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pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Crotch Bat posted:

I like the 3 Funkdoc Castlevanias because even though he's pretty banal he makes up with great gameplay.

I thought he did a pretty good job at the last AGDQ. He's one of the few runners who can keep a conversation going or give commentary without sacrificing run quality. When you're playing games as tough as the CV games, that's really drat impressive.

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pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
I expected it to have more of a NBMB route, but the route they took was pretty insane. Also, they are using such precise, frame-specific movements that it looks like they're cutting frames out of the recording.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
That couldn't have been closer if they had tried to be. Holy poo poo.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
He's been bringing it on the CV3 runs lately. Jesus, sub-31 wasn't even on the radar until yesterday and he beat that twice today.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
I'm pretty sure his original WR attempts on the VC had something like that happen on one of the runs, too. That goomba can troll like a motherfucker.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
He's really drat close to the goal, though. I think he's definitely showed that sub-31 is possible, and it'd be kind of silly to just give up on it now after all the improvement he's gotten in it. He's still refining a lot of the poo poo. It's pretty crazy.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
I think he needs a little bit of a break from CV3. I mean, I understand how he wants the record, and how he's really close, but sometimes, putting in more time just burns you out. I know that when I practice stuff a lot, after a while, I just end up going through the motions and make dumb mistakes that I wasn't making before. A little bit of a break can refocus you sometimes.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
I guess my take on the whole thing is if you can reproduce that result with multiple carts on multiple NES, it seems like it'd be pretty hard to just throw it out. The thing is, the times between the two are so vastly different in the end, but during the run, it's really loving hard to tell which way it's behaving. That's just rough.

I don't really think he should get rid of today's run, even if he suspects something wasn't quite right. It's still a really loving impressive run, and worth looking over.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

ChibiSoma posted:

Retro were kinda jerks about it too, as I recall.

I really don't understand why they were so upset. If it weren't for seeing Radix's 1:37, I probably wouldn't have played that game NEARLY as much as I ended up doing. The sequence breaks you could do in MP1 made it really enjoyable, and added a ton of replayability. The same can be said of the ones from Super Metroid. The fact that SM and MP1 are some of the better games in the series isn't really a coincidence, either.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
Hydlide seems really bad. Wow.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
Bringing up the Olympics is kind of funny for an analogy that is trying to (poorly) attack his valid point. Remember how much poo poo NBC caught for running events on tape delay just to match up with prime time in America and people had already heard about the results from Twitter/other online sources? That's exactly what's going on with SDA/speedrunners streaming on Twitch.

Just due to the nature of the speedrunning community, new tricks pop up all the time, and you can see these work their way into speedruns on streams a lot faster than you will on SDA. You can see a run evolve as new strats are developed and things are tried out. I remember way back on the CV3 episode of the Sunday Sequence Break, Funkdoc was talking about glitches that were used in the TAS and how he wanted to test them out to see if they were viable in a live run on a console. He tested out some of these and figured out what saved time and what really wasn't worth it pretty much over the next day or two after that. It's neat to see that kind of progression go on.

Don't get me wrong, I still am a big fan of SDA, but with so many runners streaming on Twitch now, it's not the fastest way to see these kinds of things. I think it still has its place in the community, because of the quality standards that it holds the runs up to, and it being a nice, organized place to see runs of various games without having to dig through (sometimes poorly labelled) video archives. For some people, they're not really interested in the behind the scenes kind of stuff that goes into making a speed run, so SDA is much better for them.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Leonid posted:

Many runners for the #SMW and hurricane sandython marathons have been speaking out about UA's many mean-spirited comments during them, so I figured I'd address the problem directly.

And by directly, you mean in a public forum. Clearly, this is the best place/way to handle this kind of thing.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

On a brighter note, The Sunday Sequence Break's new segment is debuting in like 10 minutes. It features people who've had a short amount of time to learn a couple games competing to see how fast they can be or something like that: http://www.twitch.tv/thesundaysequencebreak/new

This is a neat idea but I think 30 mins might be a little long for these segments. I think maybe 20 mins would be a big improvement.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

CVagts posted:

One of the more interesting marathon developments to watch is the rise of GTAVC/SA speedruns. The marathons have always had a PG-13 rule because of charities, but there's a lot of interest in GTA runs, and I think at some point they're going to have to make it into at least the graveyard shift of a major marathon.

GTA 3 was run in the graveyard shift of this AGDQ already.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

argondamn posted:

More than that. He got the WR when it was 6:13.

Yeah, but to be fair, Jiano's 6:13 was before superswim was doable on a console.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

Basically the low-down on Sonic timing is that if you go fast, the time bonus gained from going fast at the end of a level will take so long on the results screen that it is actually slower real-time than if you just waste a few seconds doing bullshit.

If anyone wants to see a good example of this kind of thing, watch this race between werster and mike89 from AGDQ13.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
I honestly don't think it's irrelevant, but if Cosmo actually puts in all the features he wants to on the leaderboards, I know which one I'll be visiting more. There are some things that I think are better suited for the SDA format (runner comments, in particular). Also, as long as SRL just is IRC for communication, SDA forums will still be a solid place for speedrunning discussion.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
Sure, there's the quakenet chat for better moderation, but when people see the SDA channel at/near the top of the channels on twitch, they don't get sent to the quakenet chat. In fact, I'd guess that a good majority of people who watch the marathons don't even know that the quakenet chat exists.

Also, I'm not really sure that I buy that there are people who would only donate if they get to spam the gently caress out of a twitch chat.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
I'm alright with people getting donations, but to have those kind of donations come in right before SGDQ makes me a little sad.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Dizz posted:

It's why I get tired of some of these events because you always see SM64/Zelda/Final Fantasy/Metroid in them. I understand there's big names playing them and donation incentives but come on. I'd rather see a donation incentive to have big name speedrunners play Mario Party minigames or Mario Kart.

Super Metroid deserves to be in every marathon, because there's constantly new strats being developed (which is insane to think of for an almost 20 year old game) and it has a few good natural donation options (type of run, kill/save the animals).

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
Barring a horrible MB fight, this is prob going to be a new record, even with some hiccups in Tourian.

edit: 45:03. He prob would have had sub 45 with a better Tourian 1 and a few less misses on MB3. Ridiculous.

pyromance fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Aug 29, 2013

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

hitze posted:

I swear I overheard on the mics someone informing the commentator right after Cosmos run that the Triforce thing Mirrored made as a prize was no longer available as a prize. :tinfoil:

Isn't that standard procedure on prizes in the marathons? There's a window to donate for a prize and the cutoff has to be somewhere, and it's typically after the related game ends.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Gamma Nerd posted:

So I just went into Rom's stream and I see "possible new trick for sub-7 clock rush"

:stare:

Fuckin SOTN. That game will never stop getting broken.

Yeah, here's a video of the trick that allows it to be done. After sitting in Rom's stream and hearing what it would take to actually meet all the criteria and get a sub-7 clock rush, I think this is probably TAS only.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
The fairy voice thing allows him to open up his menu while at the shop, which allows him to equip the garnet, which causes the inventory to underflow. Basically gives infinite gold and allows early purchase of duplicator. It was done with the sword familiar before people figured out how to get the fairy.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Dizz posted:

Let's not forget his OOT runs which were blatantly spliced and people just wived it through because "the game is like that because TSA just owns and the game is bugging out"

It probably also didn't help that it was a 5 hour run.

edit: Yeah, quoted the wrong post. Not sure how the hell I messed that one up so badly. Regardless, I could easily see spacing out a little bit and missing an "obvious splice" if you're not actually getting paid to scrutinize a run that long.

pyromance fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Nov 18, 2013

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
SotN has gone through so many changes in the past month. It's insane how much more broken an already broken game has become with more people working on skips.

Also, skipping Death at the beginning means that the meal ticket drop COULD happen in a normal run, rather than requiring specific runs for it, which puts it a little closer to actually happening.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
If there's significant difference between the two, yeah, probably. The ~14 seconds Cosmo measured out before the rocks glitch is a pretty significant edge on an 18 minute run.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Alteisen posted:

The Mario All-Stars is about to start for anyone interested, Pie organized it but I'm sure others are participating if you don't wanna watch him.

Edit: Here's a giant multitwitch link, just pick a runner.

http://multitwitch.tv/iateyourpie/sessh/sparrowstreams/sabby23/countdown42/modernmoogle/phathome666/tsukigato

I'm really shocked at the SRG schedule, considering that general hates so many of the runners on it.

There is no way that most of those people even GET to the lost levels, yet alone beat them.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Ciaphas posted:

My SGDQ money will be going to making sure the La Mulana run is the remake and not the original, I dunno about anyone else. :v:

That run is pretty slick now, not gonna lie. I think it was run 2 SRGs ago and the WR on it has dropped about 25 mins since then.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
I know pastebin is a legitimate site, but it seems like the only time I ever get linked to it is from speedrunners making questionable open letters.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
Showcase race was a thing before they decided to get it sponsored. I think they did 3-4 before the Machinima thing happened. One of them was some kind of Megaman multi-game race (maybe 1-8 robot masters?), they had a 3 category SotN one (any% Alucard, Richter, and Alucard all bosses), and I wanna say the first one was LttP any% no s&q, hosted by peaches_ and pie from someone's house.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

CrashCat posted:

I still think it's hilarious that the mere idea of putting together one place people could use for leaderboards rather than have one lonely wiki page referencing maybe fifty different sites could be offensive. Never mind that it got derailed indefinitely due to infighting. As far as I can tell he just wanted all those separate people to have one place they could use but with all the dickwaving about who would have 'control' it could never get off the ground.

I still look at some of the more vocal people from that argument as literal crazy people. I am completely baffled that there were people so mad about people linking to their streams/youtube videos that they were threatening to take them down. The Zelda 2 group stood together in fighting the evil leaderboards. Keep fighting, PresJPolk :patriot:

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
Moutain Dew sponsored Evo this year, so I guess it's a possibility.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Cubey posted:

https://twitter.com/GoronGuy/status/422203488341200896

Yes, it was this tweet that made me unfollow GoronGuy on Twitch.


Sexually harassed like every woman he came across, grabbed at least one random girl's rear end, was very obviously drunk and/or high during his extremely grating run, argued when he was told to leave by the event organizers and the hotel staff, so the police were called to escort him away and he argued with them too. Mike Uyama did talk about all of this a while ago.

http://www.twitch.tv/mikwuyma/c/4947977 - skip to about 20 minutes in for more details.

Can we get this in a pastebin format because I don't know if I can accept speedrunner drama without awkward pastebins.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Suspicious Dish posted:

Amazon finally cracking down on the one part of Twitch we were all horrified to see: naked boobs.

Didn't Amazon do this with Tumblr when they bought it for a little bit? Ban all the porn and then somewhere along the line, that's basically half of tumblr again.

edit: Well, poo poo, apparently Yahoo bought Tumblr. Ignore then.

pyromance fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Oct 27, 2014

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Clitch posted:

Christ. Just have a Mature stream tag that you have to be logged in to enable viewing like every other nerd content delivery service. Hell, it would boost account signups, and make the platform more attractive to investors.

They already have the mature stream thing, but it's basically a one time thing so you really don't see it very often.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

MooCowlian posted:

Holding out for the own3d stream.

I have some bad news...

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
The Billy Mitchell.

e:fb. Are you kidding me?

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Magic Underwear posted:

The two tweets are literally one minute apart. That is devastating.

I believe you mean "hilarious."

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pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
Those villagers should have banded together sooner. They seem like they can get a lot of poo poo done.

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