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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


Gatts posted:

Aquaman grim and grimacing bein' put in grimy situations!

Eh, why not take a lighthearted JLI approach to Aquaman instead of trying to cool and grim him up? Just a chill King chilling in his Kingdom strolling the oceans doing right where he goes.

F-un? I don't think this strange word exists in the new DCU. Even Blue Beetle's preview focuses on Jaime screaming as the scarab bonds with him.

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Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Ben, buddy, it's a wonderful day to go web slinging!


Hippie Aquaman. He comes out of the water onto the beach with some Earth junk thrown into the oceans and is all "Come on, son! Think!" at the kid who threw it in there and then puts a whale on his shoulder and goes back into the ocean having done a heroic deed. Then he goes home to his wife, Mera, who is frothing with Red Lantern Rage and shakes his head "Man, no respect." and then next morning at work he's got rival clans arguing while he's on his throne amused over their petty squabbling.

Darth Nat
Aug 24, 2007

It all comes out right in the end.


There are only two versions of Aquaman I would be interested in reading: one is Brave and the Bold Aquaman. The other is Aquaman from the Supergirl story in Wednesday Comics, where he's basically a politician constantly getting calls about the troubles the sea sponges are having and stuff.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Ben, buddy, it's a wonderful day to go web slinging!


Yesssss! I need to know which issue or if someone has the panels I can read about Aquaman getting calls about sea sponges having trouble! That's what I want to read! I'm not joking either. Little shorts like that would be awesome.

The other option is to go totally sincere in an old fashioned good natured Aquaman "classic" hero kind of way. Like something Darwyn Cooke could pull off.

Also, Rags' art is beautiful. They should just release a version of the book with his pencils instead of finished coloring and inking.

Semper Fudge
Feb 19, 2009

Pitchfork was wrong. (f)lowers of Algerbong is crap.

Gaz-L posted:

F-un? I don't think this strange word exists in the new DCU. Even Blue Beetle's preview focuses on Jaime screaming as the scarab bonds with him.

According to Gail Simone's twitter, DiDio is specifically asking for pitches for "fun" books for the second wave of ongoings.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


Semper Fudge posted:

According to Gail Simone's twitter, DiDio is specifically asking for pitches for "fun" books for the second wave of ongoings.

I'll say this, if the uproar about women in creative roles and that comment results in them driving a big truck of cash to Jimmy Palmiotti's house to get Amanda to draw a Power Girl book, they can have all my money.

(I know, it's not gonna happen...)

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003

He's AWESOME!


Gaz-L posted:

I'll say this, if the uproar about women in creative roles and that comment results in them driving a big truck of cash to Jimmy Palmiotti's house to get Amanda to draw a Power Girl book, they can have all my money.

(I know, it's not gonna happen...)
If it happened, it would be for two or three issues, since Conner can't keep up with a monthly schedule, unfortunately.

Flameingblack
May 11, 2011

The world is a mess
And I am the one
Who will rebuild it


I'd like to see Amanda Conner drawing Supergirl, maybe the next best thing. Maybe I can start looking past that bad costume if someone else is drawing it.

ShortStack
Jan 16, 2006

And I'm not out of order! You're out of order. The whole freakin system is out of order!


I must be the only person on earth that doesn't like Amanda Conner's art.

Batgirl 14, where her and Supergirl are fighting the Draculas, is my favorite issue of anything ever and I'm afraid DC will never be able to recapture that.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

God damn it get a new avatar already.

I'm shocked by how much I dig Capullo's Batman art. And I'm equally shocked by how much I'm digging Morales' Action pages there.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!


Semper Fudge posted:

Holy poo poo, DC actually apologized for something. Has that ever happened? I don't think they even commented on the whole Ryan Choi thing.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/07/29/we-hear-you/
So Katana is now considered a "fan favorite", but Power Girl doesn't even get a mention?

Semper Fudge
Feb 19, 2009

Pitchfork was wrong. (f)lowers of Algerbong is crap.

They were just mentioning characters who are actually in the relaunch.

I'm pretty sure Geoff Johns is still the only Mera fan in the universe.

Was Taters
Jul 29, 2004

Quick question.
When the clock strikes twelve,
do I get a little kiss?


Semper Fudge posted:

They were just mentioning characters who are actually in the relaunch.

I'm pretty sure Geoff Johns is still the only Mera fan in the universe.

Have you met nodoze? Let me introduce you to my friend nodoze.

Flameingblack
May 11, 2011

The world is a mess
And I am the one
Who will rebuild it


ShortStack posted:

I must be the only person on earth that doesn't like Amanda Conner's art.

Batgirl 14, where her and Supergirl are fighting the Draculas, is my favorite issue of anything ever and I'm afraid DC will never be able to recapture that.
My favorite Supergirl team-up was with Damian in Superman/Batman #77. It was adorable and I'm upset it's going to be awhile before we see Supergirl or Steph in stories like this again. If at all.

Revol
Jul 31, 2003

EHCIARF EMERC...
EHCIARF EMERC...


Rhyno posted:

And I'm equally shocked by how much I'm digging Morales' Action pages there.

Me too. It's not that I don't like his art, it's just that I felt that he was wrong for the title. But his style looks a little different, and it seems to be working.

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006



Semper Fudge posted:

I'm pretty sure Geoff Johns is still the only Mera fan in the universe.

No he is not

Darth Nat
Aug 24, 2007

It all comes out right in the end.


I don't like Morales' art at all, and while I can still see hints of the usual things that bug me in his art (weird crazy eyes and goofy facial expressions), it looks better than most of his stuff I've seen, I suppose.

Flameingblack
May 11, 2011

The world is a mess
And I am the one
Who will rebuild it


Nodoze posted:

No he is not
Doubles. Blackest Night made me a huge Mera fan.

Chinaman7000
Nov 28, 2003



I didn't realize the phrase "Mera fan" could have a non-sarcastic meaning until this point.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

YOU MAY BE STUPID BUT YOU'RE NOT A NEWBIE GODDAMMIT

Mera fans are the same people we have to thank for the return of Babs Gordon.

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006



^burtle posted:

Mera fans are the same people we have to thank for the return of Babs Gordon.

This is not a bad thing

Flameingblack
May 11, 2011

The world is a mess
And I am the one
Who will rebuild it


^burtle posted:

Mera fans are the same people we have to thank for the return of Babs Gordon.
I'm not a fan of Babs-as-Batgirl fan. Mera coming back isn't hurting anyone else though.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

God damn it get a new avatar already.

Flameingblack posted:

I'm not a fan of Babs-as-Batgirl fan. Mera coming back isn't hurting anyone else though.

Think of the Dolphin and Tula fans!

Semper Fudge
Feb 19, 2009

Pitchfork was wrong. (f)lowers of Algerbong is crap.

All 3 of them!

Flameingblack
May 11, 2011

The world is a mess
And I am the one
Who will rebuild it


Rhyno posted:

Think of the Dolphin and Tula fans!


Forget Dolphin, Mera is Queen. Dolphin was just a ditz blond with white hair.

Aquaman v5, Issue #12

Flameingblack fucked around with this message at Jul 31, 2011 around 22:20

Revol
Jul 31, 2003

EHCIARF EMERC...
EHCIARF EMERC...


I never knew they had marital problems. Then again, they are royalty.

I only know Dolphin from Morrison's Animal Man.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005


Rhyno posted:

I'm shocked by how much I dig Capullo's Batman art. And I'm equally shocked by how much I'm digging Morales' Action pages there.

The Capullo stuff looks awesome, Morales looks like he's channeling Lienil Yu a little bit.

Semper Fudge
Feb 19, 2009

Pitchfork was wrong. (f)lowers of Algerbong is crap.

The thing I'm most excited for about he reboot is definitely the art on the vast majority of these books. I think this is definitely the impact of Mark Chiarello's promotion, and it looks like he's (mostly) putting an end to the days of the DC House Style. Yeah, Liefeld, Benes, Finch, and Booth are in the mix, but they're the exception at this point. Even some of the artists I had completely written off like Joe Bennett and Fernando Dagnino (IE, the guys who did all of the ugly issues of Generation Lost) are putting out stuff that looks like this and this. That's a pretty massive improvement when you compare it to this poo poo. Even Phillip Tan is doing some surprisingly strong work.

E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010


You know what I just realized? "Grounded" is the last arc of the "current" Superman we get before the reboot.

That makes me so .

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005


I'm a little confused by Liefield's involvement, because it implies he must actually draw readers to a book who would otherwise be uninterested. He has to command a higher page rate than a random nobody, although said random nobody could doubtless produce the same work. So he has actual, real fans who buy books specifically to see his art.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003


Bleeding Cool rumor mill time: Nicola Scott and James Robinson on a new JSA book?

quote:

Dan DiDio told retailers a month ago that Nicola Scott had an upcoming project at DC Comics. But word from late night San Diego bar gossip is that the project is with James Robinson (no longer writing the Hawkman relaunch) and it’s the much puzzled over Justice Society Of America.

DC has made it clear that Superman and the JLA are the new DCU’s first superheroes, leaving no room for a World War II team transposed to the present day. It appeared they had been written out of continuity.

But there are plans, it seems, not to abandon it entirely. And they’re coming back. I don’t know how, I don’t know who, I don’t know when. All I’ve been told is Scott and Robinson on JSA…

As brought up, there's that mysterious S.T.R.I.P.E. figure Mattel made, claiming that it was the post-relaunch design for the character. It probably makes more sense to cram him, Stargirl, and a few other JSA favorites into a new book rather than giving them all solo titles, and having a female artist on a book would be in line with Didio's claim of more projects with female involvement. Hopefully this comes to pass, and fairly soon.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Stay for our sake

DeimosRising posted:

I'm a little confused by Liefield's involvement, because it implies he must actually draw readers to a book who would otherwise be uninterested. He has to command a higher page rate than a random nobody, although said random nobody could doubtless produce the same work. So he has actual, real fans who buy books specifically to see his art.

Liefeld might get a lot of (deserved) slack but his books sold like gangbusters back in the day. His style appeals to the 13 year old boy who sees big big guns, girls with impossibly huge breasts, lots of swords and anything else that would make said 13 old boy say "awesome". Maybe they are trying to attract those kind of readers to Hawk and Dove. Ha.

Zeeman
May 8, 2007



Madkal posted:

Liefeld might get a lot of (deserved) slack but his books sold like gangbusters back in the day. His style appeals to the 13 year old boy who sees big big guns, girls with impossibly huge breasts, lots of swords and anything else that would make said 13 old boy say "awesome". Maybe they are trying to attract those kind of readers to Hawk and Dove. Ha.

It's a little known fact that 13 year old boys love pouches and hate feet

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003


Variant cover for Justice League #1 revealed, with art by (ugh) Finch.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?...rticle&id=33690

Things to note:
1) Cyborg is missing.
2) Wonder Woman is officially back in shorts (the regular cover has been modified to be pantless too)
3) Other than the new belt, collar, and the gilded cuffs, Finch just pretty much drew the same Superman we got before. I wonder how long it'll be before other artists start just doing the same thing, and his plated armor just becomes a strongman suit again.

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism


Superman looks like some kind of evil puppet master in that variant, exactly what I think of when I think of Superman.

invalid user
Nov 15, 2006

Shit's expensive, bro. Plus, fuck Lurdiak.


Does anyone else dislike the silver metal on Wonder Woman?

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Stay for our sake

You forgot to mention that it looks like Batman is sucking in his gut. I wonder if he thinks he has a weight problem.

bonds0097
Oct 23, 2010

I would cry but I don't think I can spare the moisture.

I'm confused, Wonder Woman looks more like a stripper/dominatrix than she ever did in the old DCU, I thought one of the major initiatives of this soft reboot was less objectification of female characters.

Sanschel
Aug 9, 2002



Wonder Woman looks 13.

I wish we had a :scowl:

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Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006



Space_Butler posted:

Variant cover for Justice League #1 revealed, with art by (ugh) Finch.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?...rticle&id=33690

Things to note:
1) Cyborg is missing.
2) Wonder Woman is officially back in shorts (the regular cover has been modified to be pantless too)
3) Other than the new belt, collar, and the gilded cuffs, Finch just pretty much drew the same Superman we got before. I wonder how long it'll be before other artists start just doing the same thing, and his plated armor just becomes a strongman suit again.

She is not wearing pants cause this is set 5 years in the past

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