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Wiz posted:In short: Tolerance won. Was this ever truly in doubt?
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Isn't being all this tolerant and democratic bringing in lots of immigrants?
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Jan 3, 2014 13:29
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What countries are people emigrating to, per chance?
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Jan 3, 2014 13:31
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Camoes posted:Isn't being all this tolerant and democratic bringing in lots of immigrants? I remember V2 heavily skewing immigration towards New World nations; so much that even the most liberal Old World nation is better off conquering territory or raising birth rates to boost pops. Did HoD add any new stuff that makes this a reasonable tactic?
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Jan 3, 2014 13:35
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Veryslightlymad posted:What countries are people emigrating to, per chance? America seems to finally be getting some migration. Mexico and Borealia are getting their fair share too.
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Jan 3, 2014 13:38
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Well, if I lived in this alternate history scenario and was looking to move I sure as hell wouldn't want to migrate to Anatolia. What with their "everyone gets slaughtered by angry Russians" policy.
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Jan 3, 2014 13:38
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Fun fact: Only four countries in the world have Women's Suffrage as of 1900: Anatolia, Luxemburg, Switzerland and Bohemia.
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Jan 3, 2014 13:40
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Zhen  Greece Our pretty borders So, which sphere is Greece in?
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Jan 3, 2014 13:41
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Pimpmust posted:Zhen Italian.
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Jan 3, 2014 13:41
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Russia will always find a way to gently caress us  (Just noticed that Industry score, 1700+  )
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Jan 3, 2014 13:43
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Drone posted:also, for those saying we've never had a fascist LP, remember that during the Hearts of Iron years of the Hohenzollern LP, Germany was a paternal autocracy. I meant that I've never seen an LP where facists take control of government in V2.
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Jan 3, 2014 13:54
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It might be sad what happened to Zhen but I just want to say it's good that something nice finally happened to Poland. They've been messed around since before the Revolutionary Wars (Remember those? When there was some kind of clear ideological divide between East and West?) and now they got Silesia back. It's cute. On a similar not I'm surprised the Russian populace isn't more militant.
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Jan 3, 2014 14:43
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Are we going into HoI3 (or Darkest Hour)? I don't even know if there's a converter.
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Jan 3, 2014 14:50
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Wiz always converts his own stuff by hand but I think he said he was too lazy to go to HoI this time, it might kind of ruin the whole nice-place-to-live motif going on by having a crazy world war at the end of the LP. We should still all try to make Wiz do it though, so we can nuke Russia.
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Jan 3, 2014 15:01
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The Saurus posted:Wiz always converts his own stuff by hand but I think he said he was too lazy to go to HoI this time, it might kind of ruin the whole nice-place-to-live motif going on by having a crazy world war at the end of the LP. I'm continuing to DH since Ofaloaf is helping me with the legwork on the conversion.
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Jan 3, 2014 15:04
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 Chapter 14: The World of 1900 Anatolia in 1900 is a different nation from just twenty years past. Having been through the fire of the Great War, it has come out stronger, more prosperous and unified, its nationalist and sectarian issues quelled at long last through the socialist policies of the Vicdan government.  After their electoral defeats, the Kral party has effectively dissolved, being replaced with a splinter party that has shifted policies to the left, adopting a Full Citizenship policy in the hopes of gaining voters from the liberals. Additionally, the Communist Beraberlik (Equality) party has formed and are set to participate in the next elections.  Persia, too, is thriving in the Anatolian sphere, having retaken the territory lost to Hedjaz and the Mughals and launched a national industrialization project to bring their nation into the modern world.  Greece now controls both sides of the Bosporus, laying claims to be the revival of the Byzantine Empire, though such claims are not taken very seriously in this modern day and age.  Russia has fully recovered from the Great War, seeming stronger than ever, and having traded its Italian alliance for a German one as insurance against further Western interventions.  Burgundy too, continues to grow in strength and prosperity, maintaining its standing as the greatest of the Western monarchies.  Great Britain's victory in the Great War has restored its prestige and standing among the Great Powers, and it continues to be an interventionist state with a powerful army and navy.  Germany is the cultural heart of Europe, a liberal democracy full of universities, academies and great thinkers, though its relatively small population means that it continues to lag behind Burgundy and Britain industrially.  Expanionistic, reactionary and hungry for revanche, Italy seems to be the way to catching up to Germany industrially, but its army remains second-rate.  After a century of misfortune, Poland seems to finally be recovering some of its past glory, making use of the coal and iron mines in Silesia to industrialize and build up a modern democracy.  The Baltic Republic, meanwhile, has declined into neo-feudalism, with an absolute dictator ruling over an agrarian and impoverished population.  The Great War resulted in a great many immigrants from Bavaria, Anatolia and the Balkans flowing into the Kingdom of America, which has been rapidly building up its industries and building up progressive social institutions, though it remains an absolute monarchy.  Japan, too, has seen rapid industrialization, rising to the status of Great Power and on the verge of passing Anatolia in standing.  The Zhen Empire has split in two, owing to a massive reactionary backlash in the Confucian and Buddhist south against the modernization carried out by the Islamic northern regime. With the backing of Russia and Germany, the separatist government in the south has gained independence, forming a new Song Dynasty based on Confucian ideals.   Politics & Population    Economy  Technology      Diplomacy   Military  National Rankings  National Comparisons  National Politics     
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Jan 3, 2014 15:05
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Wiz posted:Vicdan aren't gonna start any wars of conquest. They're anti-military, and the Shura vote really has ceased to have any relevance at this point since the people are now in charge. I'm just going to have to retire to a life of writing op-eds in the Tabriz Post about what a Smyrnan taxi driver thinks we should be doing about the Constantinople question and talking about how the Suez Canal has made the world flat. I am so, so happy about the aftermath of the Great War. That was probably as good as we possibly could have hoped for. We tolerated the poo poo out of everyone, and it worked! Getting woman's suffrage in 1898 puts us ahead of every OTL nation except New Zealand, in most cases by several decades. We are the true beacon of democracy and liberty in this world. All hail the Anatolian Republic!
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Jan 3, 2014 15:10
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Mexico is a Democracy ruled by the Fascist party now? Huh. That is one ugly flag for southern China.
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Jan 3, 2014 15:26
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i81icu812 posted:Mexico is a Democracy ruled by the Fascist party now? Huh. That's... got to be a bug. Fascist parties aren't even supposed to be enabled yet.
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Jan 3, 2014 15:28
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Is Cyrenaica in someone's sphere? Because Italy needs to gobble that up, right now.
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Jan 3, 2014 15:29
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Wow, look at the social reforms on Germany.
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Jan 3, 2014 15:30
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paragon1 posted:Wow, look at the social reforms on Germany. And yet they have outlawed trade unions. Scott Walker was right!
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Pakled posted:Is Cyrenaica in someone's sphere? Because Italy needs to gobble that up, right now. It's a puppet of Egypt.
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Jan 3, 2014 15:31
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Where is Jan Mayen, and how can I get there?
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Hah! That conservative party is probably roughly equivalent to the modern American Democratic party in ideology on those issues. Except the Democrats are more open to free trade. I wonder who the Anatolian David Cameron is, trying to convince people that no, the old Kral is nothing like the new Edalet. Tabriz Times, "All the News that's Fit to Print" OP-ED, January 23, 1900 By Ibrahim Melamed I was returning from a conference in Great Britain on the proper use of military force to bring civilization to less advantaged nations via Tabriz by way of Smyrna when my livery driver, Georgios Papadopoulos, noted the difficulties of working a fourteen hour day. He was quite right, how can one enjoy the finer things of our civilization when stuck behind a horse's rump ferrying people about the busy cities of our nation? Georgios said that he would like to work less, but cannot do so due to the high demand for jobs in this thriving port city. When I spoke to Osman Allahyarov, Whip for the Vicdan Party, at a salon upon returning to Tabriz, he noted quite rightly that such hours weaken a man's soul. They cannot build themselves intellectually, spiritually, or take time with their families working more than half of each day, or if they do so they must surely neglect other areas of their life. As there is always someone desperate enough to take a job for the maximum allowable hours, stolid Ibrahim would be best served by a reduction of the working day to ten hours. This would still make hard work the largest part of any good Anatolian's life, but would also allow them to devote proper time to their families and faith, as well as develop themselves intellectually. Now that the Suez canal has made the world flat, we cannot let our citizens lives be mentally and spiritually impoverished if we do not want to impoverish Anatolia itself. eta: My Anatolian Thomas Friedman also believes that we should have secret ballots. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Jan 3, 2014 |
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Jan 3, 2014 15:48
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paragon1 posted:Where is Jan Mayen, and how can I get there? Sail t'ward the setting sun for forty days and forty nights ...
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Jan 3, 2014 15:50
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Wiz posted:
Ia! Ia! Tolerance fhtagn!
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Jan 3, 2014 15:52
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paragon1 posted:Where is Jan Mayen, and how can I get there? It's the thing that looks like a turqoise micro-penis northeast of Iceland.
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Jan 3, 2014 15:56
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Wiz posted:If we become a monarchy or fascist dictatorship we go back to being Azerbaijan.  e; oh wait there were more updates
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Jan 3, 2014 15:57
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Man, Samiland is the weirdest place. It feels like it only exists because nobody can be bothered to actually go up there and conquer a bunch of ice and trees.
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Jan 3, 2014 16:07
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Wiz posted:It's a puppet of Egypt. Oh, in that case, Italy needs to give up its shameful Western imperialism and allow the Cyrenaican people the freedom of self-determination, under the guiding influence of their enlightened Egyptian neighbors.
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Jan 3, 2014 16:10
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Tomn posted:Man, Samiland is the weirdest place. It feels like it only exists because nobody can be bothered to actually go up there and conquer a bunch of ice and trees. I've met Sami ... nationalists probably isn't quite the right word but close enough. I wouldn't want to fight them.
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Wiz posted:Vicdan aren't gonna start any wars of conquest. They're anti-military, and the Shura vote really has ceased to have any relevance at this point since the people are now in charge. Makes sense of course, especially with the rush towards toleration due to the war exhaustion and militancy. I was just hoping against hope that AB for toleration meant we had a little influence left. *sigh* If only we had gone ABC or ABB. At this rate we'll be lucky to get any wars of conquest or military preperation in before HoD, that'll be our last major hope for expansion. At least we got lucky and stayed intact. Hmm, I see the Revolutionary Wars in Germany had the similar effect of leading to a smaller population. Just good for them they lost quickly rather than over a longer timeframe and they weren't hurt by an economic war as well. Readingaccount fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jan 3, 2014 |
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Jan 3, 2014 16:15
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Italian Brazil is making me go  . Is there an event or decision Italy gets to release it as a dominion if a local independence revolt never happens?
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Jan 3, 2014 16:20
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Feels like Italy should be a wee bit overstretched on the colonial front, what with having to keep a strong land army in Europe on top of not being as strong as OTL GB while there's plenty of other European powers no doubt looking to take a bit out of that juicy empire. Strangely the AI seems to ignore Italy's colonies.
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Jan 3, 2014 16:22
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Tomn posted:Man, Samiland is the weirdest place. It feels like it only exists because nobody can be bothered to actually go up there and conquer a bunch of ice and trees. It's a puppet of Sweden, so it's autonomous rather than independent. The answer to "why is that weird state there" is usually that it's a satellite, since satellites stay around forever in V2.
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Jan 3, 2014 16:22
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Drone posted:Italian Brazil is making me go I'm going to make an event to release it as a dominion. Should've done so earlier really.
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But, but, what about the holy grail of imperialism? Staying united, even if decentralization is needed, as a metropolitan state and transcending nationalism?
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Jan 3, 2014 16:27
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Wiz posted:I'm going to make an event to release it as a dominion. Should've done so earlier really. There's historical precedent for them being late to the game on it, I guess. Australia and New Zealand weren't made dominions until after 1900.
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Speaking of Australia, maybe Spain should get an event to make it a dominion as well considering they still control it.
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