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MrChupon posted:This is one of the least honest questions I've seen asked on the forums in years, hah. I'll humor you and treat it as such. You know gas-powered cars have the CVT option, too, right?  flavor posted:Honest question (not just for you): Do you guys ever change car types or move to different apartments? How do you deal with it if the slightest thing is different? There is certainly no difference between expected (and usually tested, unless you walk into dealerships blindfolded and just buy the first thing that you jam a knee into) change and unexpected change. A system or hardware that doesn't react how you'd expect is frustrating and relearning muscle memory takes effort you weren't expecting to spend. Have someone randomly switch your keyboard layout between Dvorak and Qwerty. How well would you adapt? What if you woke up tomorrow needing to find a new apartment, pack, and move within 24 hours? Oh, right. You would be completely cool with both of those things because something being different is never a time to complain.
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Arsten posted:You know gas-powered cars have the CVT option, too, right? Yeah, I just think I've managed to not rent one yet. Maybe I should stop choosing the econo-shitbox option every time I visit Hertz.
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MrChupon posted:Yeah, I just think I've managed to not rent one yet. Maybe I should stop choosing the econo-shitbox option every time I visit Hertz. That's all Hertz has. When possible, try to select a Nissan. They tend to put CVTs in half of their line up (lovely CVTs that are problem factories.....but they are still CVTs)
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Arsten posted:There is certainly no difference between expected (and usually tested, unless you walk into dealerships blindfolded and just buy the first thing that you jam a knee into) change and unexpected change. A system or hardware that doesn't react how you'd expect is frustrating and relearning muscle memory takes effort you weren't expecting to spend.
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I've owned only manual cars since I was sixteen. Driving an automatic is a very strange experience that actually feels vaguely unsafe, but the difference in clutch lengths and shifter throws is pretty distracting when you switch manual cars and probably similar to this guy's trackpad sensation. It definitely feels like the same sort of difference as using the terrible trackpads on Windows laptops. This doesn't mean that he's allergic to change, just aware of it. It would be strange to not be aware of it.
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SourKraut posted:It's flavor - he's the fishmech of the Mac thread, so don't respond. I think most normal people can acknowledge it can take at least some type to adapt to any change. I thought Pivo was our resident fishmech?
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MrChupon posted:This is one of the least honest questions I've seen asked on the forums in years, hah.  people are here. I think the track pad thing is a microscopic change.MrChupon posted:It stinks, but to make your point for you, I do usually adjust within the a day and it's slowly getting to be less of an issue the more non-prius cars I encounter. Arsten posted:There is certainly no difference between expected (and usually tested, unless you walk into dealerships blindfolded and just buy the first thing that you jam a knee into) change and unexpected change. A system or hardware that doesn't react how you'd expect is frustrating and relearning muscle memory takes effort you weren't expecting to spend. Arsten posted:Have someone randomly switch your keyboard layout between Dvorak and Qwerty. How well would you adapt? What if you woke up tomorrow needing to find a new apartment, pack, and move within 24 hours? Oh, right. You would be completely cool with both of those things because something being different is never a time to complain. tuyop posted:I've owned only manual cars since I was sixteen. Driving an automatic is a very strange experience that actually feels vaguely unsafe, but the difference in clutch lengths and shifter throws is pretty distracting when you switch manual cars and probably similar to this guy's trackpad sensation. It definitely feels like the same sort of difference as using the terrible trackpads on Windows laptops. This doesn't mean that he's allergic to change, just aware of it. It would be strange to not be aware of it. I'm REALLY sorry for the people who have to project things here, but I seem to be coming in on the low end of having issues with change. I had noticed this in completely different contexts before when someone got very aggressive when I wasn't with them on "OMG the Control Panel of Windows 2000 is SO different from Windows 98!". Thank you for your interesting input on this.
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flavor posted:OMG the steering wheel on this on is 0.2 inches further to the left than on that other one - I'll never get used to that! Stop drinking wood grain alcohol, dude. flavor posted:This was based on the force touch track pad vs. the old type track pad. I'm sorry, that doesn't even register with me. It's of course always possible to come up with something that's extremely different enough to make things difficult for anyone, but we're talking about a surface that one has to push and that has staid in the same position. flavor posted:I'm REALLY sorry for the people who have to project things here, but I seem to be coming in on the low end of having issues with change. I had noticed this in completely different contexts before when someone got very aggressive when I wasn't with them on "OMG the Control Panel of Windows 2000 is SO different from Windows 98!". I know, I know. You are a special snow flake and everyone should be like you. We get it. We just don't care.
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Arsten posted:I know, I know. You are a special snow flake and everyone should be like you. We get it. We just don't care. No, I've just seen that there are some people here who get super emotional about it when other people don't have the exact same hangups they have, and then lash out. What I'm really thinking is that people are just different and work in different ways, and are probably reasonably easy to get along with in real life but that on forums where they don't have to look you in the face some publicly become apoplectic and take it very personally if your issues don't match theirs to the last atom. Okay, the new track pad is terrible and I'll never get used to it. And driving even slightly different cars takes me a week to get used to until I know front from back. Happy?
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EconOutlines posted:Can anyone recommend a MacBook model for school use? My requirements aren't all that difficult, just I tried to replace a 2014 rMBP (15") with the 2016 m5. It just fell short, but for almost all my tasks it was perfectly serviceable. Where I had issues was running various VMs and using PyCharm. Since I use both of those fairly often, I ended up giving it to my nephew who's got his first year of college starting this fall. For normal stuff: Office, multiple tabs, ssh and RDP it worked great. I only ever noticed throttling kick in when running VMware over time and PyCharm almost immediately. Otherwise it was unnoticeable. The two things I'll really miss are the fantastic keyboard (the keys are slightly contoured, bigger and have less travel) and Force Touch Trackpad. Another thing, going from 1920 x 1200 to 1440 x 900 can be a bit cramped, but the Apple multiport adapter helps with that. Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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flavor posted:No, I've just seen that there are some people here who get super emotional about it when other people don't have the exact same hangups they have, and then lash out. flavor posted:What I'm really thinking is that people are just different and work in different ways, and are probably reasonably easy to get along with in real life but that on forums where they don't have to look you in the face some publicly become apoplectic and take it very personally if your issues don't match theirs to the last atom. flavor posted:Okay, the new track pad is terrible and I'll never get used to it. And driving even slightly different cars takes me a week to get used to until I know front from back. Happy? Sure, sure. Bob's your uncle. Whatever works to make you go argue with fishmech.
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flosofl posted:I tried to replace a 2014 rMBP (15") with the 2016 m5. I think I'll revisit the Apple Store and see if a rMBP(13") will be acceptable in terms of weight/size. A lot more power for the the same (or less) of a price. Thanks.
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EconOutlines posted:I think I'll revisit the Apple Store and see if a rMBP(13") will be acceptable in terms of weight/size. A lot more power for the the same (or less) of a price.
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Apple better release new hardware before this thread turns into auto chat. I need to start thinking about new tires.
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Housh posted:Apple better release new hardware before this thread turns into auto chat. Tire status: Don't Buy -- rumors of a new tire release in Q4 2016...
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Arsten posted:They express frustration and you pretend it means they are holding a razor to their arm for attention. Believe it or not, I've used so many computers that I really tend to not pay attention to or have thoughts enter my mind about which keyboard I'm using or whether the click of the track pad is physical or force touch. I had expected there to be more people like that, but nobody else came forward. Does this make me special or better than anyone? No, it's just a difference I wasn't aware of. I'm sure you are 100% average in everything you do and you don't stick out an iota in any area, so I congratulate you. But if you ever do, make sure not to ask about it because you're probably just trying to be seen as a "special snowflake", "arguing in bad faith", "posting like user X" and whatnot. Just keep your head down.
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Housh posted:I need to start thinking about new tires. movax posted:Tire status: Don't Buy -- rumors of a new tire release in Q4 2016... One of these should be the new thread title imo.
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I received my 250 GB SSD today and I ran Carbon Copy Cloner to clone my HD to my new SSD. Upon completion, it shows my new SSD has 80 GB free while my old HD has 50 GB free. Both HD's are the same size. Did I do something wrong? I was able to boot fine from the SSD but wasn't comfortable continuing with that drive so I just erased the SSD again and trying it again with the SuperDuper app. I assume something went wrong or I chose a different option on the Carbon Copy Cleaner. Busy Bee fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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flavor posted:They're just frustrated because not every last poster follows them 100% and it makes them post ad hominem comparisons to other posters, which I see as a sign of desperation from people out of substantive arguments. Arsten posted:You are the only one who thinks this was going on. Circles are fun!
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Arsten posted:Circles are fun! I don't know if "fun" is the adjective I'd use to describe anything regarding flavor posts
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Busy Bee posted:I received my 250 GB SSD today and I ran Carbon Copy Cloner to clone my HD to my new SSD. Upon completion, it shows my new SSD has 80 GB free while my old HD has 50 GB free. Both HD's are the same size. Did I do something wrong?
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So I went ahead and used the SuperDuper clone tool instead - here's a picture comparing the two drives after it was done. 
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If it boots fine and all of your stuff is there, I would just say "yay, space savings". OS X accumulates a lot of cruft sometimes. There's all the metadata it throws everywhere, there are folders it keeps for old data just in case, LOGS - SO MANY LOGS, and surely an OS X compatible application wouldn't copy over your Trash and other things like that. Boot it. See if it's all there. I'm quite certain you will find it, in usage, to be identical.
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Pivo posted:surely an OS X compatible application wouldn't copy over your Trash and other things like that. I sure hope it does.
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Subjunctive posted:I sure hope it does. You could do a direct clone using the Terminal without any third party application, I personally would hope that an OS X aware application would notice what's junk and what's not. I can't personally speak to where the size differences come from in this person's case, all I'm saying is that if it boots fine and all your stuff is there, let it go. Metadata, logs, install files, bullshit stacks up. OS X isn't really good at saving space. There are instructions here for using `dd` to make a direct copy without any third party software. That will be an identical clone.
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also it's kinda cute that you guys spent like two pages arguing about me bitching about the trackpad, and Arsten actually defended me. I was just saying "augh this is weird and annoying" but I suppose it did merit a discussion. I let my friend try it and she thought it was fabulous, so I guess it varies how quickly people take to it. I've been using Apple trackpads for, like, over a decade now? Change is weird. I'll deal. But continue talking about it if you want. Without making judgements about me, if you could. -_-
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I also hate change. Like the godawful 12" Macbook keyboard.
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Pivo posted:If it boots fine and all of your stuff is there, I would just say "yay, space savings". OS X accumulates a lot of cruft sometimes. There's all the metadata it throws everywhere, there are folders it keeps for old data just in case, LOGS - SO MANY LOGS, and surely an OS X compatible application wouldn't copy over your Trash and other things like that. All of the data loss is pretty much in movies, though. I mean, I get it what you are saying about Metadata, and the tiny amounts lost from the other categories could certainly be that..... But how much metadata are you going to keep for your movies? Is it going to be twice the video size itself? That being said, Busy Bee, I would start a disk scan via Apple Diagnostics and see if what you lost wasn't rejected for disk read errors. Depending on the tool (I am unfamiliar with both of those you tried, sorry) it might not copy any of the files in question if there were disk read issues.
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Pivo posted:also it's kinda cute that you guys spent like two pages arguing about me bitching about the trackpad, and Arsten actually defended me. Pivo posted:But continue talking about it if you want. Without making judgements about me, if you could. -_- No. You'll get judged and you'll like it. 
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Pivo posted:If it boots fine and all of your stuff is there, I would just say "yay, space savings". OS X accumulates a lot of cruft sometimes. There's all the metadata it throws everywhere, there are folders it keeps for old data just in case, LOGS - SO MANY LOGS, and surely an OS X compatible application wouldn't copy over your Trash and other things like that. Yeah everything works fine and everything seems to be there. Seems like I'm missing a decent amount of movie files.... I did delete a few movie files before I cloned the HD though. Regardless, nothing really important there anyway. I plan to hold onto this MBP until the new ones come out.
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rear end Catchcum posted:Ok the magic track pad 2 is the best thing ever Yeah. It and the rechargeable keyboard are so loving nice.
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So I'm going back to school for computer science this fall and hauling around this T430 I bought as a stopgap when my 2008 MBP died is not going to work for me. Mainly because I really dislike windows still, and this thing is like hauling an anchor around compared to my old unibody MBP. As of now I'm sort of torn between the 2015 rMB (m5 or m7 model) and the 2015 13" MBP on the refurb store. I love the rMB form factor, a hub for my desk at home would take care of most of the issues I have with ports and let me use my larger display for work at home. The battery life seems fine and I can probably learn to live with the keyboard, and I don't think the slight spec bump this year would be worth the price premium...but I could be wrong on that? The 13" is just so much more computer for the dollar. And it'd let me have 16GB of ram which might be nice for more VMs? I don't know, I don't feel like the rMB is going to limit me with my use case (student poo poo, media consumption, coding), and I kinda feel like if I'm eventually going to buy the MBP, I should just wait for the refresh (in september?) when prices are bound to drop on the refurb store. Thoughts?
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Viper_3000 posted:So I'm going back to school for computer science this fall and hauling around this T430 I bought as a stopgap when my 2008 MBP died is not going to work for me. Mainly because I really dislike windows still, and this thing is like hauling an anchor around compared to my old unibody MBP. As of now I'm sort of torn between the 2015 rMB (m5 or m7 model) and the 2015 13" MBP on the refurb store. I love the rMB form factor, a hub for my desk at home would take care of most of the issues I have with ports and let me use my larger display for work at home. The battery life seems fine and I can probably learn to live with the keyboard, and I don't think the slight spec bump this year would be worth the price premium...but I could be wrong on that? The 13" is just so much more computer for the dollar. And it'd let me have 16GB of ram which might be nice for more VMs? I don't know, I don't feel like the rMB is going to limit me with my use case (student poo poo, media consumption, coding), and I kinda feel like if I'm eventually going to buy the MBP, I should just wait for the refresh (in september?) when prices are bound to drop on the refurb store. If you are going to be running VMs, my recommendation is that you definitely want the extra processor power and RAM of the MBP. If you are heart-set on having the rMB, though, you can always get the rMB and then get a cheap(er) PC system you can use to host VMs on. If you need the VMs at school and the system stays at home, you can always connect via RDP/VNC/w-e to the client operating systems across the internet. But this option has its own drawbacks - especially spending money for a second system.
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Arsten posted:If you are going to be running VMs, my recommendation is that you definitely want the extra processor power and RAM of the MBP. Oh. I forgot to mention that I already have a desktop gaming rig (i7-6700, 1070, 16GB RAM) that can do the heavy lifting in the scenario you mentioned. I'd just need to figure out how to connect to it via RDP/VNC/whateves when I'm out of the house.
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Viper_3000 posted:Oh. I forgot to mention that I already have a desktop gaming rig (i7-6700, 1070, 16GB RAM) that can do the heavy lifting in the scenario you mentioned. I'd just need to figure out how to connect to it via RDP/VNC/whateves when I'm out of the house. You just need to open a port on your router. RDP is complicated, I think there's a wide range of ports, I've never exposed RDP to the greater Internet, but you can probably find instructions to do it. I've done VNC, and that's as easy as setting up a server and opening one port. You could also VPN in and RDP through the VPN, then you can authenticate using your Windows account on a secure connection, but I've never setup a VPN server on OS X. I think there's a package called OpenConnect on brew and you can Google about that, I really think RDP over VPN is the most secure way to punch a hole in your firewall to the outside world, but I suppose VNC with a strong password would work decently too, there's just not that extra layer of protection. edit: You might also want to sign up with a free dynamic DNS service so you can address your computer by name across the Internet, since remembering the IP addy can be a bitch - especially when it changes and you're not at home. edit2: I just realized you wouldn't be setting up the VPN on OS X. Well, OpenConnect should work on Windows, there's probably a port. Pivo fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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Pivo posted:RDP is complicated, I think there's a wide range of ports It's just 3389, TCP.
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Eletriarnation posted:It's just 3389, TCP. Really? When I looked into this last, there was like a HUGE range. But, I am likely mistaken and confusing it with some other godforsaken Microsoft product. Thanks for the correction. Still, allowing RDP to the outside world is probably a bad idea, I stand by that.
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