As an aside, has anybody else noticed that The Brethren have apparently survived and made it to EU3+? They moved to Bohemia, it seems.
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Jun 13, 2013 21:42
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I had an unnamed infant Holy Roman Emperor once.
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Jun 13, 2013 22:53
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Alikchi posted:I had an unnamed infant Holy Roman Emperor once. It can happen fairly frequently at game start since a UI is in line for Bohemia's kingship. In effect, though, I tend to find that they die very quickly after game start.
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Jun 13, 2013 23:11
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Redeye Flight posted:It can happen fairly frequently at game start since a UI is in line for Bohemia's kingship. In effect, though, I tend to find that they die very quickly after game start. Fairly frequently is a bit of an understatement. Every game I've played in Europe has had an UI on the throne for Bohemia after the first guy kicks the bucket. Though you're right about them dieing fairly quickly. I haven't seen one last more than a decade.
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Jun 14, 2013 06:05
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Well, I just FINALLY finished reading through the literally tens of thousands of posts that constitute this thread. Pretty amazing stuff. My hat's off to Wiz for the amount of work he's put into this; it's a really great read.
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Jun 15, 2013 02:07
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rizzen posted:Fairly frequently is a bit of an understatement. Every game I've played in Europe has had an UI on the throne for Bohemia after the first guy kicks the bucket. Though you're right about them dieing fairly quickly. I haven't seen one last more than a decade. That's because Bohemia starts off with an unnamed infant heir who is 65 years old. He dies before the starting king half the time, and when he does inherit, well, he naturally doesn't last very long.
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Jun 15, 2013 06:22
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Coming shortly to a thread near you:
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Jun 15, 2013 14:47
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Wiz posted:Coming shortly to a thread near you: We're not getting Austria-Hungarowned?
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Jun 15, 2013 14:48
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I can only assume they want to utilize our military power (what's left of it) as a buffer state.
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Jun 15, 2013 14:54
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At least our elections/Russian overlords chose the right person to lead Anatolia into our glorious future.
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Jun 15, 2013 14:54
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Dibujante posted:We're not getting Austria-Hungarowned? Nah, the Russians have no interest in setting up national republics since that'd give legitimacy to all the nationalist movements in their own territory. Note that they used a geographical border (the caucasus mountains) with no regard for the fact that they've now created enclaves of Azeris and Georgians in Russia.
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Jun 15, 2013 14:56
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 Jahan Jahan
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Jun 15, 2013 14:57
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We're going to go full-on Yugoslavia. This isn't going to end well, mark my words.
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Jun 15, 2013 15:00
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I'm surprised that Greece didn't get more of Anatolia. Now Kainser fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Jun 15, 2013 |
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Jun 15, 2013 15:08
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Wiz posted:Coming shortly to a thread near you: ... Our jews! Also our Georgians, and possibly some of our Azeris, but our Jews! Seriously though, wow thats pretty generous. The Greeks could have taken the entire Aegean, as well as Cyprus and other sundry places.
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Jun 15, 2013 15:28
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MinistryofLard posted:... Our jews! And our next order of business will be to throw those Greeks back across the Bosphorus
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Jun 15, 2013 15:30
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Dibujante posted:And our next order of business will be to throw those Greeks back across the Bosphorus And bring democracy back to Greece!
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Jun 15, 2013 15:32
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Wiz posted:Nah, the Russians have no interest in setting up national republics since that'd give legitimacy to all the nationalist movements in their own territory. Note that they used a geographical border (the caucasus mountains) with no regard for the fact that they've now created enclaves of Azeris and Georgians in Russia. That'll be fun come vicky 2
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Jun 15, 2013 15:40
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theblastizard posted:And bring democracy back to Greece! 
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Jun 15, 2013 15:45
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MinistryofLard posted:... Our jews! Cyprus at least is Armenian in this timeline, I'm assuming that the Greeks got what are still Greek majority lands and Anyway this sets up for an 'interesting' V2 at least. Compared to real world OE or Austria we're going to be much more progressive, (maybe?) have better tech, but have even worse problems with nationalists. At least big, scary Russia is our friend.
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Jun 15, 2013 15:54
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RabidWeasel posted:I'm assuming that the Greeks got what are still Greek majority lands and 
Kainser fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jun 15, 2013 |
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Jun 15, 2013 16:00
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 Chapter 4: Republic (1826-1828) The peace conditions imposed on Azerbaijan are harsh: In addition to the abolishment of the monarch and the creation of a revolutionary 'Anatolian Republic', significant territorial concessions are demanded.  The new border between Russia and Azerbaijan is fixed at the Caucasus mountains, leaving some one-third of Azerbaijan's territory and a significant part of its Azeri population under Russian rule.  Greece's ambitions of a pan-Greek union are quashed by Russia, who instead throw them a few bones in the form of Bursa and Rhodes, but leaving the key fort of Smyrna in Anatolian hands.  Tunga, having fled Tabriz before the city fell, escapes to Aleppo with a small army of loyal soldiers. He proclaims the independent Sultanate of Aleppo and then immediately turns to his cousins in Persia for protection. Russia, having little interest in fighting Persia for such an inconsequental territory as Aleppo, allow its loss.  One of Tunga's less talented but more ambitious generals, Jahan Jahan, is established as interim military dictator of Azerbaijan with a cadre of Russian 'advisors' to guide his decisions.  Jahan's first action is to rebuild the shattered Anatolian army, conscripting large numbers of peasants and promoting a number of lower-ranked officers from urban backgrounds to create a new revolutionary army and officer corps.  The new army utilizes a mix of Russian and Azeri tactics, with a strong artillery corps in the center flanked by highly mobile units of infantry, cavalry and guards.  Two such armies are raised, the limit of what Anatolia's reduced state finances can support.  Work also begins to fortify Izmit and protect the vulnerable Greek border.  In the West, the Burgundian wars draw to a close in 1837, with a white peace being signed between Burgundy and Italy.  The wars are not completely without territorial concessions however, with Italy taking a chunk out of Croatia and Burgundy being forced to cede Perpignan and Montpellier to Spain.   Even as one war ends, tension begins to mount on another front. Mostly recovered from its previous campaigns, Russia casts its eye on the monarchies of Europe once more.   In response Germany and Sweden, the most obvious targets of Russian ambition, quickly rally behind Italy.   The tense peace continues throughout fall and winter, until finally in spring of 1838 Russia declares war on Germany and all hell breaks loose.    The final battle between Revolution and Reaction has begun. 
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Jun 15, 2013 16:26
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Soo... will we earn shiny things for actively participating?
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Jun 15, 2013 16:36
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Time to invade
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Jun 15, 2013 16:37
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Tunga sucked anyway, Jahan Jahan will lead us to glory!
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Jun 15, 2013 16:38
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Would you mind posting the diplomatic map at the war's declaration? That really helps visualize the continental war.
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Jun 15, 2013 16:50
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Huh, I had totally forgotten about that map, I thought that the Armenian influence went a lot further west. The Russians are just straight up dicks to everyone I guess! 
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Jun 15, 2013 17:01
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ZearothK posted:Would you mind posting the diplomatic map at the war's declaration? That really helps visualize the continental war. Added.
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Jun 15, 2013 17:03
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RabidWeasel posted:Huh, I had totally forgotten about that map, I thought that the Armenian influence went a lot further west. The Russians are just straight up dicks to everyone I guess! Armenia used to own a lot of the Greek bits but they didn't culture-flip very much of it. There's Armenian minorities in a lot of Anatolia in the V2 scenario though.
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Jun 15, 2013 17:04
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Burn down the Pope's backyard, bring the Revolutionary glory back to Germany, fight off the reactionary hordes of Swedes who wish to take Finland's new-found freedom. Join the Revolutionary Guards today!
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Jun 15, 2013 17:06
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Let the russian dogs bleed themselves dry against the monarchs of europe, they stole our AZERIS.
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Jun 15, 2013 17:09
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Glorious Consul Jahan Jahan will lead us to a bright future free of oppressive monarchs! He will catch the bloodthirsty Tunga and bring him to justice!
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Jun 15, 2013 17:12
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Jahan Jahan? Guess the alt-history band will have to go by some other name. ... *reads diplomatic map* ... Time to seize Thrace! We have to occupy as much as possible of the Black sea coast before the Greeks and Russians! Also, what does the Monarchies having 14% army and the Revolutionaries having 114% mean? Readingaccount fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Jun 15, 2013 |
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Jun 15, 2013 17:16
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AtomikKrab posted:Let the russian dogs bleed themselves dry against the monarchs of europe, they stole our AZERIS. Exactly, death to the Russki oppressor! I hope we get some kind of revolution in Vicky 2. I don't care what kind, fascist, communist, whatever the hell, as long as it frees us from puppethood and puts us in a position to backstab Greece and Russia the instant they're weak enough to take back the land our brave Azerbaijani lads bled for.
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Jun 15, 2013 17:22
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Readingaccount posted:Jahan Jahan? Guess the alt-history band will have to go by some other name. That's land dominance (and the ship is naval dominance).
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Jun 15, 2013 17:22
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Well, on the plus side, at least our security issues are largely over as long as we suck up enough to the Russians. Having an enormous, technologically-advanced superpower on our side will be really, really handy. Of course, if the Russians manage to get beaten, we've pretty much got the worst of both worlds coming up. Stripped of land by the Russians, stripped of land by the coalition, and generally turned into a cake for everyone to carve up as they please and humiliated by both sides of the war in the end.
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Jun 15, 2013 17:24
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:Exactly, death to the Russki oppressor! I hope we get some kind of revolution in Vicky 2. I don't care what kind, fascist, communist, whatever the hell, as long as it frees us from puppethood and puts us in a position to backstab Greece and Russia the instant they're weak enough to take back the land our brave Azerbaijani lads bled for. We'll probably be in Russia's SOI, not a satellite. Either way becoming a GP breaks it.(This is why forming the SGF as Austria is stupid)
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Jun 15, 2013 17:24
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Wiza, can you please fix Italy's eastern conquests? It's pretty dumb that instead of grabbing the Dalmatian coast they'd go for a weird penis-like appendage that splits Croatia in two right through ( ).
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Jun 15, 2013 17:28
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Tomn posted:Well, on the plus side, at least our security issues are largely over as long as we suck up enough to the Russians. Having an enormous, technologically-advanced superpower on our side will be really, really handy. I don't know, with Tunga alive and in exile, the reactionary coalition winning could work out well for us. They may end up being opportunistic assholes, but at the same time they know our new allegiance was forced on us, and I could see them reinstalling Tunga as king and giving us back the lands we lost and maybe then some, to keep us happy with them and as a bulwark against the newly-weakened Russia. Go, Italy, go!  theblastizard posted:We'll probably be in Russia's SOI, not a satellite. Yesssssss.
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NihilCredo posted:Wiza, can you please fix Italy's eastern conquests? It's pretty dumb that instead of grabbing the Dalmatian coast they'd go for a weird penis-like appendage that splits Croatia in two right through ( Kainser fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jun 15, 2013 |
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