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Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

Ulysses S. Grant posted:

If you're okay with signing a 2-year contract, go with $79.99/mo instead - it's 1000 minutes, unlimited text and 2 gigs of data for each line.

That's almost the price you'd pay with ATT/Verizon for a single phone. I'm moving to that tonight. Hope they let me keep my @home voip service, if not, I'm going to ooma.

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Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

We're giving you a hint.


Ulysses S. Grant posted:

2 gigs of data for each line.

Yeah, no thanks.

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

Maker Of Shoes posted:

Yeah, no thanks.

I jumped on it. I'd have to work really hard to hit 2GB.

I told the csr (American) that I was opposed to the merger after changing my plan. She said that she didn't really want it to happen either, but it would be better for the customers, she was under the impression that ATT wanted to use tmobile as a model for better customer service, rather than the other way around. I politely told her I disagreed, and we left it there.

Burden
Jul 25, 2006


The value plans are actually a good deal even if you have to buy the phone at full price. You usually pay less up front and your bill is less per month even with the phone being billed to you.

Ulysses S. Grant
Aug 23, 2007

I can't spare this man - he fights.


Burden posted:

The value plans are actually a good deal even if you have to buy the phone at full price. You usually pay less up front and your bill is less per month even with the phone being billed to you.

Yeah, but customers only seem to understand FREE PHONE as in WHY YOU NOT GIVE ME FREE PHONE. I'M NOT PAYING $3 PER MONTH FOR MY FLIP PHONE!

"You realize, though, to get that phone for free you have to spend $20 more per month..?"

"GIVE ME FREE PHONE"

Civil posted:

I jumped on it. I'd have to work really hard to hit 2GB.

I told the csr (American) that I was opposed to the merger after changing my plan. She said that she didn't really want it to happen either, but it would be better for the customers, she was under the impression that ATT wanted to use tmobile as a model for better customer service, rather than the other way around. I politely told her I disagreed, and we left it there.

Yep, that's essentially the party line we're supposed to be giving. The real answer is "AT&T wants our spectrum licenses and 33 million customers, gently caress the rest."

Maker Of Shoes posted:

Yeah, no thanks.

Well, how much data do you actually use per month?

Ulysses S. Grant fucked around with this message at Aug 6, 2011 around 04:56

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

We're giving you a hint.


They are a good deal but I regularly hit 3.5 gigs a month.

Edit: I don't own a computer so that kind of explains it.

Ulysses S. Grant
Aug 23, 2007

I can't spare this man - he fights.


Maker Of Shoes posted:

They are a good deal but I regularly hit 3.5 gigs a month.

Edit: I don't own a computer so that kind of explains it.

For an individual, you can get 500 minutes/unlimited texting/5 gigs for $64.99/mo if you go with the Value plan.

Pendragon
Jun 18, 2003

HE'S WATCHING YOU

Civil posted:

That's almost the price you'd pay with ATT/Verizon for a single phone. I'm moving to that tonight. Hope they let me keep my @home voip service, if not, I'm going to ooma.

Out of curiousity, did you manage to keep your @home service?

I started looking into this today. It sounds like these really cheap plans are mostly a way to get customers to stick around through the merger. Once past the merger, the customers will probably stick with AT&T. I'm torn between cheap prices and wanting to give AT&T the finger.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.


Civil posted:

I jumped on it. I'd have to work really hard to hit 2GB.

I told the csr (American) that I was opposed to the merger after changing my plan. She said that she didn't really want it to happen either, but it would be better for the customers, she was under the impression that ATT wanted to use tmobile as a model for better customer service, rather than the other way around. I politely told her I disagreed, and we left it there.

Phone reps have their calls recorded, so I don't think you'll ever get their personal opinions. Most cell phone reps are technically handicapped to say mandated hsit too.

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

Pendragon posted:

Out of curiousity, did you manage to keep your @home service?

I started looking into this today. It sounds like these really cheap plans are mostly a way to get customers to stick around through the merger. Once past the merger, the customers will probably stick with AT&T. I'm torn between cheap prices and wanting to give AT&T the finger.

I did keep it. The good thing about the value plans is that I qualify for a corporate discount again, which I didn't when I was on EM+. The @home router is still $5/mo. My total bill for both lines along with the @home is just over $90/mo, but I'll get a 15% discount on that, which I'm really happy with.

I dread the takeover by ATT, but at least I'll have a very good rate for the next 2 years. Really, the absurd rates and lack of non-subsidized plans are my primary reasons for hating ATT - poor service and loving up their phones are other reasons - but I've got my rooted devices, so I can live with this for a while.

goku chewbacca
Dec 14, 2002


Civil posted:

I did keep it. The good thing about the value plans is that I qualify for a corporate discount again, which I didn't when I was on EM+. The @home router is still $5/mo. My total bill for both lines along with the @home is just over $90/mo, but I'll get a 15% discount on that, which I'm really happy with.
Can you confirm this is officially allowed and not just a fluke you got away with? My partner qualifies for a 15% discount, but it wasn't enough to get us to switch from Sprint when I was looking at Even More plans. Might have to reconsider with the new Value plans.

Cardboard Box A
Jul 18, 2004
VTech Asian Pride

Ok it looks like I missed the Best Buy "Free Nexus S" deal, but am I missing something or is there never any reason to buy a T-Mobile phone at full price? I asked 611 and the ETF was $200 max, and signing up for a new plan is basically $40 line + $20 data + $35 activation, right? So for $295 + Subsidized price I could sign up for a month, cancel, and get a brand new phone that way?

Ulysses S. Grant
Aug 23, 2007

I can't spare this man - he fights.


goku chewbacca posted:

Can you confirm this is officially allowed and not just a fluke you got away with? My partner qualifies for a 15% discount, but it wasn't enough to get us to switch from Sprint when I was looking at Even More plans. Might have to reconsider with the new Value plans.

Yes, and I should add that to the OP. DISCOUNTS CAN STACK WITH VALUE PLANS.

kbar
Aug 9, 2002



Just got a text message saying that one of my lines was past its 200MB cap and would be billed at $0.10/MB overage. I was under the impression that data was unlimited and would just be capped down to EDGE speeds after the cap was hit. Is this not the case for EM/EM+ plans?

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

kalibar posted:

Just got a text message saying that one of my lines was past its 200MB cap and would be billed at $0.10/MB overage. I was under the impression that data was unlimited and would just be capped down to EDGE speeds after the cap was hit. Is this not the case for EM/EM+ plans?

Last I checked, the 200MB plans do not advertise themselves as unlimited, unlike the 2GB and up plans. Which plan specifically do you have?

Burden
Jul 25, 2006


kalibar posted:

Just got a text message saying that one of my lines was past its 200MB cap and would be billed at $0.10/MB overage. I was under the impression that data was unlimited and would just be capped down to EDGE speeds after the cap was hit. Is this not the case for EM/EM+ plans?

On the older plans the 200 MB plan is not unlimited.

gordan freidberg
Feb 5, 2011


Is anyone here familiar with any way military personnel can get out of a contract? I ask because I just bought a Sensation and plan to go with it and then I moved to Missouri and my service went from 4g to 2g and it's absolute poo poo here. I get no signal like 2 miles outside of post and very spotty signal on post even though there's a freaking tower right in the middle of it. I can only hope that t Mobile customers get access to att towers soon.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

We're giving you a hint.


gordan freidberg posted:

Is anyone here familiar with any way military personnel can get out of a contract? I ask because I just bought a Sensation and plan to go with it and then I moved to Missouri and my service went from 4g to 2g and it's absolute poo poo here. I get no signal like 2 miles outside of post and very spotty signal on post even though there's a freaking tower right in the middle of it. I can only hope that t Mobile customers get access to att towers soon.

That wont be for another year at least, probably more. Call up 611 and they'll let you out if you complain hard enough and prove residency in such a lovely signal area.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003

He's AWESOME!


gordan freidberg posted:

Is anyone here familiar with any way military personnel can get out of a contract? I ask because I just bought a Sensation and plan to go with it and then I moved to Missouri and my service went from 4g to 2g and it's absolute poo poo here. I get no signal like 2 miles outside of post and very spotty signal on post even though there's a freaking tower right in the middle of it. I can only hope that t Mobile customers get access to att towers soon.
I don't think the Sensation can connect to AT&T's 3G band, anyway, so it would only help with the 2G part.

gordan freidberg
Feb 5, 2011


Endless Mike posted:

I don't think the Sensation can connect to AT&T's 3G band, anyway, so it would only help with the 2G part.

Cool. I might sell this brand new Sensation, pay $200 to get out of the contract, and just go back to the dark side (Verizon).

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.


gordan freidberg posted:

Cool. I might sell this brand new Sensation, pay $200 to get out of the contract, and just go back to the dark side (Verizon).

If your home signal is lovely enough you don't have to pay. And definitely don't pay unless you have to.

Burden
Jul 25, 2006


Duckman2008 posted:

If your home signal is lovely enough you don't have to pay. And definitely don't pay unless you have to.

They changed that policy a few months ago. If your signal is lovely, to bad you still have to pay the etf.

Ulysses S. Grant
Aug 23, 2007

I can't spare this man - he fights.


Burden posted:

They changed that policy a few months ago. If your signal is lovely, to bad you still have to pay the etf.

I think we still do active military ETF waivers, though. The policy on ETF waivers for lovely signal and moving out of the country has been ended, although I'm not sure how T-Mobile intends on collecting on someone who leaves the U.S. permanently.

Yuriki
Mar 27, 2004

Who the hell do you think I am?

I'm on a 500 minute even more plus plan and had no clue about the new value lines. If I switch to one, would I have to sign a new contract? My old flexpay conversion contract is up in August and I'm thinking of ditching my Galaxy S on ebay/craiglist and switching to AT&T or Verizon since the coverage here is crap, but if I can pay $49.99 a month for the same thing and get the discount applied (what $42?) then that's a sweet deal.

I don't want to be locked in for two more years of this crap though, especially without some kind of phone subsidy or even a chance for one.

Pendragon
Jun 18, 2003

HE'S WATCHING YOU

Xerin posted:

I'm on a 500 minute even more plus plan and had no clue about the new value lines. If I switch to one, would I have to sign a new contract? My old flexpay conversion contract is up in August and I'm thinking of ditching my Galaxy S on ebay/craiglist and switching to AT&T or Verizon since the coverage here is crap, but if I can pay $49.99 a month for the same thing and get the discount applied (what $42?) then that's a sweet deal.

I don't want to be locked in for two more years of this crap though, especially without some kind of phone subsidy or even a chance for one.

You have to sign a two-year contract.

gordan freidberg
Feb 5, 2011


Ulysses S. Grant posted:

I think we still do active military ETF waivers, though. The policy on ETF waivers for lovely signal and moving out of the country has been ended, although I'm not sure how T-Mobile intends on collecting on someone who leaves the U.S. permanently.

I believe that under the servicemember's civil relief act a soldier with PCS orders to a different duty station can get out of a contract. I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes. I really like T Mobile so it sucks that I have to drop them.

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?


Friend is willing to sell me a HTC G2 in great condition for $120.

1. Is that a good or bad deal?
2. I never talk on the phone, but I want data.

I was looking at the Value 500 minutes and Data Plus (2gb) plan for $50/mo. I'm not really sure what else I can ask other than if anyone has any general information I should be aware of, or better ideas for me to utilize this smartphone. Or how I can pay less, because paying less is always good.

fake edit: Does unlocking this thing really require paying some web site to generate the unlock code, or is there something else I'm missing that's buried by google's sponsored links?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

Don't you know there ain't no devil, its just God when he's drunk.


zxqv8 posted:

Friend is willing to sell me a HTC G2 in great condition for $120.

1. Is that a good or bad deal?
2. I never talk on the phone, but I want data.

I was looking at the Value 500 minutes and Data Plus (2gb) plan for $50/mo. I'm not really sure what else I can ask other than if anyone has any general information I should be aware of, or better ideas for me to utilize this smartphone. Or how I can pay less, because paying less is always good.

fake edit: Does unlocking this thing really require paying some web site to generate the unlock code, or is there something else I'm missing that's buried by google's sponsored links?

I think that's a good deal, and you don't need to unlock it to put it on TMobile. Once you are on TMobile after a few months they will give you the unlock code for free.

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?


I did not know this. I merely inquired of the unlock code in case I decide on a different service. People are pointing me all over and this http://www.mysimplemobile.com thing might not be terrible, especially since it's no contract. Just down to coverage really.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

We're giving you a hint.


Ulysses S. Grant posted:

The policy on ETF waivers for lovely signal and moving out of the country has been ended, although I'm not sure how T-Mobile intends on collecting on someone who leaves the U.S. permanently.

Hahahahahah what. It's like they have no shame whatsoever anymore.

PLANES CURE TOWERS
Jun 1, 2006

NO HUDDLES

NO RINGS
BUT WE GOT SWAG


zxqv8 posted:

Friend is willing to sell me a HTC G2 in great condition for $120.

1. Is that a good or bad deal?
2. I never talk on the phone, but I want data.

I was looking at the Value 500 minutes and Data Plus (2gb) plan for $50/mo. I'm not really sure what else I can ask other than if anyone has any general information I should be aware of, or better ideas for me to utilize this smartphone. Or how I can pay less, because paying less is always good.

fake edit: Does unlocking this thing really require paying some web site to generate the unlock code, or is there something else I'm missing that's buried by google's sponsored links?

120 for a G2 is a good deal. Get it, it's an awesome phone.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008


zxqv8 posted:

Friend is willing to sell me a HTC G2 in great condition for $120.

I've had a G2 for a year now and I like it, it's a nice phone. It's also been comprehensively cracked; I believe the rooting process you go through to install a new ROM on it also unlocks the phone for you for free, though you'd want to check on that.

Edit: I take it you mean the T-Mobile G2, which is an HTC Desire Z variant. Just to be sure.

Ulysses S. Grant
Aug 23, 2007

I can't spare this man - he fights.


feedmegin posted:

I've had a G2 for a year now and I like it, it's a nice phone. It's also been comprehensively cracked; I believe the rooting process you go through to install a new ROM on it also unlocks the phone for you for free, though you'd want to check on that.

Edit: I take it you mean the T-Mobile G2, which is an HTC Desire Z variant. Just to be sure.

Yes! When you root it using the gfree tool, it automatically SIM unlocks the G2 and Desire Z. There's no need to call T-Mobile to get the SIM unlock code, or pay anyone for it.

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?


I would much appreciate some basic direction in this manner. If only a link to get me started as I must be too retarded to do so on my own.

Walrusmaster
Sep 21, 2009


So, stupid question I'm sure, but with the current $50/month/2 phones deal, it stacks with corporate discounts, meaning if I have access to a 15% discount, I can get 3 lines (2@$50, add 1@$15) for $99.75/month plus the cost of the phones? How much would any fees and/or taxes add to that?

Ulysses S. Grant
Aug 23, 2007

I can't spare this man - he fights.


Quick bit of news before I get home and can answer questions: the throttled 200mb data feature is going to be grandfathered, and in the future it will be 200mb with 10¢ per MB overage charges, with a cap of $30.

Masturbatory Manatee
Oct 18, 2005
CHUCK NORRIS
CHUCK NORRIS
CHUCK NORRIS
HURRRRRR


We have a family plan with 2 phones out of contract and the third phone still under contract for a while. Is there a way to switch to any of the new value plans in this situation?

Burden
Jul 25, 2006


Masturbatory Manatee posted:

We have a family plan with 2 phones out of contract and the third phone still under contract for a while. Is there a way to switch to any of the new value plans in this situation?

You can the line under contract will have to pay a migration fee most likely.

Crunkjuice
Apr 4, 2007

That could've gotten in my eye!
*launches teargas at unarmed protestors*

I THINK OAKLAND PD'S USE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE WAS JUSTIFIED!


So whats the deal with the gingerbread update for the MT4G? I got an update last week that erased everyone on my phone but didn't give my 2.3.4, but a buddy of mine with one has gingerbread already. How long is the updating supposed to last/should i go to the store about it?

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ilysespieces
Oct 4, 2009

When life becomes too painful, sometimes it's better to just become a drunk.


Crunkjuice posted:

So whats the deal with the gingerbread update for the MT4G? I got an update last week that erased everyone on my phone but didn't give my 2.3.4, but a buddy of mine with one has gingerbread already. How long is the updating supposed to last/should i go to the store about it?

I didn't get the OTA update but I went into the store yesterday to get the update. It shouldn't take longer than any number of minutes, no way it should take a week.
I was pissed that it erased everything but the web market was fantastic for getting all my apps back.

What does your phone say it's running?

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