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Dr. Dos posted:What's the current MST record? Because that's always been the coolest category. 2:08:03 I wish more people would run MST because it's way more entertaining  heeheex2 posted:See: ALttP any% alttp any% no s+q no oob no yba no eg
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BloodWulfe posted:alttp any% no s+q no oob no yba no eg also you have to do all the dungeons, but we never SAID that you should just know that it's implied.
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Apr 19, 2014 18:59
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Lynx Winters posted:Gildersneeze just got a 21:06 on Demonhead, the first real major PB since starting his new route a few weeks ago. For reference: Menu Boss isn't something I can actively control, it's a nickname for the item menu. The item menu in the game (the one which you enter by hitting Select) is atrociously programed. Every other frame spent in the menu is a lag frame, and it will drop inputs pretty much every time you hit a button on one of those frames. It took around six button presses to put on the Jet Pak. I've tried everything I can to combat it; longer button presses, timing it to the flash of the arrow, short button presses, tapping (worst plan, don't do this ever), mashing (more likely to put an item on, then immediately take it off, or exit/reenter the menu), swearing loudly, ancient rituals, and the only thing which works well enough is to always try to enter the menu at the same point in the game every time. Needless to say, "well enough" means "only fucks up royally about half the time instead of all the time."
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Apr 19, 2014 19:54
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BloodWulfe posted:2:08:03
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Apr 19, 2014 22:01
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Yea mst is cool as gently caress but it got super fucky with wrong warp, all dungeons makes a lot more sense as a category now.
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Apr 19, 2014 23:39
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heeheex2 posted:Yea mst is cool as gently caress but it got super fucky with wrong warp, all dungeons makes a lot more sense as a category now. I'm not sure what you mean by super fucky. MST still works just fine as a category.
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Apr 20, 2014 00:45
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For those of us not on the inside baseball, what is MST?
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Apr 20, 2014 01:53
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"Medallions, Stones, Trials." You need to touch all 8 blue warps at the end of every dungeon, and do all of Ganon's trials. It's sort of an outdated name with RBA in play, since it's off-limits to use RBA to get medallions or stones. I forget what the distinction between it and All Dungeons is.
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Apr 20, 2014 01:56
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Suspicious Dish posted:"Medallions, Stones, Trials." All Dungeons skips trials. It changes the route completely because you can skip the Bow, Fire Arrows, Light Arrows, and Zelda's Lullaby.
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Apr 20, 2014 01:59
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How do you skip Light Arrows? Wrong warp? Is RBA off-limits in All Dungeons?
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Suspicious Dish posted:How do you skip Light Arrows? Wrong warp? Is RBA off-limits in All Dungeons? You wrong warp from the fire temple to the Ganon's castle escape sequence. RBA is allowed in All Dungeons but it was found to be slower. ZFG ran the RBA route at AGDQ if you're interested in seeing it (it's insane.)
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Apr 20, 2014 02:01
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You skip light arrows the same way you do in any%.
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I've been grinding out speedruns on a game called FlyWrench. It's a short little game that is ridiculously hard. I'm actually gonna be grinding it hardcore until I PB again (Which would be WR as I am literally 1 second behind the current WR for it) right now. I think it's kosher to post speedrun streams here right? If not I'll remove it. http://www.twitch.tv/pinssa
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A couple pages late, but Guacamelee got into SGDQ hooray!
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Pins posted:I've been grinding out speedruns on a game called FlyWrench. It's a short little game that is ridiculously hard. I'm actually gonna be grinding it hardcore until I PB again (Which would be WR as I am literally 1 second behind the current WR for it) right now. Posting speedruns (streams or otherwise) is pretty much the point of this thread, so yeah, post away!
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Pins posted:I've been grinding out speedruns on a game called FlyWrench. It's a short little game that is ridiculously hard. I'm actually gonna be grinding it hardcore until I PB again (Which would be WR as I am literally 1 second behind the current WR for it) right now. i dont remember flywrench being that hard, but it's a nice different thing to see run. Oh, didn't notice it was you pins, hey pins. The Rokstar posted:A couple pages late, but Guacamelee got into SGDQ hooray! I remember it being way too streamlined and tightly designed to allow for much sequence breaking, if any at all. Is it mostly skillful play or are there some glitches here and there?
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ArfJason posted:i dont remember flywrench being that hard, but it's a nice different thing to see run. Once you get the double jump and the wall jump you can cancel a wall jump into a dodge and then jump back into the wall and that lets you skip picking up the wall... shooter-upper thing... whatever that was called (it's been a while). So that lets you skip the second half of the Tule Tree and you can also leave the Temple of War right after you get the dash punch so that you never have to fight Flame Face. Up until that point there aren't really any sequence breaks, but that's a pretty drat big one.
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The Rokstar posted:Once you get the double jump and the wall jump you can cancel a wall jump into a dodge and then jump back into the wall and that lets you skip picking up the wall... shooter-upper thing... whatever that was called (it's been a while). So that lets you skip the second half of the Tule Tree and you can also leave the Temple of War right after you get the dash punch so that you never have to fight Flame Face. that's crazy cool and im surprised i didnt accidentally find that myself
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heeheex2 posted:no i mean like he legit has the wr any% are some of the more entertaining runs out there, I'm not sure what the joke is.
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Golbez posted:For those of us not on the inside baseball, what is MST? I sometimes forget there are so many acronyms. MST no RBA no WW. Be sure to practice your ESS and ISS. You'll get a HESS if you're lucky. Also practice your ISG. ICA can be useful occasionally too. loving impenetrable ramblings if you don't follow it.
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BloodWulfe posted:I sometimes forget there are so many acronyms. ESS and ISS are the same trick, nerd.
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I like how we found that if we shielded damage while holding an object, we'd slide backwards super fast and we were like "whoa, hot drat, that's a super slide" and then we found out that if we tilt the stick ever so slightly, we could turn while we do it, even if the speed was slower, so we were like "drat, that's an extended super slide" and then we found out that if we do it from a megaflip or jumpslash recoil, we could keep the initial super slide speed and also turn at the same time and we were like "daaaaamn, that's a hyper extended super slide"
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Suspicious Dish posted:and then we found out that if we do it from a megaflip or jumpslash recoil, we could keep the initial super slide speed and also turn at the same time and we were like "daaaaamn, that's a hyper extended super slide" That's a WESS (water extended super slide). This is a HESS. 
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I was just looking at ZSR's definition here. http://www.zeldaspeedruns.com/oot/tech/extended-superslide#hess It seems they're wrong. Looking at Grunz's original video, there's nothing about a megaflip or Nayru's love. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5KspxkFPNU
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Suspicious Dish posted:ESS and ISS are the same trick, nerd. Suspicious Dish posted:I like how we found that if we shielded damage while holding an object, we'd slide backwards super fast and we were like "whoa, hot drat, that's a super slide" habanero walrus posted:That's a WESS (water extended super slide). This is a HESS. loving impenetrable ramblings
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My favorite trick name is Windy B, because it's just so much fun to say. Windy B. Windy B! Windy B!!!
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Impenetrable terms are sort of part and parcel for things that are niche and things that are very technical. It'd be weirder if speedrunning didn't have an argot of its own.
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Pins posted:I've been grinding out speedruns on a game called FlyWrench. It's a short little game that is ridiculously hard. I'm actually gonna be grinding it hardcore until I PB again (Which would be WR as I am literally 1 second behind the current WR for it) right now. I enjoyed watching this and I'm probably gonna play this game now, as infuriating as it looks.
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Nothing holds a candle to the Full Hot drat. (a difficult maneuver in Richter any% SotN reverse Colosseum) SM tricks and more importantly, room names are pretty awesome too. The Full Halfie especially.
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Shabadu posted:Nothing holds a candle to the Full Hot drat. (a difficult maneuver in Richter any% SotN reverse Colosseum) My favorite is the perfectly descriptive "The Worst Room in The Game".
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Shabadu posted:SM tricks and more importantly, room names are pretty awesome too. The Full Halfie especially. I hadn't even considered how impenetrable SM room names would be. Personally I like Hellway. JRPGs are relatively tame compared to alttp, oot, sotn, and sm. Fade out glitch, unqeuip glitch, mist clip, diehard%, generic overflow usage, fish manipulation, and RJD aren't very exciting names.
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 Thanks for hanging out with me fellas. Pulled the run down a whole minute so far. I'm actually legitimately satisfied with myself right now. Edit: 5 mins later 
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During the AGDQ last year where Future Cop:LAPD was the speedrun competition game, there was a trick called the "right side clip" because you could only achieve it with the right side of your character. When it was discovered that you could also do it with the left side of the character, that trick was called the "reverse right side clip." I think sleep deprivation was a factor in this.
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ESA2014 now has a "final game list". It lists 270 hours, though. While there will be two streams, the second one seems like it's going to be mostly not speedruns, so we'll see how that works out...
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KennyMan666 posted:While there will be two streams, the second one seems like it's going to be mostly not speedruns, so we'll see how that works out... It's going to be Yoshi's Story, Mario Party and assorted wankery.
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KennyMan666 posted:ESA2014 now has a "final game list". It lists 270 hours, though. While there will be two streams, the second one seems like it's going to be mostly not speedruns, so we'll see how that works out... Oh man, do not miss the Pikmin run. If you have not seen an all parts run of Pikmin, you are in for a hell of a treat, it's loving crazy. DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Apr 20, 2014 |
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KennyMan666 posted:ESA2014 now has a "final game list". It lists 270 hours, though. While there will be two streams, the second one seems like it's going to be mostly not speedruns, so we'll see how that works out... gently caress yeah, Kynos submitted the Yuffie Warp route for FF7
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I've thought for a while about how one could even speedrun ikaruga, since the game (given you never die) always plays out with the exact same timing, save for bossess where you can actually end things faster. Would they be going for a high score run or
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Yeah that genre is usually played for score if you want to be competitive about it.
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The Super R-Type for SNES TAS saves over 10 minutes compared a regular run just from optimized lag reduction: http://tasvideos.org/1157M.html
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