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Haha, looking back at some of the updates, the Azeri army really is pretty insane. We totally are the Prussia of this world. Hell, Prussia on crack, really, considering that we've had the equivalent of half a dozen Frederick William I's in a row when it comes to showering the army with money. And not spending it on useless regiments of tall men either, when it comes to the military the Azeri army is highly innovative. The army is probably a very good career option for Azerbaijanis. Unlike the navy. "Oops, our entire fleet just got sunk. Again. BUILD ANEW." I'm guessing press gangs are the only way for people to recruit enough sailors for yet another fleet that's going to get put on the sea floor by whoever Azerbaijan is going to fight again.
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Jan 28, 2012 16:37
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LordBaxter posted:Those days aren't over, there's people who think that vaccinations cause autism, or are in fact secret projects by the government to implant mind-control nanobots or whatever. Swine-flu hysteria is an example of where I went "gently caress that poo poo i'm not getting it just because the media wants to sell papers" and that had side-effects and stuff.. at least I think so?
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Affi posted:Swine-flu hysteria is an example of where I went "gently caress that poo poo i'm not getting it just because the media wants to sell papers" and that had side-effects and stuff.. at least I think so? 
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Pakled posted:To be fair, I'd probably be more skeptical of the vaccination back when it was a new concept than I am today, after hundreds of years have proven its effectiveness. "You want me to inject the blood of a sick cow into my body? And this is somehow supposed to prevent me from getting sick? To be even more fair, it wasn't the blood of a sick cow. It was the pus squeezed from the lesions on a sick cow's udder.
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cwDeici posted:What do you think history would look like if they'd caved in? Discounting effects echoing back at the US I think the Indian territories would've lasted longer (perhaps even survival for one or two?), and the US's political rise would have been slower... but maybe Canada would be part of the US now? Were the northern colonists more or less different than the Yanks were to the Dixie? For the first part, I have no idea since there might have been an attempt at independence anyways (Granting Parliament Rep to the colonists probably would have come too late to prevent people from realizing they really don't necessarily need the King to survive.... possibly) although if the Colonists went with it, I cannot guess the consequences to history without the influence of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution would have on other colonies, especially the ones in South and Central America (Would their independence movements have been as successful? Would they be the ones to create something like a democracy and be known for their documents? or would they immediately slide into some form of dictatorship?) As for the second question on Canada, it would probably have been united if not for us Americans losing the battle of Quebec City. There was actually some support for independence in Canada up to that point, although we mucked it up with us trying to deal with possible loyalist sympathizers in the region. Aside from the French Canadians, there wasn't much differentiating US and Canadian colonists from one another until the end of the Revolutionary war, where a significant amount of Colonists still supporting the British Empire fled to Canada, since it was still in British hands. This of course marked an end to possible unification between the two areas. Although that would have been an interesting alternate history where the US controls 2/3rds of North America (What would have the drive for "Manifest Destiny" look like in the 1840's? Would there have been more calls for the total conquest of North America? Or would it be more muted then OTL since we would have more lands to settle?)
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Jan 28, 2012 18:49
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Dibujante posted:FUN FAQCKS!~ I did not need you to tell me that your average Scottish citizen was much smarter than your average British citizen Sir.  End of derail.
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Jan 28, 2012 22:21
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A Tartan Tory posted:I did not need you to tell me that your average Scottish citizen was much smarter than your average British citizen Sir. But Scotland is in Britain. 
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Jan 28, 2012 22:38
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Hyord posted:But Scotland is in Britain. But he compared averages.
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Phlegmish posted:But he compared averages. I noticed my own mistake almost immediately after posting, but was too proud to edit my post
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Jan 28, 2012 22:50
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DarkCrawler posted:Haha, looking back at some of the updates, the Azeri army really is pretty insane. We totally are the Prussia of this world. Hell, Prussia on crack, really, considering that we've had the equivalent of half a dozen Frederick William I's in a row when it comes to showering the army with money. And not spending it on useless regiments of tall men either, when it comes to the military the Azeri army is highly innovative. The army is probably a very good career option for Azerbaijanis. I was thinking along the same lines. While our ground forces dominate against armies many times their size, our forces at sea are so disposable and pathetic.
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Jan 28, 2012 23:01
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With the official dedication of the new Adana shipyards, I have this strange sense of foreboding that sometime in the coming century a sultan is going to say "I want have a *real* navy!"
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Jan 29, 2012 00:05
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Terrifying Effigies posted:With the official dedication of the new Adana shipyards, I have this strange sense of foreboding that sometime in the coming century a sultan is going to say "I want have a *real* navy!" Allah help us when the works of Mahan (or bizzaro-Mahan or whatever) comes to Azerbaijan.
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Jan 29, 2012 01:16
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We've finally got a nice number of coastal territories so a proper navy is going to be a must really. There may only be a little time left until the end of EUIII but if we get involved in another war having a fleet of three-deckers and transports will mean we won't get gimped by being unable to cross straights.
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Yeah, you gotta remember that we are now a major mediterranean and black sea nation now, with us possessing the entirety of asia minor. If we want to project force in the region, or stopping others from projecting force on us, we need a navy of a kind. It might be to little time left in EU3 to create a respectable navy, and a complete lack of naval national ideas will make us a little crippled. But come Vicky, we ought to pay some attention to it.
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 Chapter 46: The World of 1800  The old alliances are mostly gone, with the only alliance block left in Europe being the British-Espanyan alliance. The remaining powers of Europe have been unable to come together against the German threat, fighting and being defeated by the revolutionaries one at a time.                                                           
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Hyord posted:I noticed my own mistake almost immediately after posting, but was too proud to edit my post Too proud, or too drunk?
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You posted the third image after Country Status twice. Also, sorry if this has been asked before, but I always wonder watching these LPs why naval battles seem to be all or nothing affairs. I never see a battle where one side loses 5 ships and the other loses ten, it always seems to be one side being annihilated while the pother remains untouched. Is there a reason for this?
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Jan 29, 2012 12:40
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Looks like Russia got into some Crimean-like war, lost a third of its armies and modernized its government.
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So when are we gonna see german napoleon flip out and conquer burgundy in like 2 months?
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Gerblyn posted:You posted the third image after Country Status twice. That's pretty much how it is in EU3 (and most Paradox games). Naval battles are poorly balanced in the engine. The reason for this is that damage is spread out among the ships of a fleet, so whoever wins ends up with most of their ships taking a bit of damage but none sunk.
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Gerblyn posted:Also, sorry if this has been asked before, but I always wonder watching these LPs why naval battles seem to be all or nothing affairs. I never see a battle where one side loses 5 ships and the other loses ten, it always seems to be one side being annihilated while the pother remains untouched. Is there a reason for this? The simple answer is "because the EU3 engine treats naval battles almost identically to land battles and doesn't understand that a fleet being mostly sunk or captured as the result of a battle was incredibly rare in the age of sail." Trafalgar was an exception, but most of the battles in, say, the Anglo-Dutch wars caused the sinking or capture of about 10-20% of the ships involved.
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quote: . that makes so little sense.Also, are there any examples from OTL of nations where the 'main' ethnic group and/or religion wasn't even a plurality like how it is in Azerbaijan right now (unless the population density in the azerbaijani provinces is really high)? Austria-Hungary comes to mind but I think that the Germans still was the largest ethnic group there. e; discounting colonies that is. Kainser fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Jan 29, 2012 |
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Jan 29, 2012 12:54
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Noooo Nan Han  Funny how China's only getting unified right at the end of EU3, though.
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Jan 29, 2012 12:59
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Look at that tolerance. We're actully the good guys this time  Also it's hilarious how Azerbaijan has a state of the art government and army, but every other tech lags 100 years behind.
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Jan 29, 2012 13:04
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So, Revolutionary Germany is kind of...terrifying.  Kainser posted:How does samiland have such great tech Can't remember any. Austria-Hungary had 24% Germans, but Azerbaijani Empire is like 14% Azeris...
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Kainser posted:How does samiland have such great tech Smaller countries in EU III get major tech bonuses because...I'm not sure. But they're just one province and in the Western group, so that makes them top of the line.
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Tomn posted:Noooo Nan Han I hope it significantly changes China's situation for Victoria, as the Zhen are going to have just reached the height of their power with no time to decline or stagnate, and the long drawn out war to unify China would mean that military innovation and advancement would have been a much stronger focus. I imagine China's going to have real difficulty industrialising if they don't get the major Chinese ethnicities as accepted cultures (I assume they're just going to get whatever culture "muslim chinese" is repesented by), but I could see them as being a lot like Austria Hungary and on par with the europeans, at least in military terms. To be honest in this world I'm not sure there should even be uncivilised nations, there's a lot more extra-european cohesion and strength in this timeline with China, Japan, Azerbijan, Mali the Mughals and Cherokee. Practically every major region has a major native power who can stand up to the Europeans.
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For the love of god use that CB on Bulgaria, you can grab Thrace and get that AI retardation eyesore Montenegro / Bosnia area cleaned up  Rev Germany is like some kind of rear end kicking machine, they still have tons of cores left to grab and their army is comparable to Burgundy's. I hope the AI makes the most of its remaining time without blobbing too much into non-German provinces.
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For the love of God, take the City of the Worlds desire with that Casus Belli I beg you oh mighty Sultan of Sultans!
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Kainser posted:How does samiland have such great tech The Qing Empire and a bunch of Mongol states would be the first examples that come to mind.
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Kainser posted:How does samiland have such great tech My guess is they've somehow kept a few merchants active in good CoTs. Since base tech costs are determined by how many provinces a country has, OPMs often lead the charts. Samiland's sole province should be quite poor, meaning you'd expect them to lag anyway, but if they had trade income it could push them back into contention. quote:Also, are there any examples from OTL of nations where the 'main' ethnic group and/or religion wasn't even a plurality like how it is in Azerbaijan right now (unless the population density in the azerbaijani provinces is really high)? Austria-Hungary comes to mind but I think that the Germans still was the largest ethnic group there. The game is still only on the leading edge of the historical period in which people even cared about that kind of thing. In OTL different ethnic communities within countries mostly kept to themselves, and the French-speaking elites who actually ruled most of Europe had far more in common with one another than with their subjects. That said, off-hand I can only think of a few countries like what you describe, at least in the modern era (the Middle Ages are rife with them). The most obvious are Qing China and the Mughal Empire. E: ^^^^ beaten
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A Tartan Tory posted:For the love of God, take the City of the Worlds desire with that Casus Belli I beg you oh mighty Sultan of Sultans! Or force Bulgaria to release Albania to pretty up their borders.
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Jan 29, 2012 13:49
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Actually, a German napoleon would probably want to snaffle up all those German independent states first, before deciding to go and die in Russia.
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Is there any way we can up our trade and production techs? I think we'll need those if we ever want to get some lovely trains in Vicky.
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We're currently getting Western Production Advisers, I think, so production tech should advance at a better rate.
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Production and Trade have been left back and it seems like we'll end EU3 only halfway to being modernised in these fields. Which should make things more interesting!
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Hey Bulgaria, look. I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you're making everyone uncomfortable with your behavior. Please try to be a little more considerate.
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A Tartan Tory posted:For the love of God, take the City of the Worlds desire with that Casus Belli I beg you oh mighty Sultan of Sultans! Going to be a bit tough without a navy. edit: also lol we're going to have like no commerce tech in Vicky 2
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Dr. Tough posted:Going to be a bit tough without a navy. I'm sure the time honoured tradition of making a large navy just to force one crossing in a single war before they all get sunk can be perpetuated. Plus, think of the borders man! The borders! They must be pretty! 
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