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Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Morpheus posted:

So Devil Survivor 2 has the some drat irritating missions, and some 'awesome' one-hit KOs that will simply lose you a mission outright. The social aspect is pretty cool: spend time with people, warm up to them, and they get bonuses like resistances to certain elements and such.

I'm not that far in right now, but it seems like a pretty solid sequel. It's a little too similar to the first (at least, right now it is), but if you want more of that, then this is good for you so far. Going through the motions where everyone is, as always, all "omg demons we have to fight with them omg omg what ahhhh" is a little tiresome.

Except for these gravity-defying breasts that everyone seems to have.

Also, do not choose the female guide, unless you like, you know, like hearing about all that, like, rilly rilly [sic] annoying valley girl talk.

Is the game fully voiced like Overclocked? I realize it's a DS game, but they can't just go back and not do voices in the sequel.

Edit:\/\/ Well, that sucks. I might just hold out for an Overclocked version.

Dehry fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Jan 30, 2012

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Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

vanov posted:

Ordered Devil Survivor Overclocked along with a lot of other crap I've been meaning to and a printer. I was glad to see DSOC was down to a sane $35 when I needed a new printer!

I drove two hours away to find a Gamestop that had a used copy in stock. Sure I spent $45 in gas and food doing it, but it was only $15 with the coupon I had.

Also, I just cancelled my PS Vita Preorder and got a PSP + P3P. That along with Devil Survivor 2 will keep me busy well until the PSVita Slim/price drop comes out.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
I built my guy up as a physical sweeper with drain hit just because of Beldr and the deadly mistletoe. Now that I am the late game and 1/2 to 2/3 of the enemies drain/reflect phys, I am grinding to bring up my magic.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Well, I finally got through the first 7 days on DS:OC After I got a couple of Phantasma/Flight demons it was super easy to defeat Belberith and Babel. I didn't realize I had to use the power Babel was weak against. I got the overlord ending. I'm now moving on to the 8TH day and am now stuck where Amane fights against the Anti-Overlords god drat are the AI stupid. Twice now I've had a character that is not supposed to get killed die on their first encounter. I'm determined to get a final ending before DS2 comes out. I'll definately be replaying for another ending afterwards.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

jonjonaug posted:

That level is a lot more fun on a kill everyone that gets in your way run because you can just kill the annoying escort NPCs.

I'm starting to get that feeling. I'm only at LV 70 and my other characters are in the high 60s. I've built up a physical character and Pierce/DrainHit has been my savior.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
I'm wondering if P4: The Golden will even come out for the US. If the Vita sales are as low here as in Japan, there may not be much of a market for it. I'd love to see Persona on the 3DS, but that's probably not going to happen anytime soon.


Also, the P4 Arena US localization could put the console story on one system while putting the arcade story on the other.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Dastardly posted:

Hopefully Square Enix picks it up for publishing in Europe like they did with P4. Persona is much more mainstream than Catherine so it shouldn't be as hard to find a publisher. :colbert:
Question. Is the Vita region locked? Then I guess I could just import it then if were going to have to wait a year for it... Being European sucks :saddowns:

The cartridges are not locked, so you can import that way if you can find a copy for cheap.
Using the online store requires you to remove the vita from your authorized devices, factory restore the vita, then login with the credentials from that region's store and another memory card.

Edit: IGN video showing the steps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DWsKE6tStQ

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
I picked mine up at Gamestop. I preorded ages ago with trade in credit. The only problem I had was that the guy at the counter was surprised it was a new DS title and not on 3DS.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
My only complaint so far after the first 30 minutes or so (which I get to replay thanks to an almost copy paste "protect Haru" mission and forgetting to save.) is the re use of many areas from DS 1. I have only been in one new arena so far, but almost everything else is the same.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
"Occasionally, a red Memory Stick will appear"

Sony gonna sue somebody.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

ImpAtom posted:

Those were in Devil Survivor 1 as well. (Or at least Overclocked. I don't recall if they showed up in the original.)

They weren't so obviously shaped like a real Sony Memory Stick. They looked like PDAs in DS:Overlocked



\/\/\/ http://www.geekalerts.com/swivel-widescreen-multimedia-cell-phone/

Dehry fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Feb 29, 2012

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Holy crap. They really improved on using the battle mode sprites for cutscenes. The graphical improvements definitely show. I also enjoy the fact they use actual animation in the opening.

Edit: Also, in case people missed it http://www.geekalerts.com/swivel-widescreen-multimedia-cell-phone/

The phone style exists.

Dehry fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Feb 29, 2012

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Pierce posted:

You're right, I just finished DS Overclocked and DS2 starts off much faster. I was surprised when one of my demons got OHKOed in the 2nd battle. It made me happy.

And poo poo, picked the dildo girl. rilly sucks

Dia, Dia everywhere. I've gotten things down to 5HP and the entire party has healed. This shouldn't happen at level 10.

Dehry fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Feb 29, 2012

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Honestly, I thought Kuma had the best of all of them.

But this definitely came in a close second.

RjY posted:


Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer


Something tells me this wouldn't win.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
I'm on day 7 and at this point I'm changing my strategy to Devil Speed + Evil Wave to reach the main enemy. My Phys MC is having a real fun time with all the RF Phys characters and the number of enemy teams with Dragons/Viles(Seriously, gently caress Ronaldo.) Now I'm on the battle with Yamato and even though I can KO most teams in one hit, he is causing me real problems. My main problem is that I cannot grind anywhere. My MC is level 57 but most of the demons are mid to high 40s in free battle.

Also, I missed fate linking three characters fully. Is that going to prevent me from getting a good ending? I am on the Daichi Path

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Blaine the Train posted:

Wouldn't Jungo be the best for this considering how insane his strength stat is?

Multi-Strike increases in number with agility. It took forever just to get him assassinate. They neglect his Speed/Vitality/Magic to get that stat up.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
There's something weird about telling a fellow gamer you used Titania from Shakespere and Mothman from local legends to fight a star in the big dipper.

I got all the way to the end of Benetnash only to have my magic character run out of MP and leave the bad guy with enough health to kill Trumpeter

I'm so fed up, I think I'll go play another game...Persona 3

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
The whole cast of characters had me going "Hey it's X from Anime" or "It's a younger Akihiko." My Devil Survivor 2 contest entry is basically anime characters that are direct parallels to the DS2 cast. I wonder if they'll get the references.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Jon Irenicus posted:

If I was going to being playing Devil Survivor one soon, without any knowledge of the game or series, what would be some critical lessons to know that might not be spelled out?

Save before every battle. On several occasions I have had the escort mission character killed by confronting an enemy and losing in the same turn they appeared (on occasion some will show up halfway through story battles.)

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
I swapped out phys repel for drain hit in the last battle and got wiped with a single multi strike. It's the first time I've ragequitted a game...I think, ever. I'm currently burned out on Devil Survivor games and just can't force myself to pick it up for the time being.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
I finally got through the Kill Polaris ending, and I must say, it's a lot more depressing than the Nayoa ending from DS:Overclocked. I still prefer it over the True "Reset Button" Ending. Ronaldo and Yamato's endings were horrible both in their own way with Polaris changing mankind to be super helpful or super competitive.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
The way I read Ronaldo's ending was "Everybody started helping one another, oh yeah we're too busy helping one another to do anything else" I suppose it's more the loss of freedom for happiness thing that makes me not like it.
Most of the endings are up on Youtube (some emulated, some shaky cam) now if you don't want to go through all the stories.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Justice posted:

They started making P5 immediately after they finished P3P in Fall 2009, and it was at least initially designed for the PS3. Of course, who knows what's happened to it in the past two years.

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/06/15/the-giant-list-of-third-party-3ds-games/

Persona has been listed as a coming 3DS title for two years now. All we got out of that list so far is Devil Survivor : Overclocked, but if the things about time tables are true, you never know.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Tallgeese posted:

You do not actually have to worry about whether or not the main character in Devil Survivor 2 gets ahead of the others, because they frequently level up invisibly inbetween story battles to be near your level anyway. So, give him all the EXP!

I know this because there is a fight eventually where you can acquire very high infinite EXP against an overlevelled enemy. My MC gained about 12 levels in that battle. Soon after that my human allies were inexplicably only a level or two below, including people I did not use.

Devil Survivor 2 is basically the most convenient SRPG imaginable.

The characters get a certain percentage of your EXP gained every story battle. The abilities Watchful and Vigilant make that percentage higher.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Not to derail the thread with an ADTRW question, but what version of Evangelion should I watch to get the story references?

I've got Persona 4 on the way now. I never thought I would see an actual copy that cheap.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm a few pages in and already see the similarities. Now if I could only find it cheap.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
For those of you who stopped following the P4: The Animation thread after it ended.

Babylonian posted:

There's not enough really to post an Anime Vice news story about, really, since no one will talk to me about it on the record until a decision's made, but in case you want an update on the dub situation: relations between the P4 cast and Sentai are going... less than great. Yukiko's VA called the situation a "whole new level of clusterfuck" on Facebook, saying that "there are last ditch attempts being made to keep the Persona 4 recording here. Otherwise it's going back to Texas to be recast."

A source close to everything told me it's "looking like the cast may not be back due to the poor way this was handled by Sentai." Basically, everyone's walking on eggshells right now - for the most part, it seems like the cast really wants to do the thing, but Sentai has kinda screwed this up at every available opportunity.

Gun to my head, I'd guess that this is all gonna work out in the end, since everyone kinda wants the same thing. But man! What a mess.

Looks like trouble ahead.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

http://wikimon.net/Digimon_World_Re:Digitize

He must have really liked Female Tico.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Technique posted:

e: Also, is there high-res artwork for party members' battle sprites somewhere? They're usually different from any of the official art i've seen.
Doesn't look like it. I found the artbook for DS1, but that only has the battle sprites in the corner of character pages.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Cityinthesea posted:

Also, cool thing about DeSu2, the screen when you load a game changes when you beat an ending; one for each city, and it also adds the big dipper if you go for Saiduq's ending.

That happens in DS:Overclocked as well, although it fills in the side characters that were important for that mission.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Technique posted:

I'm sorry about this everyone, but i just had to do it. I just needed to get it out of my system. :(


I forgot all about that. That needs to be in the OP. Speaking of which, I don't see a Devil Survivor 2 part.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Sweet. I hope we get a USA release for this and Soul Hackers confirmed soon. The 3DS needs more Atlus games.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Rinkles posted:

I was really not expecting to get a 3DS before a Vita. This is a tipping point.

Persona 3DS is still out there as a future title.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Rinkles posted:

^^^ Who the gently caress cares? It was an unnumbered entry in the series.

Does anyone else find the close proximity of the Atlus 3DS game announcements, and presumably their releases, odd?

E3.

Either Atlus USA will be having a field day announcing localizations of those games or we are getting something even bigger there.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
3DS is selling 7 to 1 over Vita. There is a higher install base on that system. The 3D part of the 3DS is a gimmick, but it also has increased graphical power. Atlus hasn't made use of it other than a fancy 3D intro for DS:OC and Nintendo doesn't even require 3DS games to have 3D after their turnaround last year.

At least the 3DS is cheaper than the Vita. Those of us wanting Persona 4 the golden are going to have to spend $300 just to get the game and console.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnwXbSYcywg
P4: The Golden US Trailer.
Thank god my college book trade ins are worth a Used vita and game.
Edit: Interestingly, they are using the Japanese VAs for the ad. Is there still trouble getting everyone onboard?

Dehry fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Jun 5, 2012

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
I think the two games have separate localization teams if I recall correctly. Maybe the next tweet will shed some light on that.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Sluitstripje posted:

I've ordered both Devil Survivor games and lo and behold the second one will be arriving more then a week ahead of the first game. Now my question is will it be a problem if I played them out of order, not only for the plot but game play as well.


Story wise there is no problem. There are no characters/plots that carry over between the games. DS1 is surviving a lockdown, DS2 is SMT:Evangelion.

Gameplay wise there are a few changes. Most notable are:
Demons learn moves differently. DS1 uses Magnetite(gained through fighting) to teach different moves, DS2 only lets you teach moves when fusing, but adds "Add Ons"(items gained while fighting) that let you change the demon being fused.
An S-Link like system called the Fate system is used to change the outcome of the end of the game in DS2.
Unless you got DS:Overclocked they also added a demon compendium for DS2 which lets you summon demons you had already fused.
Also, you have more areas to explore in DS2. DS1 has you locked in Tokyo while in DS2 you get to explore other areas.

Edit: Fixed description of Magnetite system

Dehry fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jul 11, 2012

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Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

King of Solomon posted:

What? Your demons still learn skills at certain levels, it's just not as common as it was in DS1.

The skills learned through leveling are listed when fusing the demons. It's the Magnetite system I'm talking about.

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