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Granted I've been unemployed and stoned on cold medicine fighting some horrible throat based plague the past couple weeks, but did I miss a new comic day? This is really sort of disorienting. EDIT: As this is a new page, I am referencing all the people posting what they plan on buying this Wednesday.
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 05:57 |
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So it just hit me: Godiva is possibly Rip Hunter's mother, if that's still a thing. Rip's mom was depicted voice-only in Time Masters and shown for one panel where she was shown to be a woman with long blond hair and in spandex. Rip's mom's dialogue had the same composed sense of humor as Godiva's shown in JLI when she isn't trying to bang Booster on the spot. And of course, she wants to bang Booster on the spot, so that counts for something too.
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 07:37 |
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Listening to people that aren't constantly on the internet and voicing their opinions and complaining about things, such as us, it's weird to hear that people who have been life-long comic fans are enjoying things like Detective Comics and Batgirl over Swamp Thing and Animal Man.
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 07:43 |
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Sarah Barracuda posted:Agreed. Really, I'm surprised this wasn't done a long time ago. Azz is trying to give us a reason to care about the character by making her more important, and elevate WW to a point where she's actually a credible part of the "Big Three." ImpAtom posted:Hmm, that is bothersome. I thought Wonder Woman's origin was that she was granted powers by all the various Gods, not her mother. Sigh. We'll see how it goes.
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 08:26 |
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Mark Waid's Legion is the poo poo of all shits.
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 08:30 |
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Regarding the WW spoilers, while I can see the points people raise, my thoughts are: First of all, one could argue that even if WW is the child of surprise sex... so what? There are a lot of people who are the children of surprise sex. Secondly, having her father be Zeus doesn't necessarily empower her as "Wonder Woman," looking at Greek mythology. Considering the nearest reasonable comparison, that is to say Hercules, Hercules's power apparently draws in significant part from having been fed at Hera's breast. As such, while perhaps being the child of Zeus would explain why she is six feet tall and has such wonderful hair, her gaining of the powers that make her Wonder Woman, as opposed to Diana of Themyscria, could still come from the goddesses of Greece (also Hermes and why not?  ) would represent a transcendent empowerment. If Zeus is going to be an antagonizing shitbird to the Amazons and his own daughter, then one might even argue this means Wonder Woman would be a superior queen of the gods. Now how's that for an eventual storyline?
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 11:05 |
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Soonmot posted:Granted I've been unemployed and stoned on cold medicine fighting some horrible throat based plague the past couple weeks, but did I miss a new comic day? This is really sort of disorienting.
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 11:22 |
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Frankenstein was my pleasant surprise of the new 52, I completely looked over it at first but it ended up being my favorite. Their leader being a little anime girl is pretty annoying, but not overly intrusive I hope. Not getting much this week but they're all ones I really like hurrah.
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 15:19 |
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There's a tiny aspect of Wonder Woman's origin (Well, the George Perez one, anyway) that may well tie in with this new retconning. The Amazons are the reincarnations of women unjustly killed by men. That's why there's Amazons that don't remotely racially fit into ancient Greek culture. And if I remember right Hippolyta was gestating Diana when she was cut down, so for whatever reason she didn't get fully brought back on Paradise Island until the whole clay thing. So it could very well be a lesser retcon than it seems. Or that's how it'll be retconned away later.
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 17:22 |
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Soonmot posted:Granted I've been unemployed and stoned on cold medicine fighting some horrible throat based plague the past couple weeks, but did I miss a new comic day? This is really sort of disorienting. Easy test: have you read issue 2 of anything? If yes, you haven't missed anything, the second round of #2s is tomorrow.
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 18:01 |
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TheRedEye posted:Easy test: have you read issue 2 of anything? If yes, you haven't missed anything, the second round of #2s is tomorrow. This is what was weirding me out, everyone posting about this weeks #2's already. Losing days is never fun.
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| # ? Oct 11, 2011 22:21 |
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I guess my big issue with the Wonder Woman thing is that it basically turns her into Cassie Sandsmark, since I'm pretty sure her being the daughter of Zeus was a plot point. Have to see, I guess.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 05:45 |
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Regarding the WW topic: It seems quite feasible that Zeus has had several daughters somehow. And if WW got empowered separately (heh heh, Empowered) then she would logically have more mojo than Sandsmark. Hell, if Zeus endorsed Sandsmark that would be kind of cool. Have her have more raw power but WW's diversity of strengths and superior cleverness win the day. Or something.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 09:00 |
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I'm more bummed we now easily associate what the evil mystery bad dude was about in WW#1.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 10:49 |
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Nessus posted:Regarding the WW topic: It seems quite feasible that Zeus has had several daughters somehow. And if WW got empowered separately (heh heh, Empowered) then she would logically have more mojo than Sandsmark. Hell, if Zeus endorsed Sandsmark that would be kind of cool. Have her have more raw power but WW's diversity of strengths and superior cleverness win the day. Or something. What do you mean "somehow?" Mythical Zeus was banging every woman - mortal, god, whatever - he could get his dick into. By which I mean physically, since he had no problem with raping a number of them.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 18:13 |
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Not even his dick some of the time! Golden showers, anyone? And honestly I really don't like any more possible portrayals of surprise sex in comics. Morrison retconning Talia/Bruce into surprise sex made me really uncomfortable, and if that's the route they go with Wonder Woman I'll be pretty uncomfortable too.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 18:26 |
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Can't they at least make it interesting and make it Pluto like they did in the JL Cartoon? Zeus is so boring and cliche. Plus it made Diana's mom more interesting, even if that means Pluto has to be treated like a bad guy in another medium.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 18:35 |
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I liked the first issue of Demon Knights, but I loved the second. Vandal Savage really steals the show, though I think every member of the D&D party gets a good moment in this issue. And it addresses the "why isn't Etrigan rhyming?" question--he only does it when he feels like it, apparently. The only other comic I bought was Batwoman, and it was sort of the prototypical "middle of the arc, nothing happens" issue, but I still enjoyed it. Any new readers picking this up are going to be so out of the loop, though.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 19:07 |
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Yawgmoft posted:Can't they at least make it interesting and make it Pluto like they did in the JL Cartoon? Zeus is so boring and cliche. Plus it made Diana's mom more interesting, even if that means Pluto has to be treated like a bad guy in another medium. Wow, I literally could not disagree more because JLU's depiction of Hades and the Underworld in general was terrible in almost every regard and I would go as far as to call that episode the worst episode of both JL series. I think using the actual Zeus from Greek Mythology and not the whitewashed Disney version is far, far more interesting than the "I'm basically just Satan" depiction of Hades.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 19:15 |
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I just got back from the comic book store, sadly my shop didn't order any Shade 
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 19:24 |
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Rand alPaul posted:I just got back from the comic book store, sadly my shop didn't order any Shade You didn't miss much; it's decent overall, but the dialogue is really florid and stilted throughout most of it, and it's pretty irritating.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 19:30 |
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I spent over 30 dollars in comics today. There goes my weekly budget. Also, gently caress the haters! Suicide Squad was awesome and had some good team dynamics and I am growing to like Deadshots costume. It is easy on the political intrigue but does what a good Suicide Squad comic should do ie. have the team go into missions that are batshit insane, have them barely make it out only to throw back into some more batshit insanity. Also read Demon Knights and this one is definitely a keeper. We did get introduced to some more characters who I was scratching my head to, trying to remember if they were introduced in the first issue, but thankfully it was explained. Savage was amazing in this comic (talking about past eating habits) and all the character's are awesome. I like that this hasn't turned into a team book quite yet, but is heading that way. Other comics on the way: Batgirl, Batman and Robin, Batwoman, Resurrection Man, Green Lantern.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 19:53 |
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 Poor Alfred.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 20:25 |
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Rand alPaul posted:I just got back from the comic book store, sadly my shop didn't order any Shade I have no idea how it's going to fit into the new DC. It's a direct continuation of characters from Starman who can not exist as he did in the new reality.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 21:23 |
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Rhyno posted:I have no idea how it's going to fit into the new DC. It's a direct continuation of characters from Starman who can not exist as he did in the new reality.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 21:33 |
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Issue two of Demon Knights seals it, my personal favorite book of the reboot. Frankenstein was kinda meh this week, but the set up for next issue seems worth it.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 21:57 |
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necessary voodoo posted:Not even his dick some of the time! Golden showers, anyone? According to this weeks Batman and Robin, Bruce and Talia was consensual.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 22:09 |
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I got a big kick out of Deathstroke. At first it seems like there's going to be a 4-5 page establishing action sequence in the beginning to show how much of a badass Slade is before the comic can go into whatever story is going on. Only the sequence refuses to end and as it keeps going forward more and more, it continues to get increasingly ridiculous by the page. By the time it's done, the issue is over and there's a smile on my face. Quick read, but great. Also, the issue is titled Carpocalypse so you know you're in for a treat.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2011 23:03 |
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Soonmot posted:According to this weeks Batman and Robin, Bruce and Talia was consensual. I'm aware! I was speaking of the pre-reboot time, when the original change took place. I'm glad that it's not canon anymore, but that doesn't mean I'm any less creeped out by the time when it was.
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| # ? Oct 13, 2011 00:05 |
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So I finally got around to reading Action #2 and Rags' art really takes me out of it. The covers he draws are magnificent and there's 3 or 4 really awesome looking panels but the rest of it looks like he's drawing the gunner from Spaceballs and it's difficult to ignore.
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| # ? Oct 13, 2011 00:08 |
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Soonmot posted:According to this weeks Batman and Robin, Bruce and Talia was consensual. And Bruce never told Damian that he was proud of him? Even though it was a heart-warming panel in B&R 16?
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bairfanx posted:And Bruce never told Damian that he was proud of him? Even though it was a heart-warming panel in B&R 16? Yeah kinda thinking of dropping B&R after this issue. The scene with Damian and the bat was lazy and unnecessary. It took me a while to start really liking the kid, I don't want to spend money on issues that make him and Bruce seem like one-dimensional brats again.
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| # ? Oct 13, 2011 00:51 |
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Sarah Barracuda posted:Yeah kinda thinking of dropping B&R after this issue. The scene with Damian and the bat was lazy and unnecessary. It took me a while to start really liking the kid, I don't want to spend money on issues that make him and Bruce seem like one-dimensional brats again. I disagree here. Bruce talks about nature vs nurture early on and about how he hopes he can make Damian a real man and not a crazy person like his mom. I don't think you're supposed to think that he's bring a bratty little poo poo, I think they're implying he's a serial killer in the making. That's the real crux of the "nature vs nurture"
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| # ? Oct 13, 2011 01:02 |
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Nature vs Nurture was already brilliantly done when after paling around with Dick Grayson, he tells his Mom and Grandpa to gently caress off and he hopes he can be hero enough to take them down. Re-launching this is a snooze.
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| # ? Oct 13, 2011 01:15 |
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Ominous Jazz posted:I disagree here. Bruce talks about nature vs nurture early on and about how he hopes he can make Damian a real man and not a crazy person like his mom. I don't think you're supposed to think that he's bring a bratty little poo poo, I think they're implying he's a serial killer in the making. That's the real crux of the "nature vs nurture" True, and there's evidence in the issue that Damian has the potential to overcome his training. It's just kind of losing a lot of what had made Damian likeable. This was addressed nicely in Damian's interactions with Dick. We were left knowing that Damian *can* defy that training. It was more a question of how he'd respond to Bruce's tutelage than Dick's. I expected the conflict between Bruce and Damian would be over how they relate and work together, not whether or not Damian will inevitably become a killing machine. This may belong in the Batman thread though, sorry.
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| # ? Oct 13, 2011 01:18 |
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So, does anybody think Resethoodface McButtonglowlady is going to show up in any of the other #2s? I'm just very curious about her.
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| # ? Oct 13, 2011 01:19 |
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^burtle posted:Nature vs Nurture was already brilliantly done when after paling around with Dick Grayson, he tells his Mom and Grandpa to gently caress off and he hopes he can be hero enough to take them down. Re-launching this is a snooze. Batman and Robin = What if Darkseid's Omega Beam missed and Dick never had to become Batman. That's where they've decided to start what was going on between Bruce and Damian in the DCU for B&R. They had to squeeze character development in there some how, so they chose the easy route. "It sold great before with Dick, so it will sell even better with Bruce!" - Dan Didio (not an actual quote). But the new readers have to hate Damian first and then grow to love him like we did, so there is that reason. However, I think we all hope this doesn't poo poo on Damian's respect for Dick; the kind of respect that carried into Batman #666 for instance. Shookies fucked around with this message at Oct 13, 2011 around 01:48 |
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Wait Dick's time as Batman has been retconned? Is that right?
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| # ? Oct 13, 2011 01:49 |
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necessary voodoo posted:Wait Dick's time as Batman has been retconned? Is that right? No Dickbat still happened (he even talks about it in Nightwing), Shookies was just making a joke, one I happen to agree with.
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| # ? Oct 13, 2011 01:50 |
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gogisha posted:No Dickbat still happened (he even talks about it in Nightwing), Shookies was just making a joke, one I happen to agree with. How does that make sense, I thought Batman died in a Crisis and none of the Crises ever happened?
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