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JAssassin
Feb 14, 2009

The stylin' n' profilin', limousine riding, jet flying, kiss-stealing, wheelin' n' dealin' son of a gun!


ToxicFrog posted:

In that case I'd also toss Kerbal Space Program into the ring. The most recent version (14.4) is $15, but the 13.x releases are freeware and support everything needed. The KSP thread has been doing informal races in it for a while - fastest to 10km, fastest to the moon, fastest to land on the moon and return to the launchpad intact, etc. Stock parts only, of course.

I can't believe people could actually get their shuttles off the ground.

Also, I'd like to throw Dustforce into consideration. While the game is kind of railroady about how you play the game if you want to beat it, individual levels could be raced. There's individual timing per level, with some shortcuts to use and deathwarps to abuse for just speedrunning as opposed to fully completing the level.

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ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


JAssassin posted:

I can't believe people could actually get their shuttles off the ground.

I not only get them off the ground, I fly them to the north pole, leave a few satellites in orbit on the way, drop a remote-controlled rover there, then return and land on the runway at the space centre.

I don't do it very quickly, though. All of my speed-oriented designs tend to either tear themselves apart or burst into flames before leaving atmosphere.

rashreflection
Sep 19, 2007

So you're the hater, huh?

Former Human posted:

It's all about maxing out donations. Popular games get more donations, and RPGs get tons of donations for things like choosing character names. I'm afraid Typing of the Dead can't compete with that.

Come on man, I know you know better than this. It's not Typing of the Dead vs. Final Fantasy (except in terms of personal entertainment), it's more like Typing of the Dead vs. Legacy of the Wizard and Rygar and that crappy Alice game.

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005


Some people have been speedrunning Minecraft, either using custom adventure maps (the ones by Vechs are most popular due to their good design and high difficulty) or by setting an objective in the vanilla game.

UraniumAnchor
May 21, 2006

Not a walrus.


oh no I'm a cheater

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when people are summoning you all over the place to "be their friend".



UraniumAnchor posted:

oh no I'm a cheater

You fiend.

Former Human
Oct 15, 2001



rashreflection posted:

Come on man, I know you know better than this. It's not Typing of the Dead vs. Final Fantasy (except in terms of personal entertainment), it's more like Typing of the Dead vs. Legacy of the Wizard and Rygar and that crappy Alice game.

Rygar is awesome

waspinator
Oct 18, 2004

by Y Kant Ozma Post


UraniumAnchor posted:

oh no I'm a cheater

reporteing u

Dr. Dos
Aug 5, 2005

YAAAAAAAY!

I'd love to give the original Zelda a go for baby's first speedrun.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys

UraniumAnchor posted:

oh no I'm a cheater

That poor dude is going to have an aneurysm when he sees his first Mario64 SDA speedrun. CheatCHEATcheatCheatCHHHEEEEAAATTTcheat... (first few seconds of the run)

HoldYourFire
Oct 16, 2006

What's the time? It's DEFCON 1!

There was someone like that in Peaches_' Typing of the Dead stream, but this time it was taking damage to save time that was apparently cheating. What a moron.

Captain Novolin
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.


New rule for the scrub league: NO CHEATING. These "professionals" are just dirty cheaters, the new generation of speedrunners is better than that.

factorialite
Mar 3, 2008


Dr. Dos posted:

I'd love to give the original Zelda a go for baby's first speedrun.

This is a pro idea and we should do this.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

...


Metroid games are pretty much made for speed running, Metroid: Zero Mission literally so. It's really easy to learn, too.

take_it_slow
Jul 7, 2011


I was also thinking we could get in on the ground floor with a newly released indie game w/ versions for pc, mac, and linux: Lone Survivor.

waspinator
Oct 18, 2004

by Y Kant Ozma Post


How easy is it to get in on the ground floor with a game like MMX4? I know quite a bit about SOTN from playing it for years so maybe I will go ahead and pick that up too even though I said I'd stay away from the "mainstream" speed running games. I mean, they're mainstream for a reason, after all.

Switched.on
Apr 25, 2008


I really like this idea of a more casual speedrunning league. I've been meaning to try and get into it, but I haven't been able to decide on a relatively easyish (not too easy) game to cut my teeth on.

HKR
Jan 13, 2006



Alright, here's my short list:

-The Legend of Zelda: Easily obtainable (ROM, wii), good documentation to learn, and a fairly popular title so people outside of this thread might be interested.

-Cave Story: Original version is free, various lesser versions are cheap.

-Bastion: Available on everything, even Chrome. It also is still ripe for trick discovery. A little expensive if you didn't manage to grab it on sale though.

-Ninja Gaiden (Original 1, 2 or 3). I only put this here because I want to watch people lose their mind on how hard it is.

Marathon: (any of the three) Freeware and also on XBLA. Not many people have played these though.

Breetai posted:

What about games that aren't traditionally 'completable', but that can have some sort of goal criteria? For example; fastest time to a population of 200,000 in Simcity 4.

I kind of want to stick to games and goals that SDA would accept. Both as a way to introduce new players to speed running and also to motivate people who have been thinking about taking up a game to speed run for SDA. Basically I want a looser interpretation of SDA's rules (Emulators allowed, no super strict rules on how video needs to be recorded etc) while still maintaining the spirit.

Vakal posted:

I wish I still had a working PSOne. There are some good candidates for speed running there.

Jurassic Park: Lost World, for example, was a nice mix of entertaining to watch, yet ball numbingly difficult at times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...zPI6lqI#t=5644s

Because the game is only available on one console (Over 15 years old) and hasn't been ported to anything else, this is a poor choice as obtaining a copy legally would be a bit harder (Or even obtaining illegally; I doubt there's many sites hosting an ISO of a really bad PS1 game).

Obviously this is still in the planning stage so I'm still taking suggestions, but I think that short list offers a good amount of variety.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007



Would anyone be interested in a Ninja Gaiden 2(360) master ninja speed run.

I've been considering it for awhile but don't know if anyone would watch it.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys

John Quixote posted:

I do agree that whatever game is chosen, it should be either less than ten dollars or freeware/abandonware outright. We don't want to make people put in too much of a financial commitment.

How about something like RunMan: Race Around the World? Freeware, looks like it was built for speedrunning and I don't think it's been run to death like Cave Story and such.

I think this is the right kind of choice because being freeware or donateware eliminates barrier of entry, non-console doesn't bring any problems of emulated vs not emulated or platform discrepancies, and it looks like a unique indie game that could use some exposure (and assuming it's got depth and solid programming) and will most likely earn some donations (and/or angry fists if it gets balls hard).

HoldYourFire
Oct 16, 2006

What's the time? It's DEFCON 1!

HKR posted:

Marathon: (any of the three) Freeware

I did not know this.

HKR
Jan 13, 2006



HoldYourFire posted:

I did not know this.

http://source.bungie.org/

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


HoldYourFire posted:

I did not know this.

Bungie open-sourced the Marathon 2/Infinity engine around 2000, at which point it was pretty rapidly polished up and ported to a bunch of different platforms (and M1 was ported to it, as well). The actual game content was released as freeware some years later.

It's only relatively recently that Aleph One (the open-source version) has become polished enough to be considered "1.0", though. And it's still not as slick as, say, gzDoom or eduke32 (for example, it still uses shear pitch).

A lot of Marathon TCs work with it too.

And multiplayer is actually playable over the internet now.

HoldYourFire
Oct 16, 2006

What's the time? It's DEFCON 1!

Oh don't worry, I downloaded it as soon as I saw your post. But thanks for bringing it to my attention to begin with!

katkillad2
Aug 30, 2004
"The fact that my heart's beating is all the proof you needed..."

Funkdoc's heroes of wrestling down for anyone else? loving narcs

Spraynard Kruger
May 8, 2007



katkillad2 posted:

Funkdoc's heroes of wrestling down for anyone else? loving narcs

I'm sure he'll find a way to keep it going, keep an eye on his twitter account.

Lord Chumley
May 14, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!


katkillad2 posted:

Funkdoc's heroes of wrestling down for anyone else? loving narcs

Ok which one of you pantywaists snitched?!

Edit: Check Funk's twitter.

Lord Chumley fucked around with this message at Apr 10, 2012 around 01:45

HKR
Jan 13, 2006



public forum

H2Omelon
Aug 31, 2009


Crossposted from the Early FPS megathread:

H2Omelon posted:

Who likes ridiculous Doom TAS speedruns? How about a full no-monsters run of Doom 2, except the guy plays all 4 players at the same time?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1T7veqA9gM

MAP29 is completely ridiculous.

H2Omelon posted:

Yup, there's a bug in the Doom engine called "thingrunning" that lets you run way faster if you're strafe running alongside another object, which you can see happening clearly in the secret level. They also shoot each other to add to their momentum, restocking on health and ammo during any downtime.

And the whole thing is topped off by a double archvile jump into the icon of sin's brain to point-blank BFG Romero's head.

flatluigi
Apr 22, 2008

here come the planes


HKR posted:

-Bastion: Available on everything, even Chrome. It also is still ripe for trick discovery. A little expensive if you didn't manage to grab it on sale though.

I would love to see Bastion speedrun.

yaoi prophet
Apr 9, 2007

"keep twisting junior all you get is clicks." - Barack HUSSEIN Obama, 2012


flatluigi posted:

I would love to see Bastion speedrun.

The kid takes damage to save time. But what about the damage to his mind?

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

H2Omelon posted:

Crossposted from the Early FPS megathread:

I know this game like the back of my hand and I can't follow this at all. Cool concept, though.

JavaJesus
Jul 4, 2007



I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned in here yet, but it looks like there's been a new warp found in Ocarina of Time. If I remember Cosmo's explanation of it in his stream, when you beat Queen Gohma you play a bottle like an ocarina at the edge of the warp, and that lets you run around inside the Deku Tree. Then if you enter a nearby door on the right frame you'll be warped to Ganon's castle with Ganondorf already having been defeated, letting you do the castle escape and Ganon fight as Child Link. Sockfolder is practicing it and figuring out timing right now!

Soulcleaver
Sep 25, 2007

Murderer

Alteisen posted:

Would anyone be interested in a Ninja Gaiden 2(360) master ninja speed run.

I've been considering it for awhile but don't know if anyone would watch it.
I would love to see this.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 9, 2007

Remind me to work out until I also am buff and have to keep a pillow in front of my okay I'll be honest this is like the 50th custom title I've done tonight and I'm just phoning it in now.

OoT really is the greatest game ever.

fleshweasel
Aug 23, 2004

Weasels Ripped My Flesh


JavaJesus posted:

I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned in here yet, but it looks like there's been a new warp found in Ocarina of Time. If I remember Cosmo's explanation of it in his stream, when you beat Queen Gohma you play a bottle like an ocarina at the edge of the warp, and that lets you run around inside the Deku Tree. Then if you enter a nearby door on the right frame you'll be warped to Ganon's castle with Ganondorf already having been defeated, letting you do the castle escape and Ganon fight as Child Link. Sockfolder is practicing it and figuring out timing right now!

I can't believe all the poo poo that has happened to this game in the last 7 years I've watched speedruns of it. 7 years in the temple of fags

yaoi prophet
Apr 9, 2007

"keep twisting junior all you get is clicks." - Barack HUSSEIN Obama, 2012


"What does this skip? It skips, uh, the game."

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!


Funkdoc back to streaming, this time working on CV3 Trevor-only run.

http://www.twitch.tv/srkfunkdoc

usedpizza
Jan 1, 2009

Give it up for the champ


Zfg1 just beat Ocarina of Time in 35:15 on his first completion with the new skip. Including beating Ganon as child link. Fun stuff. http://www.twitch.tv/zfg1 in case he does some more.

Fun fact: It's faster than the current TAS

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HKR
Jan 13, 2006



these cheaters are shameless

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