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Kazerad
Aug 1, 2011

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blastron posted:

Please, please write up a post describing the trends between new reader engagement and the depravity of the porn on the referring page.

I want to hold out until I have more data. Though so far I am noticing that people looking at a porn image seem to be way more likely to click ads (even if the ad is, like, just a headshot and a title), whereas people looking at a really weird porn image are more likely to turn around and leave immediately after clicking. I'm not sure how to interpret that.

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Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Prequel: Weird Porn Analytics

Cthulhuchan
Nov 10, 2005

Rose: Sip martini thoughtfully.

Such as this one.

Just a tiny sip couldn't hurt...
The clear conclusion is that vanilla porn perusers are suckers.

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠

Kazerad posted:

I'm not sure how to interpret that.

Sounds like you need to add more things from that weird sex show if you want to attract some readers.

I suggest Cars, toenails, and the Statue of Liberty. Just slather it with some juicy muffler shots.

Zoe
Jan 19, 2007
Hair Elf
I've been loving this entire scene with the shopkeeper lady. The line about Khajiit hearts and "I'd like to sell you this spear and I'm very sorry," got a big smile and Katia's kind of learning how to...well not haggle maybe, but I'm impressed she's made all these transactions without getting ripped off. Seems to have found an especially patient shopkeeper though, I'm sure that helps.

Now lemme just go find some really weird porn and then see how my opinion of this strip is impacted on a reread.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I've yet to see any Prequel ads in my weird porn, clearly I need to go further down the rabbit hole.

khy
Aug 15, 2005

Kazerad posted:

I want to hold out until I have more data. Though so far I am noticing that people looking at a porn image seem to be way more likely to click ads (even if the ad is, like, just a headshot and a title), whereas people looking at a really weird porn image are more likely to turn around and leave immediately after clicking. I'm not sure how to interpret that.

I'm confused. Does this mean that there is both porn and 'weird porn' of Katia, and the former generates more clicks than the latter?

Or does this mean that people watching porn/weird porn are getting katia advertisements, and only the former click on the katia advertisements?

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

khy posted:

I'm confused. Does this mean that there is both porn and 'weird porn' of Katia, and the former generates more clicks than the latter?

Or does this mean that people watching porn/weird porn are getting katia advertisements, and only the former click on the katia advertisements?

LOOKING at porn. Boorus are image galleries.

Kazerad
Aug 1, 2011

Unshamed by Koos

khy posted:

I'm confused. Does this mean that there is both porn and 'weird porn' of Katia, and the former generates more clicks than the latter?

Or does this mean that people watching porn/weird porn are getting katia advertisements, and only the former click on the katia advertisements?

I bought advertising on a Booru-style image board (like my own Fanart page), and I'm going to be getting some more. Images on most of these sites can be of various content ratings, and there will typically be ad displayed above/below the image. Because of how these sites work, each image on them has its own URL and will show up in my Referrers as one visit from that page, and the "average pages per session" for individuals from that page will show me how many pages were viewed by that person. This means I can see what image someone was looking at when they saw my ad and said "yes, I am going to click that". Then, I can see how many pages that person read before they left.

I didn't actually realize I'd have this ability; I was trying out something completely different (I'll explain it some other time, I don't want to mess up the results). But, it's kind of neat seeing... well, I guess what sort of images are looked at by the sort of people who actually click banner ads.

Kazerad fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Jul 31, 2015

khy
Aug 15, 2005

Kazerad posted:

I bought advertising on a Booru-style image board (like my own Fanart page), and I'm going to be getting some more. Images on most of these sites can be of various content ratings, and there will typically be ad displayed above/below the image. Because of how these sites work, each image on them has its own URL and will show up in my Referrers as one visit from that page, and the "average pages per session" for individuals from that page will show me how many pages were viewed by that person. This means I can see what image someone was looking at when they saw my ad and said "yes, I am going to click that". Then, I can see how many pages that person read before they left.

Curiosity compels me to ask whether or not the booru actually has Katia porn and whether or not showing a katia ad on katia porn generates clicks.

If the booru does NOT have Katia porn, you should see about advertising on one that does and see whether or not katia porn generates clicks. Inquiring minds wish to know.

Kazerad
Aug 1, 2011

Unshamed by Koos

khy posted:

Curiosity compels me to ask whether or not the booru actually has Katia porn and whether or not showing a katia ad on katia porn generates clicks.

If the booru does NOT have Katia porn, you should see about advertising on one that does and see whether or not katia porn generates clicks. Inquiring minds wish to know.

It doesn't, but I'm going to run this one on a site that does:



I wanted to get it only displayed over images with the Prequel tag but they said their advertising system didn't have the infrastructure for that.

khy
Aug 15, 2005

Kazerad posted:

It doesn't, but I'm going to run this one on a site that does:



I wanted to get it only displayed over images with the Prequel tag but they said their advertising system didn't have the infrastructure for that.

That owns. Keep us updated as to the weird ad stats!

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.

Kazerad posted:

I want to hold out until I have more data. Though so far I am noticing that people looking at a porn image seem to be way more likely to click ads (even if the ad is, like, just a headshot and a title), whereas people looking at a really weird porn image are more likely to turn around and leave immediately after clicking. I'm not sure how to interpret that.

Wait, this isn't severed head porn? I'm outta here!

Magres
Jul 14, 2011

Kazerad posted:

It doesn't, but I'm going to run this one on a site that does:



I wanted to get it only displayed over images with the Prequel tag but they said their advertising system didn't have the infrastructure for that.

This is the best

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

clearly I need to go further down the rabbit hole.

That's a different comic.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Kaz you fucker stop sitting on those numbers, I want to see the SmutFacts

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Kazerad posted:

I want to hold out until I have more data. Though so far I am noticing that people looking at a porn image seem to be way more likely to click ads (even if the ad is, like, just a headshot and a title), whereas people looking at a really weird porn image are more likely to turn around and leave immediately after clicking. I'm not sure how to interpret that.

the tablet i only use with the door locked is hard to balance on my stomach.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Grapplejack posted:

Kaz you fucker stop sitting on those numbers, I want to see the SmutFacts

Don't lie.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Finding new porn through the non-porn interests you share with others. It's a brave new world of analytics.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


I hope you're not implying Prequel isn't porn of some form or another

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Local goon unironically masturbates to ironic misery porn.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Normal Adult Human posted:

this thread unironically masturbates to ironic misery porn.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
It's a pretty odd kind of porn that ends up with the chick wearing more at the end than when she started.

Kazerad
Aug 1, 2011

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WarpedNaba posted:

It's a pretty odd kind of porn that ends up with the chick wearing more at the end than when she started.


A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.

This looks like one of those Strong Bad storytime books, almost.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Squeegy posted:

I hope you're not implying Prequel isn't porn of some form or another

I don't see Prequel as being porn, just a porn enabler.

But anyway, where are those raw stats Kazerad? Please make a graph of views per fetish, so I can sneer and/or cultivate a horrifying new interest over my morning coffee.

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
yeah kazard please link us to all the furry websites you know about so that we can masturbate at them ironically

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
So, I just spend the last 3 days reading the whole comic and then this thread. I had quite a lot of fun with it.
Reading a four year old thread is kind of interesting, since some of the early posters are long permabanned by now. But I kind of like how open and rational Kazerad seems to act. And that little cooking story was gross but quite entertaining. And the statistical datamining really intrigued me.
While the thread was downright unreadable on some pages, I really had a great time.

See you all in a few months.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Kazerad, every other update: This update is a lot more complicated and time consuming than I anticipated! No way my past experiences could have predicted this.

Dude hasn't been on Steam for over a month and he still hasn't finished the update. Hope he's not dead.

radintorov
Feb 18, 2011

Squeegy posted:

Dude hasn't been on Steam for over a month and he still hasn't finished the update. Hope he's not dead.
He commented less than a day ago in one of the website's pages, so he should be fine in that regard. :shobon:

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It
Oh, this is still kicking around? If it wasn't for this thread I would totally forget its existence

Gruckles
Mar 11, 2013

In case anyone still cares, there was an update this morning. Along with a sidestory flash, an Indiegogo thing for merch, and another sidestory that automatically updates as the Indiegogo gets more money.

McFrugal
Oct 11, 2003
I found secrets in the sidestory flash.

Here's what I've found:
A.First off, you can temporarily escape the ghost in the first nightmare. This is done by:
Luring the ghost onto the ship's helm, and while it's climbing up the stairs you can get around it via the other stairwell. There will be something even spookier at the front of the ship.
B.Second, you can escape the hold that's being flooded in the second nightmare. This is done by(two following spoilers):
B1.This requires some preparation. First, you need to investigate the dumbwaiter in the captain's quarters so that he tells you there's one leading to food storage(in the hold). Second, you have to check several specific crates amongst the ones in the hold, so that they contain needed items during the nightmare. Once you have this information, you escape the nightmare by:
B2.First checking the door, which will make katia break the lockpick and decide to check the storage for something to destroy the door with. Then you have to go get a wand of greater fireball, which Katia will say is too dangerous to use by itself. After that you have to get a tube out of the dwarven ruin excavation crate, and finally you need to get a weight out of one of the crates near the scale (I forget which).
C.I'm not sure if you have to complete both previous nightmares for this to happen, but the third nightmare will be completely different:
C1.Instead of the crewmates eating Katia via the Wild Hunt, you wake up and find a tiny AKATOSH in the dream-hold.

Also there's a khajiit hiding in the women's bathroom during the first(and maybe second) day. Gee, I wonder who that could be.

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

Gruckles posted:

In case anyone still cares, there was an update this morning. Along with a sidestory flash, an Indiegogo thing for merch, and another sidestory that automatically updates as the Indiegogo gets more money.

It should be pointed out that the sidestory flash is a walkaround.

Iunnrais
Jul 25, 2007

It's gaelic.
I can't even find out how to get Katia to go to sleep in the flash side adventure. I feel like I've interacted with every crate, box, barrel, chest, and living creature on board the ship, but she still says there's more to do before going to sleep.

Gruckles
Mar 11, 2013

Iunnrais posted:

I can't even find out how to get Katia to go to sleep in the flash side adventure. I feel like I've interacted with every crate, box, barrel, chest, and living creature on board the ship, but she still says there's more to do before going to sleep.

Check out the Captain's Quarters. There's a staircase to it on deck, to the left of the of the wheel.

Zoe
Jan 19, 2007
Hair Elf
That was a huge rear end walk around, I'm just sorry it kept the tiny main update from going up for so long.

But a lot of time and effort went into this one. It's been so long I can't remember many details about the others...was this the longest one yet?

Kazerad
Aug 1, 2011

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Zoe posted:

That was a huge rear end walk around, I'm just sorry it kept the tiny main update from going up for so long.

But a lot of time and effort went into this one. It's been so long I can't remember many details about the others...was this the longest one yet?
Katia:Excelsior (the first Kvatch flash) had more characters and rooms, while this one was a fairly limited environment over the course of several days. In Excelsior, you could also rush straight to the end, whereas this one is much more linear. At the same time, the more hidden content in this one (e.g. alternate dream endings) takes a lot more time to find than the hidden content in Excelsior. Which one is longer could really go either way.

The more important metric is: this one has more spiders. Up until now, I think only one spider has appeared in the entire comic.

McFrugal posted:

Also there's a khajiit hiding in the women's bathroom during the first(and maybe second) day. Gee, I wonder who that could be.

That's actually a bug! Every object you examine has an invisible NPC on it who narrates your thoughts to you. On that one, I accidentally left the NPC with a graphic. Since it was mostly hidden behind the curtain, I didn't notice until your post.

I was at a Halloween party when I read your post, though, and the entire time I was worried other people would notice that half-concealed Khajiit ear and start madly theorizing about a second Khajiit hiding on the ship. Luckily, you seem to be the only person on the entire internet who saw it. Regardless, a fixed version should work its way through the caching soon.

But, yeah, I know I say it all the time and across many sites, but sorry about the delay. Hopefully, this at least partially explains why I ran so far over my initial time estimate. I still want to post those riveting statistics on the relation between depravedness and ad-click-willingness, though I'm probably going to run more ads this month. I might as well get more data first.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Why did the sidestories delay this particular update so much? It doesn't seem like they were bound to any update in particular and could've just waited until they were ready.

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Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I am absolutely sold on those t-shirts. I don't often care for merch that much, but that Katia shirt is just the right kind of stylised that I want it right now this second, and that's a rarity for me. So I guess later in the month I'll be putting down some cash for that one.

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