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ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004
A woman has 100% control of the pregnancy status of her body, except in cases of rape


To the best of my knowledge, no. Could find a nice rep to add another line, swap your number to it, then do the transfer from there. The request to port the number is always interpreted as a request to close the line AFAIK.

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Tim Whatley
Mar 28, 2010

FEED ME


I actually just talked to a T Mobile rep and she said it was possible. Basically the line will close and we'll get the charge, but I just have to call and say I want to just put a new number on it and I'll be fine. The charge will drop. Not paying any more, or less.

Meldonox
Jan 13, 2006

Hey, are you listening to a word I'm saying?


Now that it's been out for a while, how are Goons liking that $30 smartphone plan? Any serious drawbacks to it? I've been wanting a smartphone for a while now, but I haven't been the least bit interested in paying so much for so little data versus a giant useless minute pool.

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

I love it. The only thing is, refill your account with some extra cash because its hard not to go over on minutes even with being a texting fiend. I came into the plan fully ok with paying up to $40-50 per month depending on my usage. Micro-managing my minute allowance has me looking longingly at a regular postpaid plan though.

Also, if I didn't have Groove IP this plan wouldn't work for me at all. Fair warning though, sometimes GrooveIP has horrible lag even over wifi whereas Google Voice and Video chat on a computer doesn't.

McPimpenheimer
Jul 12, 2006

Pimpin with pride since '85.

Well, the "touch" part of "touchscreen" on my HD2 has finally given up the ghost, so it looks like I'm going to be doing some emergency phone shopping. I'm in that wonderful period between my warranty ending and being eligible for an upgrade. Hooray for not buying insurance.

How do people feel about the Samsung Exhibit II 4G? It's readily available since it's supposed to be a pre-paid phone (I could walk into a Wal-Mart or have it overnighted via Amazon Prime for ~$200) and unless I'm mistaken I should be able to swap my sim card and be back in business. It also seems like I wouldn't be making too many concessions: Same/similar processor, slightly smaller screen, same resolution, 3mp camera versus my 5mp. Also, it runs android natively, unlike my janky XDA solutions on the HD2. Plus, it should actually work.

I know that I can likely snag a better deal on eBay or craigslist if I keep my eyes open, or attempt a repair if I weren't worried about botching it, but I'm hoping to get this problem solved as soon as possible.

Unless there's a much better option, I'll probably buy this phone, and see if I can get a few bucks out of the HD2 on eBay.

Burden
Jul 25, 2006


McPimpenheimer posted:

Well, the "touch" part of "touchscreen" on my HD2 has finally given up the ghost, so it looks like I'm going to be doing some emergency phone shopping. I'm in that wonderful period between my warranty ending and being eligible for an upgrade. Hooray for not buying insurance.

How do people feel about the Samsung Exhibit II 4G? It's readily available since it's supposed to be a pre-paid phone (I could walk into a Wal-Mart or have it overnighted via Amazon Prime for ~$200) and unless I'm mistaken I should be able to swap my sim card and be back in business. It also seems like I wouldn't be making too many concessions: Same/similar processor, slightly smaller screen, same resolution, 3mp camera versus my 5mp. Also, it runs android natively, unlike my janky XDA solutions on the HD2. Plus, it should actually work.

I know that I can likely snag a better deal on eBay or craigslist if I keep my eyes open, or attempt a repair if I weren't worried about botching it, but I'm hoping to get this problem solved as soon as possible.

Unless there's a much better option, I'll probably buy this phone, and see if I can get a few bucks out of the HD2 on eBay.

Bang for your dollar the Exhibit 2 is a drat good phone. Kinda weak camera, but otherwise a good phone. My reps sell them all day long.

Mitsune
Jun 24, 2005


I tried it out for a day. It's a solid phone with high functionality but has a terrible camera. The 4G signal is strong, works well with Bluetooth. People say there was some fuzz when I spoke to them. Overall, it's a good phone off-contract ($200+tax) at Walmart. Main reason I returned it is that I rather put that $200 towards the newest phone available on contract (e.g. Nexus Prime).

I also learned this lesson because I've been using a LG Optimus T for the past year.

Cardboard Box A
Jul 18, 2004
VTech Asian Pride

It looks like T-Mobile stores increased the price of the Exhibit 2 from $250 to $350 in anticipation of their Saturday sale earlier today, just so the on-contract discount would look better. In addition they threatened that if I purchased it non-contract from Wal-Mart they wouldn't allow me to get a value plan. I assume that threat was meaningless.

I've also never seen it at a Wal-Mart ever, but that doesn't matter because McPimpenheimer points out you can get it from Amazon with free shipping.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

FEED ME YOUR
FOXCONN BABIES!


I just got tagged with a $50 "Usage Charge" on my G2 line. Looking over the bill it looks like it's for "WEB AND DATA USAGE CHARGES". I browsed through the T-Mobile forums and it looks like lots of people got tagged this month with the charge but it seems to be everyone with dumb phones or smartphones that don't have data plans and getting moved onto pay-as-you-go data. My line has 5gb of data and I still got the $50 data charge.

Anyone else seen or heard this? Gonna give T-mobile a call tomorrow but just wonding if someone can shed some light on this first.

candy for breakfast
Jul 1, 2003

blasting women into space


A little while back they started putting the 1.99/mb pay per use web automatically on any line using a smartphone. Unsurprisingly this sometimes is put on lines with existing data plans. Just call them, explain what happened and they should credit you.

Cardboard Box A
Jul 18, 2004
VTech Asian Pride

Oh and the rep also mentioned that Wifi Calling would always use your minutes now, no matter the plan. This is an unfortunate change now as I was looking forward to it when switching to a value plan.

Burden
Jul 25, 2006


Cardboard Box A posted:

Oh and the rep also mentioned that Wifi Calling would always use your minutes now, no matter the plan. This is an unfortunate change now as I was looking forward to it when switching to a value plan.

That's false. You just need to add a free feature that allows you to make free calls. Once you move to the value plan it is an available feature.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

FEED ME YOUR
FOXCONN BABIES!


candy for breakfast posted:

A little while back they started putting the 1.99/mb pay per use web automatically on any line using a smartphone. Unsurprisingly this sometimes is put on lines with existing data plans. Just call them, explain what happened and they should credit you.

Seems like that's exactly what happened. My line got hit last month and this month there was another pending $50 charge on my wife's line which also has the 5gb data plan. I called the rep and she was very helpful, reversed the pending charge and credited my account for the $50 overage last month. She also blocked the pay-as-you-go ability from all 4 of our lines.

T-mo support helpful again as always.

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

McPimpenheimer posted:

How do people feel about the Samsung Exhibit II 4G? It's readily available since it's supposed to be a pre-paid phone (I could walk into a Wal-Mart or have it overnighted via Amazon Prime for ~$200)

You could probably get a real, well-supported Android phone for $200, like a Defy, MT4G or G2. Sensation is a little more.

McPimpenheimer
Jul 12, 2006

Pimpin with pride since '85.

Mark Larson posted:

You could probably get a real, well-supported Android phone for $200, like a Defy, MT4G or G2. Sensation is a little more.

I'm gun-shy about HTC products at this point. Digitizer issues like mine are practically an inevitability on the HD2, and apparently they're not uncommon on their other phones (G2, etc.) either. Have a friend with a Droid Eris, and she's had completely different frustrating hardware issues.

That being said, I'll look for the Defy (and the Galaxy S 4G, from another separate recommendation) on ebay. I won't be getting new for your quoted price, but maybe I can find something not at its end-of-life without getting scammed.

Edit:

Cardboard Box A posted:

I've also never seen it at a Wal-Mart ever, but that doesn't matter because McPimpenheimer points out you can get it from Amazon with free shipping.
Found four at the Wal-Mart closest to my apartment Too bad I was too indecisive to actually pick one up.

McPimpenheimer fucked around with this message at Nov 21, 2011 around 06:07

Walrusmaster
Sep 21, 2009


Mark Larson posted:

You could probably get a real, well-supported Android phone for $200, like a Defy, MT4G or G2. Sensation is a little more.

I have a Defy, and the phone is awesome as it is, but rooted and with cyanogenmod 7 it flies, no issues whatsoever. I'd really recommend it. they've gotten a lot cheaper recently too, I've seen several for less than $100 locally.

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009

Please remind me to get a job so I can stop spending all day posting in D&D about how I'm an unemployable failure


McPimpenheimer posted:

How do people feel about the Samsung Exhibit II 4G? It's readily available since it's supposed to be a pre-paid phone (I could walk into a Wal-Mart or have it overnighted via Amazon Prime for ~$200) and unless I'm mistaken I should be able to swap my sim card and be back in business. It also seems like I wouldn't be making too many concessions: Same/similar processor, slightly smaller screen, same resolution, 3mp camera versus my 5mp. Also, it runs android natively, unlike my janky XDA solutions on the HD2. Plus, it should actually work.

I bought one recently and like it a lot. It's easily rootable, and once it is rooted, throws off a nice quick WiFi hotspot. Between Launcher Pro and rooting, I see little need for custom ROMs, but of course YMMV.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004
A woman has 100% control of the pregnancy status of her body, except in cases of rape


Best phone on Tmo with NFC and cyanogen support?

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

ilkhan posted:

Best phone on Tmo with NFC and cyanogen support?

Nexus S? Is there even any other phone with NFC? I don't think the TMO SGS2 has NFC.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004
A woman has 100% control of the pregnancy status of her body, except in cases of rape


I think its just the T989 (TMo SGS2) or the Amaze. So which is better?

datajosh
May 3, 2002



ilkhan posted:

I think its just the T989 (TMo SGS2) or the Amaze. So which is better?
Well, neither has Cyanogen support right now. I believe the SGS2 has the bigger dev community right now but it also uses a completely different SoC than the other SGS2 models and is likely to end up with halfass support from Samsung. The difference is noticeable too if you've spent some time with another SGS2 model.

I'd say it'll come down to personal preference between the two. Performance should be similar and the Amaze has a 4.3" qHD Super LCD screen while the SGS2 has a 4.52" WVGA Super AMOLED+ screen.

You could also consider getting a Value plan and spending more to import a Galaxy Nexus when it comes out in Canada next month.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004
A woman has 100% control of the pregnancy status of her body, except in cases of rape


The $30 plan is what I'm planning on. My EVO is getting a little long in the tooth and with insurance its running $90-$92/month. $30 sounds drat good to me when I'm halfway through the month having used 16 minutes / 23 texts / ≈50MB. A GSM Nexus has been the plan for a while, but...delays and frustrations.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003


Walrusmaster posted:

I have a Defy, and the phone is awesome as it is, but rooted and with cyanogenmod 7 it flies, no issues whatsoever. I'd really recommend it. they've gotten a lot cheaper recently too, I've seen several for less than $100 locally.

I got mine off ebay for $205 but I agree with every other point. You also have the added benefit of an FM radio with CM7. I can go from off to usable in about 20 seconds which is about 80 seconds faster then every other smartphone I've owned.

You also get the added benefit of having a waterproof/rugged phone. Since I accidentally proved that the phone was waterproof I've been more careless and ended up soaking it about 4 times since then.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003


Meldonox posted:

Now that it's been out for a while, how are Goons liking that $30 smartphone plan? Any serious drawbacks to it? I've been wanting a smartphone for a while now, but I haven't been the least bit interested in paying so much for so little data versus a giant useless minute pool.

The $30 5gb plan is absolutely amazing if you consistently use less than 200 minutes and no texts. Otherwise it's value depends on your usage. You also lose the ability to have google voice handle your voicemail.

Cardboard Box A
Jul 18, 2004
VTech Asian Pride

Burden posted:

That's false. You just need to add a free feature that allows you to make free calls. Once you move to the value plan it is an available feature.
Thanks for the info. Looks like I can still count on WiFi Calling then. The T-Mobile store representatives are all basically the opposite of helpful lately. Is the uncertainty regarding the acquisition still looming over everyone's heads?





Mark Larson posted:

You could probably get a real, well-supported Android phone for $200, like a Defy, MT4G or G2. Sensation is a little more.
Wait what exactly is well-supported about those phones? Do any of them have Gingerbread 2.3.5 like the Exhibit II? If you mean in terms of rooting them and installing Cyanogenmod, the Exhibit is rootable so it's not like support won't be coming, the phone is just really new. And if you root and install Cynaogen you lose the ability to use T-Mobile WiFi Calling so what's the point?

And aren't you comparing used/on-contract prices with $200 new off-contract?





Stick100 posted:

I got mine off ebay for $205 but I agree with every other point. You also have the added benefit of an FM radio with CM7. I can go from off to usable in about 20 seconds which is about 80 seconds faster then every other smartphone I've owned.

You also get the added benefit of having a waterproof/rugged phone. Since I accidentally proved that the phone was waterproof I've been more careless and ended up soaking it about 4 times since then.
But the Motorola Defy has horrible touchscreen issues.





Radbot posted:

I bought one recently and like it a lot. It's easily rootable, and once it is rooted, throws off a nice quick WiFi hotspot. Between Launcher Pro and rooting, I see little need for custom ROMs, but of course YMMV.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the Exhibit II. Why do you have to root it to use the WiFi hotspot? I thought that was built-in to Gingerbread? And is there any reason to switch to Launcher Pro if you like the Samsung launcher with its App Drawer divided into pages instead?





Stick100 posted:

The $30 5gb plan is absolutely amazing if you consistently use less than 200 minutes and no texts. Otherwise it's value depends on your usage. You also lose the ability to have google voice handle your voicemail.
Wait why do you lose the ability to have google voice handle your voicemail?

Cardboard Box A fucked around with this message at Nov 22, 2011 around 03:14

goku chewbacca
Dec 14, 2002


Stick100 posted:

The $30 5gb plan is absolutely amazing if you consistently use less than 200 minutes and no texts. Otherwise it's value depends on your usage. You also lose the ability to have google voice handle your voicemail.
Does T-Mobile not have a missed call forwarding feature, or is it not supported on their prepay plans?

If you use the full Google Voice, not just the GVoice lite voicemail feature, voicemails should still work. They should stop ringing the forwarding phones after a a few rings and allow the caller to leave a voicemail.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003


Cardboard Box A posted:


But the Motorola Defy has horrible touchscreen issues.

Wait why do you lose the ability to have google voice handle your voicemail?

I personally have had less problems with the Defy touch screen than the 3gs Nexus 1 and Nexus S. The Nexus S was far too sensitive the 3gs would ignore touches and the N1 would also drop touches.

I did have a time period of about 5 hours where the touch screen would not respond corrected but it was after I had left the phone in a 1/4 in. of water for 14 hours. After 5 hours it recovered completely. In contrast my otterbox broke and I my 3gs failed in less than a month.

As to the google voice prepaid someone else can better answer that as I haven't had a voicemail since I switched.

Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

My Defy didn't have any touchscreen issues FWIW. This is the first I'm hearing about it, actually.

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009

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Re: GV on Prepaid T-Mobile:

Call forwarding is not enabled on prepaid T-mobile accounts, so as goku mentioned, you can't do "GV Lite" and you must turn on the caller announcement function "press 1 to answer, 2 to send to voicemail..." unfortunately.

Cardboard Box A
Jul 18, 2004
VTech Asian Pride

Mark Larson posted:

My Defy didn't have any touchscreen issues FWIW. This is the first I'm hearing about it, actually.

Stick100 posted:

I personally have had less problems with the Defy touch screen than the 3gs Nexus 1 and Nexus S. The Nexus S was far too sensitive the 3gs would ignore touches and the N1 would also drop touches.
That's nice and all but the Defy touchscreen issues are widespread enough that you can find them across tons of forums spanning the internet for years. It was one of the first things I found when searching for information on the Defy months ago.





Radbot posted:

Re: GV on Prepaid T-Mobile:

Call forwarding is not enabled on prepaid T-mobile accounts, so as goku mentioned, you can't do "GV Lite" and you must turn on the caller announcement function "press 1 to answer, 2 to send to voicemail..." unfortunately.
Ah that explains it, no call forwarding. Makes sense. But what if you use Google Voice over data with Groove IP? Won't it work just like your regular phone number then?

saviro
Apr 28, 2005
the revenge of the peruvian

My G2's screen has died. Does anybody know of a reliable online repair service? I'm sure all I gotta do is change the LCD. I would replace it with HTC's warranty, but I bought the phone of off SA-Mart and I don't think I can get the proof of purchase from the seller.

Am I hosed? I really can't afford a new phone right now and all the other choices out there are poo poo.

MC Hawking
Apr 27, 2004

The streets sketched out in the full moon light,
MIT punks dying left and right.
There's nowhere to run don't even try,
cause all my shootings be drivebys.


savro posted:

My G2's Screen busted waaaah


Fix. It. Yourself.



Cardboard Box A posted:

Wait what exactly is well-supported about those phones? Do any of them have Gingerbread 2.3.5 like the Exhibit II? If you mean in terms of rooting them and installing Cyanogenmod, the Exhibit is rootable so it's not like support won't be coming, the phone is just really new. And if you root and install Cynaogen you lose the ability to use T-Mobile WiFi Calling so what's the point?

This is incorrect, at least on the G2. Wifi Calling still works in the latest Cm7.1 stable, I used it to make a call last week. Though I cannot speak for the Defy or the MT4g, the G2 will continue to have great support for several reasons.

First and foremost: it is pretty much the last high quality gsm hardware keyboard phone. It has a whole year worth of solid development scene behind it and will continue to have it for the foreseeable future. The G2 might have been EOLed in the States, but the Desire Z is still being sold overseas.

Secondly: Cyanogen himself still uses a G2 as a daily driver. You can bet your rear end that the G2 will get CM9, let alone the continued development of Sense 3 and 3.5 roms by other competent development teams such as RMK40's Virtuous Team. MIUI is still actively supported with updates on an almost daily basis. There is already a booting alpha port of the ICS SDK and a very active effort to get the GNXS source dump ported.

Third: Yes, the G2 was updated recently OTA to 2.3.4 Gingerbread. The Mt4g has been updated to 2.3.? gingerbread as of July. From what I understand all updates after that were app specific that just got rolled into the base source code/gapps package.


Edit: In other fun news, the FCC Chairman has done something unprecedented for an individual representing an agency as thoroughly in the pockets of corporate interests as the FCC and moved to have a full hearing on it. More details here.

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zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?


I have to ask, is there still a problem for people with existing T-Mobile service of any kind to get over to the $30 option? I probably use less than 100 minutes in three months, so this would be cherry for me.

I have the $60 monthly 4g going now, and it's complete overkill considering I almost never talk on the drat phone.

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001



From what I hear it depends on the agent you get, with you having roughly a 1/10 chance of one who can figure out how to switch the plans for you without screwing anything up.

Part of the problem is there are more than one $30/month plans, only one of which has the 5GB of data.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004
A woman has 100% control of the pregnancy status of her body, except in cases of rape


T-Mo SGSII on its way. I can live without cyano and custom ROMs. I've stuck with a rooted sprint ROM for this long, I can't imagine it being too much worse than that.
If it turns out to be unbearable, well, no contract and the phone can be resold.

spanko
Apr 7, 2004
winnar

It looks like the ATT merger isn't going to happen. I wonder what the likelihood of a Sprint/Tmobile merger is?

goku chewbacca
Dec 14, 2002


Is the $4 billion consolation enough to convince Deutsche Telecom to stay in the American market? I'd really like a national GSM carrier with T-Mobile's open/unlimited/throttling approach to remain available.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

We're giving you a hint.


goku chewbacca posted:

Is the $4 billion consolation enough to convince Deutsche Telecom to stay in the American market?

3 billion in cash and 1 billion in spectrum. Honestly though, I doubt it. Even if DT wanted to stay in it after that cash injection they would remain the only carrier without an iPhone or LTE. Every single penny of that money would already be spent just trying to catch up. The cynic in me basically sees TMOUS dying a slow death over the course of 5 years and being broken up between Big Red, the Bell leviathan reincarnate and regional carriers.

Edit: To be fair I know Sprint doesn't currently have LTE but it's basically already in the books for them.

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ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004
A woman has 100% control of the pregnancy status of her body, except in cases of rape


I envision TMo going straight to LTE-Advanced. Saves them the conversion costs, and HSPA+ will keep them going for a while. Long term, who knows?

Are we going to see all high-end GSM devices using pentaband radios (like the GNex, frequencies for nearly any carrier worldwide) or no?

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Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

Tmo won't die, they'll just be sold. People have been speculating that Google or Apple want their own wireless network, so maybe that's what will happen down the road.

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