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For those of you who have never read a DC comic before: Hello, and welcome. There's a lot to be excited about, as DC has taken the only slightly precedented step of completely revitalizing their entire output of stories. With classic icons and a broad array of niche-oriented characters they hope to appeal to whatever tastes you may have. For old readers: Stay calm. Breathe. WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS.  Starting in September all titles will be available digitally the same day that the physical copies hit the stands. DC will be publishing 52 new and like-new titles, each starting at issue #1. Interrelated titles are helpfully categorized under appropriate banners as per The Source blog. SUPERMAN Superman, Action Comics, Superboy, Supergirl The first arc of Action Comics will feature a younger, brasher Superman. After that it'll catch up to the modern day where the most major revision is Clark & Lois having never married, or even dated. Superboy gets amnesia and Supergirl is new to Earth, with both having slightly tweaked powersets. BATMAN Batman, Detective Comics, Batwing, Batman: The Dark Knight, Batman and Robin, Batgirl, Batwoman, Nightwing, Catwoman, Birds of Prey, Red Hood and The Outlaws Not much has changed for Bruce Wayne, but Dick Grayson is back to being Nightwing, Jason Todd may not have died in the first place, and Barbara Gordon no longer needs a wheelchair thanks to physical therapy. The story of Batman, Inc. picks up in October, before heading to its conclusion in Batman: Leviathan. GREEN LANTERN Green Lantern, Green Lantern Corps, Green Lantern: The New Guardians, Red Lanterns You know Green Lantern. He's your favorite. Seriously, drat near nothing has changed as part of the reboot. That said, in the course of his normal adventures Hal Jordan lost his power ring to Sinestro of all people. Meanwhile Kyle Rayner is up to his balls in rings of every color. JUSTICE LEAGUE Justice League, Justice League International, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, THE FLASH, Captain Atom, The Fury of Firestorm, Green Arrow, The Savage Hawkman, Mister Terrific, DC Universe Presents A catch-all category for normal superheroes. In the New 52, most superheroes are just starting their careers, with the Justice League itself barely 5 years old. DC Universe Presents is a rotating feature which changes creators and characters every few issues. Wonder Woman's current pants status: short. THE DARK Justice League Dark, Swamp Thing, Animal Man, Frankenstein: Agent of SHADE, I, Vampire, Resurrection Man, Demon Knights Stories of magic, the supernatural, and even horror. JL Dark is a team-up of various well-known magicians, Demon Knights is set in medieval Europe just after the fall of Camelot, and the rest are fairly self-explanatory. THE EDGE Stormwatch, Voodoo, Grifter, Deathstroke, Suicide Squad, O.M.A.C., Blackhawks, Men of War, All-Star Western Superheroes with a military, para-military, or outright mercenary bent. Many of these are former Wildstorm titles, and All-Star Western picks up where Gray & Palmiotti's Jonah Hex series left off. YOUNG JUSTICE Teen Titans, Static Shock, Hawk & Dove, Blue Beetle, Legion of Superheroes, Legion Lost Exactly what it says, these are teenage & young adult superheroes. Oddly enough, the LoSH remains unchanged despite all the reboots flying around. I guess they built up a tolerance for it. This version of the Teen Titans will come together for the first time, although interviews have suggested the original and Wolfman-Perez versions were around in the past. HitTheTargets fucked around with this message at Sep 29, 2011 around 01:03 |
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I haven't bought a single issue of anything since 2007. Only a few trades. I dropped monthly comics altogether because it was too expensive of a habit. I landed a great-paying job shortly after that but never got back into it. I've been getting the itch again after lending a bunch of great series and runs to some friends who don't have much experience in comics. I actually attended some comics-related panels at SDCC this year. All that, along with this sorta-reboot at DC, I'm really itching to start buying monthly comics again. And I recently lost the aforementioned well-paying job. I'm a masochist.
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 18:06 |
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Looking at the JLA picture up top it looks like Cyborg has the chin of American Dad's Stan Smith. Now I can't unsee it. Also please be good Suicide Squad. Please be good.
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 18:43 |
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Suicide Squad has absolutely no hope of being good. Legion of Doom is an atrocity, Marco Rudy is only doing the first issue, and Glass thinks the best way to promote his book is by making GBS threads all over the Ostrander run. gently caress him.
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 18:56 |
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I may be alone, but I'm looking forward to this reboot. Plus, I doubt any of the huge changes are permanent. For instance, I'm willing to bet they broke up with Lois & Clark marriage so they can redo the entire romance subplot of his story. In a year or two we'll be right back to the old DC.
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 18:57 |
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Semper Fudge posted:Suicide Squad has absolutely no hope of being good. Legion of Doom is an atrocity, Marco Rudy is only doing the first issue, and Glass thinks the best way to promote his book is by making GBS threads all over the Ostrander run. gently caress him. In the DC 52 redesign panel, Jim Lee basically said "Everyone thinks the redesigns for Suicide Squad are terrible."
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 19:27 |
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So I read somewhere that Donna Troy and Cassie Sandsmark are now the same person? Is this true? Cassie is a way better character than Donna ever was.
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 19:42 |
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Esroc posted:I may be alone, but I'm looking forward to this reboot. Plus, I doubt any of the huge changes are permanent. For instance, I'm willing to bet they broke up with Lois & Clark marriage so they can redo the entire romance subplot of his story. In a year or two we'll be right back to the old DC. I actually am too. I've had a lot of issues with a lot of things (largely nitpicky), but on the whole, I think it'll all work out in the end. At best, there'll be neat new stories, at worst it'll all be status quo'd and/or bad books getting canceled.
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 20:11 |
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Semper Fudge posted:Suicide Squad has absolutely no hope of being good. Legion of Doom is an atrocity, Marco Rudy is only doing the first issue, and Glass thinks the best way to promote his book is by making GBS threads all over the Ostrander run. gently caress him. "Adam Glass posted:I grew up reading the SUICIDE SQUAD and have nothing but the utmost respect for all those who came before me. But I feel the world has changed and people want even their fantasy to have more reality to it. Look at James Bond’s Casino Royale. It was a new Bond for a new generation. Harder, smarter, less cheese. That’s what we’re doing with SUICIDE SQUAD. I suppose that can be seen as critical of the notion that Ostrander's run was a perfect, timeless classic, but it's certainly not "making GBS threads all over" the book. You can still gently caress him if you really want to, though.
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 20:21 |
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So does reboot mean minor dead characters coming back to life? My friend gave me one of his collections, and I really liked the Question passing his title on to the other woman. Him being alive again would be odd. (I don't really know comics, sorry if this is stupid) e: Also Batman has 12 comics? What? Tremendous Taste fucked around with this message at Jul 25, 2011 around 21:53 |
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No, because there are not going to be any resurrections after Blackest Night (yes.)
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 21:48 |
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Tremendous Taste posted:So does reboot mean minor dead characters coming back to life? My friend gave me one of his collections, and I really liked the Question passing his title on to the other woman. Him being alive again would be odd. I'm sure some will pop up here and there. Nothing has been said as far as I know though, of any particulars.
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 21:53 |
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Matt Cruea posted:So I read somewhere that Donna Troy and Cassie Sandsmark are now the same person? Is this true? Cassie is a way better character than Donna ever was. Cassie's using Donna's outfit, so unless they make Donna Troy a WW clone sometime down the road, don't see where she's going to show up. Donna was constantly being hosed over with though, so it's almost a mercy killing.
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 22:12 |
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Is someone decent going to be writing Teen Titans (i.e. not bloody McKeever)? Runaways went a bit crap, Young Avengers seems to be stuck in limbo, which left Teen Titans. Is it too much to ask for the Young Justice line-up, or should I learn to let go and move on? e: I guess there's Legion of Super-heroes, but whenever that gets interesting, it gets rebooted into the ground. Milotic fucked around with this message at Jul 25, 2011 around 22:41 |
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Flameingblack posted:Cassie's using Donna's outfit, so unless they make Donna Troy a WW clone sometime down the road, don't see where she's going to show up. Donna was constantly being hosed over with though, so it's almost a mercy killing. Unfortunately it looks like they're just passing that torch down to Cassie, what with being marketed as a "mysterious and belligerent thief." And on that note, here's a Wonder Girl costume design that apparently got rejected:  That is so much better than the version they went with. Here we have something that's very character-appropriate and recognizable, yet they went with "I dunno, like, some kind of romper suit that looks like a red starfield. Oh, and give her a barbed-wire lasso, and have her constantly scowling"? Fantabulero fucked around with this message at Jul 25, 2011 around 23:12 |
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Fantabulero posted:Unfortunately it looks like they're just passing that torch down to Cassie, what with being marketed as a "mysterious and belligerent thief."
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Endless Mike posted:Yes, but at least that is explained in four words. Can you do that with Donna Troy? Not so much. Fantabulero posted:That is so much better than the version they went with. Here we have something that's very character-appropriate and recognizable, yet they went with "I dunno, like, some kind of romper suit that looks like a red starfield. Oh, and give her a barbed-wire lasso, and have her constantly scowling"? The barbed wire just screams 90's. e: I'm glad they didn't go with the Toga for her casual-wear. Flameingblack fucked around with this message at Jul 25, 2011 around 23:29 |
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Fantabulero posted:Unfortunately it looks like they're just passing that torch down to Cassie, what with being marketed as a "mysterious and belligerent thief." I think they should just have given her a version of Donna Troy's costume below.  Just change the outfit's look from a black starfield to Wonder Woman's red, white & blue (with gold) star-spangled design, keep WW's tiara, and you've got a costume that is still feminine and still keeps the things that say "Wonder Woman" without being too overtly cheesecake.
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 23:31 |
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Why doesn't the OP mention the biggest part of the reboot: All 52 books will be day-and-date digital.
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Edge & Christian posted:I agree about the book not sounding very promising, but where has he been "making GBS threads all over the Ostrander run"? It looks like it is aiming for more of a cross between Ostrander's run and Simone's Secret Six (which I loved). Hopefully it finds some kind of middle ground. Honestly if it just went on to become like Secret Six I would have no issues with it.
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 23:37 |
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Milotic posted:Is someone decent going to be writing Teen Titans (i.e. not bloody McKeever)? Runaways went a bit crap, Young Avengers seems to be stuck in limbo, which left Teen Titans. Is it too much to ask for the Young Justice line-up, or should I learn to let go and move on? read Avengers Academy Joe Don Baker posted:Why doesn't the OP mention the biggest part of the reboot: All 52 books will be day-and-date digital. I don't really think that the consumer vector makes for as interesting conversation as the books themselves, especially with such ridiculous pricing
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| # ? Jul 25, 2011 23:41 |
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In case anyone here read the New 52 thread but not the DC megathread, I'll repost what I posted last night:quote:Crossposting from the animation thread, DC announced the animated movies coming in 2012:
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| # ? Jul 26, 2011 00:02 |
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If anyone's wonder, confirmed "Major events" are: Death in the Family, Blackest Night, Brightest Day, The Killing Joke, Identity Crisis. That's just so far, Blackest Night is the most interesting one since the DC Universe has only been around for five years. That's a ton of deaths in five years.
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Edge & Christian posted:I agree about the book not sounding very promising, but where has he been "making GBS threads all over the Ostrander run"? I was referring more to this. quote:Adam Glass says "I remember reading the books with Bronze Tiger like playing cards or having coffee with Deathstroke, and I said NO, these are hardened criminals" http://www.newsarama.com/comics/sdc...dge-110723.html
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Tremendous Taste posted:So does reboot mean minor dead characters coming back to life? My friend gave me one of his collections, and I really liked the Question passing his title on to the other woman. Him being alive again would be odd. You probably read 52; that's the book where the handover happened. The Question subplot was my favorite in the entire amazing book, and it was honestly perfect. It inspired me to go back and read the O'Neil run which more or less defined the original, Vic Sage, and it would be an absolute travesty to undo the conclusion to Vic's story. Montoya's a great heir to the mask and fedora, and going back on that would almost be as bad as going back on Wally as The Flash. ...oh gently caress.
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| # ? Jul 26, 2011 00:36 |
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Flameingblack posted:If anyone's wonder, confirmed "Major events" are: Aw gently caress, Identity Crisis is still canon. I guess I knew it had to happen but I was faintly holding out hope that poo poo was hitting the retcon bin. I guess that means no chance of Sue and Ralph getting resurrected. 
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| # ? Jul 26, 2011 00:39 |
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Colonel Pancreas posted:You probably read 52; that's the book where the handover happened. The Question subplot was my favorite in the entire amazing book, and it was honestly perfect. It inspired me to go back and read the O'Neil run which more or less defined the original, Vic Sage, and it would be an absolute travesty to undo the conclusion to Vic's story. Montoya's a great heir to the mask and fedora, and going back on that would almost be as bad as going back on Wally as The Flash. I'm pretty sure JH Williams has said Renee's involved in his Batwoman, so while they might go back on it, I'm guessing they won't. Especially as having her as an ex-cop makes more sense with what seemed to be a potential relationship with Maggie Sawyer and Kate. More tension, and it makes more sense to play up that Renee knows both sides of Kate.
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| # ? Jul 26, 2011 00:47 |
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Some guy posted:"No one's gonna be sitting around having coffee. They go in, they get a bullet stuck in their leg, get pulled out of a hole and they're done." Maybe it makes sense if the book has a strictly episodic "done-in-one" approach with each issue being a mission with very mild overarching plot bits, but...
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| # ? Jul 26, 2011 00:55 |
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Colonel Pancreas posted:You probably read 52; that's the book where the handover happened. The Question subplot was my favorite in the entire amazing book, and it was honestly perfect. It inspired me to go back and read the O'Neil run which more or less defined the original, Vic Sage, and it would be an absolute travesty to undo the conclusion to Vic's story. Montoya's a great heir to the mask and fedora, and going back on that would almost be as bad as going back on Wally as The Flash. However, the Question is most definitive as Vic Sage, and that incarnation was the one of the breakout stars of Justice League Unlimited (even if he had a personality based more on Rorschach than the Question, but that's neither here nor there), which is where most new readers would have been exposed to him. If Vic Sage was ever going to come back, now is the time.
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| # ? Jul 26, 2011 00:58 |
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Grandpa Pap posted:I think they should just have given her a version of Donna Troy's costume below. Ugh no. That costume is almost as terrible as the code name "Troia" Milotic posted:Is someone decent going to be writing Teen Titans (i.e. not bloody McKeever)? Runaways went a bit crap, Young Avengers seems to be stuck in limbo, which left Teen Titans. Is it too much to ask for the Young Justice line-up, or should I learn to let go and move on? Oh you. Scott Lobdell is the new writer for Teen Titans and Superboy. Welcome to my world of eternal misery and suffering. Grab a seat!
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| # ? Jul 26, 2011 01:16 |
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Grandpa Pap posted:I think they should just have given her a version of Donna Troy's costume below. The best thing would have been to keep her current outfit
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I've yet to read a single interview by Lobdell that made me fear for the quality of that book. He even rips apart the Statue Memorial they keep in their basement. If it wasn't for Brett Booth, I would be downright excited for this book.
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| # ? Jul 26, 2011 01:27 |
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The Goon posted:
Lobdell wrote some pretty solid X-Men tales back in the 90's. They weren't great but they were good. He gets the idea of team dynamics, and is hardly the worst writer out there. edit: Also he wrote Generation X which I thought was really really good. So another positive writing a team book with a teen cast.
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| # ? Jul 26, 2011 01:37 |
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Grandpa Pap posted:I liked that costume better on Starman. OnimaruXLR posted:Did... this... does this strike anyone else as profoundly stupid? Does he think hardened criminals just commit crimes, have unprotected sex, chug liquor and then pass out while crapping and wetting the bed? What?? Honestly, one of my favorite things in comics is to see Superheroes and Villains do completely mundane things in their spare time. That or do really petty things with their powers. I think it makes the characters more human then just doing "witty" quips during action segments. Glass and I just have completely different ideas on what we find enjoyable in comics.
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Dr. Hurt posted:Honestly, one of my favorite things in comics is to see Superheroes and Villains do completely mundane things in their spare time. That or do really petty things with their powers. I think it makes the characters more human then just doing "witty" quips during action segments. Glass and I just have completely different ideas on what we find enjoyable in comics. Yeah, for instance, one of my favorite Deathstroke scenes ever is when he and Black Mask have a brief conversation over whether some human-panther hybrid villain is male or female in one of the books leading up to Infinite Crisis. It's just such a goofy thing that you don't imagine villains thinking about. I would love to read more about Deathstroke having coffee with random other villains, and much less... everything else that's been done with Deathstroke.
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| # ? Jul 26, 2011 01:46 |
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How likely is it that the inspiration for Harley's new look is literally that she's in a book called Suicide Squad, and there's a porn site that also has 'Suicide' in the name?
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Darth Nat posted:I would love to read more about Deathstroke having coffee with random other villains, and much less... everything else that's been done with Deathstroke. Deathstroke teams up with Lex Luthor to grab a bite to eat at a pizza place and talk about the economy. Unfortunately Larfleeze tags along and he eats it all.
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| # ? Jul 26, 2011 01:53 |
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Nodoze posted:The best thing would have been to keep her current outfit Well naturally, but seeing as how DC was hellbent on rearranging everyone's iconic outfits anyways... Also, to be clear: I wasn't saying "Wonder Woman needs a sparkly starfield outfit"  so much as I was saying "take the cut of Donna's outfit and replace the starfield stuff with WW's stuff". You know, instead of giving her retractable pants. 
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ImpAtom posted:Aw gently caress, Identity Crisis is still canon. I guess I knew it had to happen but I was faintly holding out hope that poo poo was hitting the retcon bin. I guess that means no chance of Sue and Ralph getting resurrected.
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How do they even keep Identity Crisis canon with a compressed 5 year existence for the JLA, and why even bother? The characters chiefly effected are all either dead (the Dibny's, Doctor Light, Jean Loring), don't seem to have a corner in the DCnU (Ray Palmer) or have already had the developments of Identity Crisis retconned (Firestorm, Captain Boomerang).
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