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Shhhhhhhhhh! (Edit) Oh er content for new page... I should be able to run a fight tomorrow if there are any left. Failing that, Sunday if the new round has started by then.
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 Test Tournament 2, Week 1, Match 7 On the left, Menacing Lack of Spikes, featuring from top to bottom: EmbodiedPrincipleOfPerfection the Ant Woman managed by ZeeToo, Tomoe Gozen the Human managed by Tarezax, Atom the Gremlin managed by Supradog and Caffeinequaffer the Dwarf managed by Podima. On the right, Oscar Pistorius's gun club, featuring from top to bottom: It Ain't Ogre 'til it's Snogre the Yeti managed by Locomotive breath, Just a Prick the Kobold managed by Duckaerobics, Karl the Human managed by Maarak and hambeaten the Dwarf managed by matthew beet.  Let the second to the last arena match of the round commence! The match opens with a mechanical *chunk* noise as a bolt from Caffeinequaffer's crossbow catapults across the arena. The bolt finds its home in It Ain't Ogre 'til it's Snogre's guts! The Yeti does not look well!   The remaining uninjured fighters meet in the center of the arena and square off. After a few failed attacks Tomoe Gozen solidly connects with Just a Prick's left leg! The halberd cuts deep and the Kobold falls to the ground. *Chunk* and another bolt shoots into the arena. The bolt makes it a couple yards before Tomoe Gozen stabs Just a Prick in the spleen, causing him to lose consciousness. A few more yards and EmbodiedPrincipleOfPerfection stabs Just a Prick in the head. One more yard and Tomoe Gozen finishes off Just a Prick by severing his head from his body. First kill goes to Tomoe Gozen!    The bolt snaps against the wall. Karl starts to charge towards Atom but hambeaten attacks the Gremlin first, causing it to jump away. In a stunning display of incompetence Karl continues charging and neither tries to stop nor veer to one side! Karl and hambeaten collide and fall to the ground together in a clump. Tomoe Gozen takes advantage of the mishap by removing Karl's right arm from his body.  hambeaten is shaken at what just happened but stands up and rejoins the fray. Meanwhile EmbodiedPrincipleOfPerfection has stabbed It Ain't Ogre 'til it's Snogre's right leg, causing the great beast to fall over unconscious! Tomoe Gozen steals any chance of glory from the Ant Woman by quickly decapitating It Ain't Ogre 'til it's Snogre.  Tomoe Gozen scratches out one of Karl's teeth and, while distracted, EmbodiedPrincipleOfPerfection stabs off the Human's left hand! A dagger clangs to the floor. Tomoe Gozen slashes one of Karl's toes and Atom jumps up to meet the Human's head and kicks a tooth out of his mouth! hambeaten gets back in the mix by slicing off one of EmbodiedPrincipleOfPerfection's left hands! A spear clatters to the floor. Another *chunk* is heard and a half-second later a bolt hits Karl, only causing bruises. hambeaten makes his second move by slashing Tomoe Gozen in the left leg, bringing her to the ground. Atom lashes Karl in the chest, bruising a lung! hambeaten makes yet another successful connection by spilling EmbodiedPrincipleOfPerfection's guts with a stab to the Ant Woman's abdomen. The Ant Woman responds by stabbing the Dwarf in the left foot, causing him to fall. Another *chunk*, another bolt in Karl. This one bruises Karl's ribs. The wounds are beginning to stack up on Karl and he isn't looking too good.  Indeed after a few more rounds of exertion, including a punch to the kidney that EmbodiedPrincipleOfPerfection delivered to hambeaten, Karl bleeds too much blood and his body shuts down. As this kill was caused by bleeding I will award the kill to whoever caused the largest amount of it, in this case it was Tomoe Gozen for chopping off Karl's right arm earlier.  Atom attempts an attack on hambeaten, and while he does miss, he succeeds in getting the Dwarf to roll into attack range of Tomoe Gozen. EmbodiedPrincipleOfPerfection stabs hambeaten in the neck, bruising the upper spine. Tomoe Gozen slashes hambeaten's lungs while EmbodiedPrincipleOfPerfection stabs off his right hand. The Dwarf falls unconscious. Tomoe Gozen, ever the efficient gladiator, decapitates hambeaten immediately.   Score: Menacing Lack of Spikes - 4, Oscar Pistorius's gun club - 0 Kills: Tomoe Gozen - 4 Combat Log Lessons learned: Crossbows are fairly effective, watch out for women with Halberds.
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Sep 19, 2014 19:53
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Special mention should go to "It Ain't Ogre 'til it's Snogre" for the most ridiculous name that made me giggle.
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Sep 19, 2014 20:10
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Well, Tomoe Gozen certainly lives up to her name.
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Sep 19, 2014 20:16
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 That's a relief - I was worried after the earlier match! Go team!
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Sep 19, 2014 20:49
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Good lord, Tomoe wasn't even enraged, she was just awesome.
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Sep 19, 2014 20:54
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Well, that sure was a fight alright. And I made Spermy laugh too! Talk about insult to injury. Real talk though I think yetis might be kinda bad. 
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Sep 19, 2014 21:50
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Well, that was beautifully one-sided. My thanks go out to my teammates who all helped contribute to our victory scheme.
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Sep 19, 2014 21:55
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Locomotive breath posted:Real talk though I think yetis might be kinda bad.  I disagree.
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Sep 19, 2014 21:57
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my dad posted:I disagree. BUT MY YETI WAS BAD THEREFORE YETIS BAD. YETI BAD.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:01
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my dad posted:
 Holy poo poo.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:04
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my dad posted:
Considering every team with a Yeti so far has lost the first round, I'm not so sure it matters how much punch they have. Don't worry though, this last match guarantees a Yeti will win at least one round. Locomotive breath posted:BUT MY YETI WAS BAD THEREFORE YETIS BAD. Well I mean your Yeti got gut shot immediately, so it's kind of hard to tell if he would have been effective or not.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:08
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my dad posted:
Yeah, yetis are not bad. They just aren't particularly effective after they've been gut-shot. A yeti just needs to start his assault before he gets chewed up. Kinda like the little guys, except on the small end you're relying on massive numbers of points while a giant needs to use his bulk and strength.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:08
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Yeaaah, true. Probably should have invested in armor that's better than copper, in retrospect. But I needed points for killing things too! Also I thought I read something years ago about armor in big guys being somewhat more durable due to their size or something like that? I could definitely be remembering that incorrectly though.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:10
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Well that's no way to get ahead.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:15
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Locomotive breath posted:Yeaaah, true. Probably should have invested in armor that's better than copper, in retrospect. But I needed points for killing things too! Also I thought I read something years ago about armor in big guys being somewhat more durable due to their size or something like that? I could definitely be remembering that incorrectly though. Copper mail is an OK-ish investment for minotaurs, trolls and yetis, since at the very least it's thick enough to protect them from guys trying to slash their body with non-adamantine daggers, sharp scourge damage, and the like. You just got unlucky, like my gremlin did in our round.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:17
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Locomotive breath posted:Yeaaah, true. Probably should have invested in armor that's better than copper, in retrospect. But I needed points for killing things too! Also I thought I read something years ago about armor in big guys being somewhat more durable due to their size or something like that? I could definitely be remembering that incorrectly though. Copper armor can be pretty good. A bronze bolt is not going to be stopped by it, but it can be fairly effective against melee weapons.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:21
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my dad posted:You just got unlucky, like my gremlin did in our round. You did not get unlucky. You got shot, got half your body chopped off and still killed a Tiger Man before you bled out. I think Gremlins might actually be very good, at least in team matches. That's what I've taken from these two tournaments so far at least.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:24
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A tournament where every fighter gets exactly the same number of points, but some get multiple copies. So you have X points to buy skills and items, but if you're a gremlin you get four, where there's three dwarfs, a pair of tigermen, or only a single yeti.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:30
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Silverminnow posted:I think Gremlins might actually be very good, at least in team matches. Hehehe, I've been saying that since the first test tournament started. my dad posted:Well, there's one experiment result I'm willing to share with everyone. It looks like the rules of this tournament provide a massive nerf to big guys. Big guys rely on knocking down smaller opponents and stomping them into the curb while they're defenseless. With 3 people on each side, unless the big guys can kill the guy on the ground really fast, there will always be someone capable of striking back with something choppy/stabby/smashy. Which is why I chose a gremlin this time.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:32
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goatface posted:A tournament where every fighter gets exactly the same number of points, but some get multiple copies. Good god, a team of 16 Gremlins. my dad posted:Hehehe, I've been saying that since the first test tournament started. I must have missed this, but yes it looks like you are completely correct. What could we do to help out the big guys without making them too powerful though?
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Sep 19, 2014 22:39
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Yeesh, that went even worse than Karl's namesake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KhygzMwmt4
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Sep 19, 2014 22:45
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Silverminnow posted:I must have missed this, but yes it looks like you are completely correct. What could we do to help out the big guys without making them too powerful though? Remove the striking skill penalty, for starters. It's not a viable build in the long-term anyway, but big buys certainly don't need to be nerfed further. I don't think big guys actually need a lot of balancing to stay competitive. They have a role, they just need support and some thought given to their build. Size gives a direct bonus to all attack related rolls, so they can reliably keep up with smaller guys, even with less points. Their main issue is that just getting a non-lovely weapon takes away almost a third of their points. Maybe give them an initial boost to their point count? Like, have the boost equal to their armor cost penalty. Yetis starting with 1350 points instead of 900, then getting 900 if they pass, and 600 for further matches, would probably go a long way towards making them viable.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:50
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yetis are actually good as hell as long as you assume direct control. nothing like grabbing an antwoman by the arm, throwing her, and watching her head skid across the arena floor and explode or pinching a kobold in the upper body and collapsing it into a lump of gore
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Sep 20, 2014 02:06
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Silverminnow posted:Lessons learned: Crossbows are fairly effective.
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Sep 20, 2014 02:11
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Yetis are actually pretty great in my testing and looking at the code. Size counts for basically everything - it's not just the charge/prone. Your armour is thicker, your weapons are bigger, you have more momentum on your attacks, etc.
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Sep 20, 2014 09:06
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Most of the Yeti's have been having a bad run of luck sustaining severe injuries in the early exchanges of their matches. Yetti Page of Habeas Corpses for example suffered a severed motor nerve in the foot in the first round of attacks that left him prone for the rest of the match. Another lost a foot relatively early on with the same result.
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Sep 20, 2014 10:58
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Pickled Tink posted:Most of the Yeti's have been having a bad run of luck sustaining severe injuries in the early exchanges of their matches. Yetti Page of Habeas Corpses for example suffered a severed motor nerve in the foot in the first round of attacks that left him prone for the rest of the match. Another lost a foot relatively early on with the same result. And in the most recent fight the yeti was nauseated/in pain from the initial crossbow shot, both of which incur huge penalties to combat rolls. So yeah I think it's fair to say we haven't seen them performing at potential.
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Sep 20, 2014 11:06
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Jack the Lad posted:
I thought this too but a few of the commissioners say weapons are all the same size.
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Sep 20, 2014 12:29
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Spermy Smurf posted:I thought this too but a few of the commissioners say weapons are all the same size. Yup. Evidence: http://arenachallenge.com/dwarffort/view_items_by_race.php
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Sep 20, 2014 12:33
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Spermy Smurf posted:I thought this too but a few of the commissioners say weapons are all the same size. You're quite right, my bad. I think I was getting mixed up with weapon use.
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Sep 20, 2014 15:35
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GRRR. YETI STAB.
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Sep 20, 2014 15:41
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The last match of the round will be up tonight! Stay tuned!
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Sep 20, 2014 18:06
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Good, then we can finally get back to the important stuff. Namely, MY team.
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Sep 20, 2014 18:15
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Bad Munki posted:Good, then we can finally get back to the important stuff. Namely, MY team. You mean MY team.
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Sep 20, 2014 18:22
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That's what I said, MY team. wtf is wrong with you
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Sep 20, 2014 18:29
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VladTheEater posted:GRRR. YETI STAB. First of all, this is absolutely hilarious.  Second, I think it would be interesting to point out that DF Yetis aren't actually all that enormous. Size represents volume in DF, so height is going to scale with the cubic root of it. If humans are size 70, (and let's assume that the average adult human being is 165cm tall, taking both men and women into account) and Yetis size 270, the average Yeti is around 260cm. (probably shorter, since they're usually pictured as bulky creatures) So, they're certainly huge by our standards, but still quite a bit shorter than a pike.
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Sep 20, 2014 20:47
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What are those measurements in real numbers instead of that mumbo jumbo deciliter bullshit?
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Sep 20, 2014 21:01
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8 foot and a bit. Maybe two dwarf.
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Yeah, the OP has some helpful comparison graphics.
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