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Yes! Let's industrialize, build a modern navy and unify the middle east under...oh gently caress, we're going to start world war 1, aren't we?
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Patter Song posted:We won't be getting a drop of oil out of it until the last 30-25 years of the game, but if we already have a large industrial sector, oil's one of the two raw materials that would let us be one of the big sources of heavy industrial goods at the end (cars, tanks, planes, and the like). The other is rubber, and I don't know if we have much of that. Aww. We are going to be poor for a long time, huh?
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The age of photography has yet to fully dawn even in the enlightened Anatolian Republic but here is a fine site of images that may be of use in future posts. http://mideastimage.com/  For maximum tolerance! Those are (our) Kurdish Jews. Octomon fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Dec 29, 2013 |
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 Chapter 9: Progress (1870 - 1880) Mughalistan attacks the weakened Persians in autumn of 1870, easily defeating the Persian army and seizing the Persian Afghan territories.   Hedjaz also seizes the opportunity to retake the territory they lost to Persia decades ago.  Russia, concerned about the dismantling of the Persian state and the growing strength of Anatolia and the Mughals, decides to forestall any further aggression by forming an alliance with Persia.  The next few years are mostly quiet. New industry continues to spring up in the eastern provinces and brings with it an increase in socialist agitation.     A minor crisis breaks out in 1878 as Great Britain and Germany clash over the rights to colonize Micronesia, but the dispute is quickly resolved in Britain's favor without going to war.   Elections   Technologies Researched           Extensive State of the World coming next.
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Italy won the Scramble for Africa, clearly.
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Oh poo poo, The Kingdom of America just took a chunk out of the Cherokee Monarchy.
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Patter Song posted:Italy won the Scramble for Africa, clearly. 7.22 infamy for all of that  I find it a little funny that after decades of shutting the entire Balkans out of the Adriatic through a paper-thin strip of coastline possessions, they're now shut down from their half of Africa by a paper-thin strip of Libya. Though I guess being cut off from the nominally-held Sahara isn't quite the same.
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Oh poo poo, The Kingdom of America just took a chunk out of the Cherokee Monarchy.
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It's a good thing that Persia is full of uncivilized savages who can't spell "Revanchism" or this whole thing we started could become an issue somewhere down the line. Also, I'm surprised at how liberal we're getting, but then again I suppose that's expected with Wealth franchise. Can't wait for some laissez-faire government to be elected and see our entire industry dismantled and sold for scrap for the greater glory of the free market!
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That Scramble seems fudged somehow. No way Burgundy and Spain wouldn't try and take something as well in regular V2.
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TheMcD posted:That Scramble seems fudged somehow. No way Burgundy and Spain wouldn't try and take something as well in regular V2. It has to do with Wiz's map. The only unoccupied bits of coastline left were that little bit in Cameroon and the stretch around Namibia. Italy hit those first and everyone else was locked out. Presumably everyone else is locked in heated debates about Senegal. EDIT: I assume there's also probably quite the loggerheads between Italy and Britain over that last bit of east Africa. If Italy can grab it, it can keep British East Africa cut in two. Patter Song fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Dec 30, 2013 |
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Dec 30, 2013 00:06
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Italy won colonialism generally, I'm surprised they aren't doing better overall.
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Yeah, I'm not super keen on how Africa turned out. But it might turn out interesting down the line in a great war situation.
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Wait so how has Japan been in charge of Taiwan?
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Patter Song posted:It has to do with Wiz's map. The only unoccupied bits of coastline left were that little bit in Cameroon and the stretch around Namibia. Italy hit those first and everyone else was locked out. Presumably everyone else is locked in heated debates about Senegal. There's a CB that was supposed to let others compete, but it broke. In retrospect I should probably have left more coast open, though.
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Snipee posted:Wait so how has Japan been in charge of Taiwan?
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Oh god did Portugal nab some of Algeria? It looks so ugly.
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Ha, that crisis over Micronesia. I remember once I played a game where a Great War started over the rights to colonise Micronesia. It was one of the stupidest things I've ever experienced in V2.
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When does the AI tend to start releasing dominions? Because Italian Brazil really ought to become a South American Canada any day now.ManicMarine posted:Ha, that crisis over Micronesia. I remember once I played a game where a Great War started over the rights to colonise Micronesia. It was one of the stupidest things I've ever experienced in V2.
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The 100th year anniversary is coming up too.  Anyways, I can't wait to hear more about Asia and America. Europe is definitely the center of the world right now, but we have interesting developments elsewhere too.
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Chapter 10: The World of 1880 Anatolia in 1880 is a rising nation: Dynamic, forward-looking and expansionitic. Its universities offer modern educations in science and the humanities, railroads connect all but the most remote of its states, and factories churn out goods for its increasing urban population. The Anatolian army is the pride of the nation, and the rest of the Middle East regards the Anatolian modernization with envy and fear.   Egypt and Persia, all too aware of the consequenses of political backwardsness after testing their armies against Anatolian ones, have launched their own rapid modernization programmes with the aid of Russian and Italian advisors.   In Europe, the last decades have mostly been uneventful, with intermittent diplomatical crisises but no real wars of note, though another crisis appears to be brewing in the Lithuanian parts of the Baltic Republic.   Russia has risen once again to uncontested first place among the Great Powers, with both the greatest army and the largest industrial base in the world.  Burgundy and Germany continue to follow just behind Russia, both powers appearing to be focused on continental politics, though the Germans have launched a few, largely unsuccessful, colonization efforts.   Italy and Great Britain are currently engaged in dividing up Africa between them. Britain remains a great industrial power but its failed diplomatic challenges to Russia have caused its star to fall greatly, while Italy has been steadily regaining lost ground in prestige, industry and military over the last two decades.   Bavaria and Sweden remain second-rate Great Powers, unable to compete industrially with the more populous nations but retaining their rankings through diplomatic manuevering and military prowess.   North America has seen radical change with the formation of the Kingdom of America, and its subsquent political domination over Borealia and the Cherokee Confederation.   The Kingdom is also stretching its muscles in South America, intervening in a Peruvian war of conquest against Colombia and appearing to be turning the tide of the war in Colombia's favor.  In Africa, new technologies and ways of thinking have led to a European push for colonies in Africa - a push that Italy is winning handily thanks to its previously held coastal colonies   Asia has seen a number of wars of conquest, with Mughalistan, Italy and Pegu expanding at the expense of their neighbours.  The Zhen are engaged in a modernization effort, attempting to reform their army and bureaucracy after Western models. So far their successes have been limited, but the prospect of a modernized China is one that could have a fundamental effects on world politics.  The reactionary, isolationist dictatorship in Japan has ended in a bloodless revolution and the restoration of Japanese Democracy.  Politics & Population    Economy    Technology      Diplomacy   Military  National Rankings  National Comparisons  National Politics    
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Ofaloaf posted:When does the AI tend to start releasing dominions? Because Italian Brazil really ought to become a South American Canada any day now. The AI releases dominions when it desperately needs colonial points. So at this point there isn't much chance of it unless someone manages to get a significant portion of their fleet sunk or their naval bases dismantled.
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Zhen is going to try to modernise? Oh gods. The Islamic dragon rises. ...Mind you, would an increased liberalism be bad for them? What with them probably being a minority ruled nation like us.
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Long live Jan Mayen and its amazing social programmes 
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So if Zhen westernizes how badly would the world economy be boned?
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Jan Mayen is the best country too bad it doesn't actually exist on the map.
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The Saurus posted:Jan Mayen is the best country too bad it doesn't actually exist on the map. That is because it exists in our hearts.
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The Saurus posted:Jan Mayen is the best country too bad it doesn't actually exist on the map. Nah it's there. It's avoiding labels because if people knew it existed they would all want to move there.
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Jeoh posted:Long live Jan Mayen and its amazing social programmes Those 47 men and women shall lead the world to a golden age!
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Democratic Japan  Also, eh, at least Germany's colonising Madagascar. Honestly, given that in reality colonisation of Africa was a massive enterprise that really only two or three countries did in earnest, Africa being split between Italy and Britain isn't that out there. As long as some of the other GPs nab a few provinces from the African countries and Italy annexes Tripoli and coastal mali to avoid those godawful borders its fairly normal. Re: Micronesian Great Wars, I always thought that the Great Wars as represented by Victoria are actually starting over a whole bunch of reasons, similar to our WW1, and that the crisis is just the spark that starts the fire.
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For whatever reason having the Kingdom of America be a repressive absolute monarchy is really entertaining to me. I also like how both this and Hohenzollern had authoritarian Americans.
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It's 1880 and slavery is still legal in Cherokee and Colombia. I wonder if the institution will end peacefully or bloodily in those countries.
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Pakled posted:It's 1880 and slavery is still legal in Cherokee and Colombia. I wonder if the institution will end peacefully or bloodily in those countries. Who says it's going to end?
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Pakled posted:It's 1880 and slavery is still legal in Cherokee and Colombia. I wonder if the institution will end peacefully or bloodily in those countries. Perhaps we should lead the charge. Spreading this most basic tenet of civilization to Egypt.
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~70 years after the Russian Revolution, you'd already be hard-pressed to spot the old "monarchist" vs. "revolutionary" blocs in Europe. The West may have figurehead kings while the East has presidents, but in terms of social and political reforms neither side is noticeably more 'progressive' than the other. I guess there's a lesson there. Other random thoughts: - What the heck is Russia doing with 117 ships and no colonies? Going to go all Operation Overlord in the next war? - Italy's literacy is at 50% despite the fact that probably some two-thirds of its 120M people are outside Europe. Nice. - North America is really underpopulated. The real-life USA had 50M people in 1880, and Canada had 4M; in this timeline you have 15M people in the KoA, 5M in Cherokee, 3M in Borealia, and Mexico has a total of less than 12M of which I'd guess no more than four or five millions in the northern parts. I'm not sure why this would be the case. - Is there a tech levels comparison screen in the ledger?
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NihilCredo posted:- Italy's literacy is at 50% despite the fact that probably some two-thirds of its 120M people are outside Europe. Nice. Literacy Rating doesn't count colonies, only full states, so they are not necessarily bringing high education to the world.
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Worth pointing out that while Jeff Davis ended the horrors of slavery in the American Kingdom, they still continue on in Cherokee. Maybe the only way to bring about Emancipation is a conquest of the Cherokee? EDIT: Apparently the Cherokee are one of only two countries in the world (along with Korea) to be ruled by a Reactionary party. Patter Song fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Dec 30, 2013 |
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Patter Song posted:Worth pointing out that while Jeff Davis ended the horrors of slavery in the American Kingdom, they still continue on in Cherokee. Maybe the only way to bring about Emancipation is a conquest of the Cherokee? Slavery was abolished before Davis.
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It also seems the Kadet dictatorship in Russia fell apart at some point. Wonder what happened there.
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