHz band is showing higher signal strength that OS X is preferring that, but I'd like the higher data rates and less interference associated with 5 GHz.



:argh:

Should I just cave and give the 5 GHz network a different name?

El Duke Silver
Aug 15, 2008

rarely goes out and should never be approached

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Should I just cave and give the 5 GHz network a different name?

this is what I ended up doing with my Time Capsule and it made life a hell of a lot easier.

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Is there any way to get my MacBook Air to prefer the 5 GHz spectrum for my AEBS? My network is the dual-band "fishpond" in the shots below:





As you can see, 5 GHz is a lot less crowded. My assumption is that because the 2.4 GHz band is showing higher signal strength that OS X is preferring that, but I'd like the higher data rates and less interference associated with 5 GHz.



:argh:

Should I just cave and give the 5 GHz network a different name?

Just add 5 Ghz to the end of the 5 Ghz network.

Also, does moving the 5 Ghz network to the top of your preferred network list not work?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

decypher posted:

Also, does moving the 5 Ghz network to the top of your preferred network list not work?
OS X doesn't treat them as unique networks when they have the same SSID/WPA2 settings, as far as I can tell. I only have one "fishpond" entry in my preferred network list.

I guess I'll do the "add 5GHz to the end of the SSID" thing. Thanks to both.

edit: Much better :)

Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Feb 22, 2012

Txiuct
May 27, 2006

United States Federal Bureau of Investigation - "We don't give a shit, holmes."

Star War Sex Parrot posted:





Is that a plugin or mountain lion that gives you all that extra wifi info?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Txiuct posted:

Is that a plugin or mountain lion that gives you all that extra wifi info?
Hold Option when you click the Wi-Fi button on the toolbar.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride
I don't think there's a reason not to segregate SSIDs, except that I think it might keep you from running a guest network, which I never cared for much anyway. Also it cuts off the end of my clever SSID :ohdear:

But back when my network layout consisted of wireless going out to two different bridges that did a lot of video streaming, it made a huuuuuge difference.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Is there any way to get my MacBook Air to prefer the 5 GHz spectrum for my AEBS? My network is the dual-band "fishpond" in the shots below:





As you can see, 5 GHz is a lot less crowded. My assumption is that because the 2.4 GHz band is showing higher signal strength that OS X is preferring that, but I'd like the higher data rates and less interference associated with 5 GHz.



:argh:

Should I just cave and give the 5 GHz network a different name?

What program is that?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

I mentioned it yesterday. :)

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Wi-Fi Explorer

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
What can I use to mass-rename video files with the proper episode titles after the fact?

Or is there some Handbrake plugin that will let me encode DVDs with proper titles?

Ideally I'd love something I can just drag my Futurama folder into and it would rename all the episodes based on IMDB or some other online resource.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Martytoof posted:

What can I use to mass-rename video files with the proper episode titles after the fact?

Or is there some Handbrake plugin that will let me encode DVDs with proper titles?

Ideally I'd love something I can just drag my Futurama folder into and it would rename all the episodes based on IMDB or some other online resource.
I like FileBot. The interface is a little cumbersome, but it's worked well for me. You can either launch it from a browser or just download the executable Jar.

edit: There's an OS X .app as well. I can't recall if I've tried that before.

coldplay chiptunes
Sep 17, 2010

by Lowtax
There's a goon made app that I got a free code for I think.

EDIT: Here you go. No idea if it does what you asked though. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/magic-media-marker/id438852954?mt=12

cbirdsong
Sep 8, 2004

Commodore of the Apocalypso
Lipstick Apathy

Martytoof posted:

What can I use to mass-rename video files with the proper episode titles after the fact?

Or is there some Handbrake plugin that will let me encode DVDs with proper titles?

Ideally I'd love something I can just drag my Futurama folder into and it would rename all the episodes based on IMDB or some other online resource.

You might check out iFlicks: http://iflicksapp.com/

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!
When using multiple monitors, does Lion still blank all other displays when using a full screen app? If so, has Apple addressed this and mentioned if there's a fix in the works? Has it been fixed in the Mountain Lion preview?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

I like FileBot. The interface is a little cumbersome, but it's worked well for me. You can either launch it from a browser or just download the executable Jar.

edit: There's an OS X .app as well. I can't recall if I've tried that before.

Awesome, this did the trick. Thanks!

e: ACtually thank you everyone, I'll give them all a shot :)

FiftyFour
Jan 26, 2006
Tosspot

Martytoof posted:

What can I use to mass-rename video files with the proper episode titles after the fact?

Or is there some Handbrake plugin that will let me encode DVDs with proper titles?

Ideally I'd love something I can just drag my Futurama folder into and it would rename all the episodes based on IMDB or some other online resource.

I have an automator script to rename stuff to S01E01, S01E02 etc, then use Identify to tag 'em all, works great.

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33814/identify

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
FileBot did the trick for now, but I've downloaded the others for next time. Thanks :)

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!

Splinter posted:

When using multiple monitors, does Lion still blank all other displays when using a full screen app? If so, has Apple addressed this and mentioned if there's a fix in the works? Has it been fixed in the Mountain Lion preview?

Yes, Lion still does that. I've used RightZoom with moderate success to full screen programs without using Lion's new stupid way.


Mountain Lion Preview 1 behaves exactly like Lion in this respect, unfortunately.

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Also don't forget BetterTouchTool's Aero snap clone features. Drag on a window, bring your cursor to the top of the screen and release to maximize, or drag to the left or right edge to fill up half the screen.

spaced ninja
Apr 10, 2009


Toilet Rascal

fleshweasel posted:

Also don't forget BetterTouchTool's Aero snap clone features. Drag on a window, bring your cursor to the top of the screen and release to maximize, or drag to the left or right edge to fill up half the screen.

Hyperdock has this as well.

chutwig
May 28, 2001

BURLAP SATCHEL OF CRACKERJACKS

fleshweasel posted:

Also don't forget BetterTouchTool's Aero snap clone features. Drag on a window, bring your cursor to the top of the screen and release to maximize, or drag to the left or right edge to fill up half the screen.

I prefer Moom for that kind of stuff, because it seems weird to me for that kind of window management to be in BTT.

pipes!
Jul 10, 2001
Nap Ghost

syndex posted:

Hyperdock has this as well.

Yeah, that's what I use. Hyperdock owns.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

fleshweasel posted:

Also don't forget BetterTouchTool's Aero snap clone features. Drag on a window, bring your cursor to the top of the screen and release to maximize, or drag to the left or right edge to fill up half the screen.
This is one of the things I can't deal with not having when using other people's machines.

maduin
Mar 4, 2003
Speaking of Hyperdock, is there a way to hide the dock name labels that appear when you hover over icons so that they're not popping up behind the Hyperdock previews?

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Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009

maduin posted:

Speaking of Hyperdock, is there a way to hide the dock name labels that appear when you hover over icons so that they're not popping up behind the Hyperdock previews?

Apparently no.

Which is really sad.

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