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Boing posted:Why isn't this Dr Stranglelove. Someone change it I thought it was, I'd appreciate it if it could be changed to this. Edit, also I followed the last thread for a bit but then lost track, I don't know if their were any tournaments since the adventure update which changed combat (especially combat AI) a bit, but if there was could clue me in as to whether it has changed the viability of any builds massively? Shorter Than Some fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Jul 22, 2011 |
# ¿ Jul 22, 2011 21:47 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 04:52 |
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Is there any way to save a build to make testing less tedious?
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2011 12:51 |
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Asehujiko posted:Is there a chance that the number of contestants will be boosted to 256 if we approach that number or will the battle royale be even more ? From the looks of it sign ups are slowing down so it seems pretty unlikely that it will reach that stage. And besides it would be an obscene amount of work for Vox.+
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2011 14:07 |
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It might be worth pointing out that stranglers (and presumably ant women as well) having four limbs can actually wield almost all (if not all) weapons four handedly. They can for example use halberds four-handedly, certain weapons might be 3 handed, but I'm not sure.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2011 20:04 |
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Vox Nihili posted:The game will actually let you cram as many giant weapons into creatures' hands as you tell it to. I'm not sure if the code actually considers using more than two hands to hold a weapon at this point. The weapon tags, anyway, only mention size requirements for single hand and two-handed use. Either way, for tournament purposes, I don't want stranglers wielding halberds and such- I don't think their frame could reasonably handle such large, unwieldy weapons. They're free to carry a ton of smaller items, though, if that's their thing. They also get the coveted bow plus shield combo. Ahh OK I was just testing my strangler and I wondered what would happen if I gave him a weapon which was designated as larger than two handed for him, I assumed it was just because he had four arms but I just checked and yeah a gremlin will still use a halberd.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2011 20:44 |
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Orv posted:Something I kept considering during the last tournament was a dual-spear ant woman. I'm almost tempted to give it a shot, but I suspect the results would be. . .well, messy. How is dual wielding at the moment? Is it still you get parries but no attacks with the offhand? If so is there a way to guarantee which hand is the primary? So for example you don't buy a steel sword that never gets used.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2011 21:14 |
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ZeeToo posted:Useful Info
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2011 22:18 |
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Jazzimus Prime posted:The site is fantastic thanks for all your (and Vox's) hard work, but I was wondering, because at the moment you can only use the website to create your build once the tournament starts and you can only do it for the Fighter you have entered could you release a standalone version where you can build before the tournament begins and for different creatures to test against and whatnot.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2011 13:38 |
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I'm still ummming and ahhing over whether to go nude.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2011 13:50 |
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You can see from this fight that battle AI still needs a bit of work, it's obviously a lot better than before but it really needs some threat analysis. Shouldn't matter too much for the rest of the tournament though since it's one on one.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2011 09:48 |
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When's the deadline to get our fighters submitted by the way Vox? With the new raws I may want to test a little more.
Shorter Than Some fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Jul 28, 2011 |
# ¿ Jul 28, 2011 10:22 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Perfect timing! At this point, everyone should get their builds in ASAP. Only some eight fighters remain unspec'd, and looking at the user names, it's mostly some of our more extensive testers who haven't quite locked things down. In case you mean mine because I have a few points spare, I'm gambling on leaving some points for a little interest though I may change that if I lose my bottle but consider mine done for purposes of working out when to start.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2011 17:54 |
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VladTheEater posted:Yeah, for sure. Adding more points just means the little guys will cap out on useful skills earlier than usual and have nothing left to spend their extra points on. But then they get to clad themselves in adamantium everything. Having said that it was believed at one point in the last thread that armour thickness scales with the size of the creature using it, was that ever confirmed/is it still the case? If so that's a really unfortunate (if kinda realistic) feature which means the little guys which really need more protection get less for their money.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2011 19:44 |
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Okay, thank you. Did you buy the Adamantine helm because Ant-People have vulnerable heads or because it looks cool? Why do they have vulnerable heads?
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2011 20:01 |
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Bozikek posted:Dang it Dwarf, you were suppose to trance! Aw well, we all know who was the best fighter in this battle Royal. Martial trances only happen when a dwarf fights multiple enemies.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2011 22:36 |
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Bozikek posted:Does this not count as multiple enemies? I know it doesn't always happen, I was just hoping it would. My mistake sorry. It completely slipped my mind that you were talking about the battle royale I have just been so focussed with building against one on one matches.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2011 23:01 |
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Jazzimus Prime posted:In case anyone is interested, here are the all time results for all of the races in one-on-one matches. It's probably worth noting that for a while (not sure how long) ant-women were bugged and people didn't realise they were the baby ant-women and so actually smaller than gremlins which may account for their poor record.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2011 11:04 |
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SynthOrange posted:Poor Fatty, even with the advantage of lopping off his opponents arm he couldnt win. Does weight affect piercing weapons at all though? It's still a bad choice though because it's overkill against round one armour and forces you to sacrifice skills.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2011 09:11 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Maybe I'll take out "sensory nerves" in a later version, as they don't seem to add much at the moment. Depends how rare they are I think, if rare then I think it adds a bit of ironic flavor but It could get annoying if it happens all the time. Since I haven't seen you mention it before I imagine it's pretty rare?
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2011 00:08 |
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AXE COP posted:Sweet! To make matters worse you will be splitting your weapon skill points between two weapons and weapon skill is probably the most important skill. Which remind me, I think weapon skill should cost more in the next tournament (maybe not for small creatures), it seems really overpowered compared to other skills, in my tests two or three points in weapon skill will beat a gladiator who has max of a few other skills.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2011 13:42 |
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Krysmphoenix posted:Well, Weapon:Fighting/Archery:Dodging, that's the ratio you've got to tweak. I tweaked it quite a bit, here's hoping what I've got isn't terrible. I'm up next. I have a feeling you may be presently surprised.. I did not test against archers.. I had hoped not to have to fight one first round.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2011 23:49 |
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Oh awesome, I fully expected to lose that match, I did no testing against archers and had tested exhaustively against everything else. Also am I right in thinking we don't know who we will be up against next round?
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2011 15:37 |
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ZeeToo posted:Yeah, your weapon skill is absolutely the biggest determiner of how well you'll do.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2012 11:42 |