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Luisfe
Aug 17, 2005

Hee-lo-ho!

Well, what can I say? It is time to start this one.




What is Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey? Well, it is the last mainline SMT title, it is also a pretty drat good dungeon crawler for the DS. It does not really follow any plot points from the previous entries in the series (and all things considered, neither did Nocturne, really).

Still, it is the latest, it is one of the few SMT titles that DON'T take place in Japan, and, well, we'll see.

Table of Contents

Update 1: Plotdumps!
Update 2: Meeting the Demonica
Update 3: Activating the Demonica and such.
Update 4: Turbulence
Update 5: Near Death
Update 6: First Encounter
Update 7: Getting used to things
Update 8: Negotiation!
Update 9: Rescue Mission Time
Update 10: Explosion time
Update 11: Reaching the Blue Jet
Update 12: Arthur is back
Update 13: Scavenging
Update 14: Forma
Update 15: A possible way out.
Update 16: Underground
Update 17: Battlefield
Update 18: Fusion time!
Update 19: York fails to hit on an Angel
Update 20: Goddamn Onis
Update 21: Catching up again
Update 22: Morax
Update 24: Bootes initial exploration
Update 25: Signal!
Update 26: Norris goes nuts.
Update 27: Shenanigans.
Update 28: Pleasure Palace?
Update 29:Delays caused by Dark Souls and Robocop.
Update 30: Bad situation.
Update 31: Mitra
Update 32: Back to the ship
Update 33: The feint
Update 34: Norris found!
Update 35: Mastema
Update 36: Succesful rescue!
Update 37: Invisible visibility
Update 38 No more invisible doorman.
Update 39: Bugaboo?
Update 40: Sidequesting, and wasting time.
Update 41: Accessing Mitra's antechamber
Update 42: Hunting in the Palace
Update 43: Mitra
Update 44: Phase shift into Carina
Update 45: Toilets?
Update 46: Carina
Update 47: Meeting Mastema again
Update 48: Horkos
Update 49: What the hell is a shibboleth
Update 50: Horkos Buster
Update 51:Goddamn Horkos.
Update 52: Unlockin'
Update 53: Separation at last
Update 54: Transmission
Update 55: Horkos attacks
Update 56: Relax spray failure.
Update 57: Processing fuckup, and getting annoyed at specific spawn areas
Update 59: Carina is OVER
Update 60: Delphinus is gross
Update 61: Trash place.
Update 62: Conveyance
Update 63:Triangulation
Update 64:Possession
Update 65: Back to Bootes.
Update 66: Anthony.
Update 67: Bootes' stash
Update 68: Madman Stone
Update 69 MK Gun. Also, Not-Belmont
Update 70: Cured!
Update 71: Forgin'
Update 72: Kudlak receives his spear
Update 73:Fight with a strange thing
Update 74:Oh no, Gore.
Update 75: Delphinus Parasite
Update 76: Relapse?
Update 77: A drat dead end.
Update 78: A night light!.
Update 79: Dark belts!
Update 80: No more Rosetta signal?
Update 81: Empty
uPDATE 82: Asura
Update 83: Eridanus
Update 85: Welp, teleport
Update 86: Another darkness.
Update 87: Exploring that red darkness.
Updare 88: Wake up!
Update 89: Teleports!
Update 90: The TOP
Update 91: The trip back
Update 92: Back to Carina
Update 93: Lightning
Update 94: Captain Jack
Update 95: Avoiding going back to Eridanus
Update 96: gently caress Eridanus
Update 97: gently caress Eridanus
Update 98: gently caress Eridanus
Update 99: Reporting to Jack
Update 100: Opening ways.
Update 101: Yggdrasil again
Update 102: Ouroboros
Update 103: Ouroboros AGAIN
Update 104: Out of Eridanus
Update 105: Fornax
Update 106: Exploring Fornax
Update 107: Bosses? Plural?
Update 108: Oh no, Alice
Update 109: Mithras
Update 110: Jack's new place
Update 111: Jack's place
Update 112: Oh well it was rhetorical

Luisfe fucked around with this message at May 16, 2013 around 06:29

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Luisfe
Aug 17, 2005

Hee-lo-ho!

Actually reserving this post for cast and details.

Commander Gore:
American, leader of the mission. Apparently well liked by the crew. Pretty drat optimistic about the mission.


First Lieutenant Zelenin:
Russian. Stationed on the Elve, Science officer of some sort. Technobabble ahoy!


Main Character:
American. He is the main character. Thus, like all traditional SMT main characters, a mute.



Jimenez: Hot headed, American. Doesn't seem to care much about respect or authority, but will do what is asked of him as long as he gets paid.

Luisfe fucked around with this message at Aug 7, 2011 around 04:00

RentCavalier
Jul 10, 2008

I mean, who dreams about taking a shit with another guy?


Fuckin' hell, this game. I love it so, but it sure doesn't love me.

The_Great_Danish
Mar 26, 2010


No kidding. This game abuses it's player, and I have Stockholm syndrome for it.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

Ishida's about to make you his bitch.


Couldn't get into this game at all. Old-school JRPGs simply don't do it for me anymore. The premise of the story was great, though, so I'll be bookmarking this thread.

AnotherGamer
Jan 12, 2007
Please change my name to "The Guff Machine"

Oh good, at least someone's doing this. Tried playing it some but got tired of endless demon juggling and indecisiveness about which ones I should stick with and which ones to fuse, especially since now there's aligments thrown into the mix as well. I guess Persona is a bad starting point in that regard since there's a lot less choice overall, especially in 3 and 4. Didn't bother me as much in Devil Survivor though, probably because of easier character customization and the fact that you only need to plan out for a single battle at a time.

Not that it'd matter since I would've quit out of frustration in latter dungeons anyway based on what I've heard of them.

RentCavalier
Jul 10, 2008

I mean, who dreams about taking a shit with another guy?


I still haven't beaten it. I am at the final boss and realize I am in need of some heavy grinding or else some great strategy that eludes me. There's no loving way I'm replaying this game until I beat it the first time, but grinding is sooooo loving slow--there's no handy exp bags for me to exploit, so far as I know.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010


Ah, Strange Journey. The first game of it's kind I'd ever played (first person dungeon crawler), it sure is... something. Generally not as hard as it gets credit for, though there are some bullshit segments we have to look forward to! Game's a lot of fun and this should be fun to follow. Already can't wait to see some fusing and recruiting.

Grand Gigas
Jul 2, 2006

True heroes always show up late.


Oh, this is such a good game. I had so much fun the entire time through. I just really, really dug the Jules Verne with demons thing it had going. Awesome to see you doing this.

Docahedron
May 11, 2008


friendship is magic
in a pony paradise
don't you judge me

Love this game.

Too bad Atlus sucks and just churns out more awful date sim Persona games instead of stuff like this.

Chaosfeather
Nov 4, 2008

No spears needed


You brave soul, I love this game so much.

Will there be a chance to donate some demons/codes to you, or are you going to only make your own monsters?

meteor9
Nov 23, 2007

"That's why I put up with it."

RentCavalier posted:

I still haven't beaten it. I am at the final boss and realize I am in need of some heavy grinding or else some great strategy that eludes me. There's no loving way I'm replaying this game until I beat it the first time, but grinding is sooooo loving slow--there's no handy exp bags for me to exploit, so far as I know.

I'm in the EXACT same situation, which is really annoying considering how I never really had to grind much before that point, barring a boss or two. I'd love to finish it but I'm not about to spend hours wandering in (directionless) circles.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

You can live in the wreckage and pretend it's the mansion you remember, or you can crawl from the rubble and move on.


I am interested to see how this SMT spinoff unfolds.

(and no I do not consider it a mainline SMT title despite the OP and anyone else who finds that 'wrong')

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010


meteor9 posted:

I'm in the EXACT same situation, which is really annoying considering how I never really had to grind much before that point, barring a boss or two. I'd love to finish it but I'm not about to spend hours wandering in (directionless) circles.

You both could just cheese it with a premade demon. They'd be expensive, but if you really want to see the ending, nothing helps curb stomp an end boss like a few Jihads.

FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009



RentCavalier posted:

I still haven't beaten it. I am at the final boss and realize I am in need of some heavy grinding or else some great strategy that eludes me. There's no loving way I'm replaying this game until I beat it the first time, but grinding is sooooo loving slow--there's no handy exp bags for me to exploit, so far as I know.

Which one? There are two different final bosses. I didn't have too many problems with the one you're more likely to meet, a few retries were needed though.

Sword and Sceptre
Jan 24, 2011


I love this game and for some reason find it more accessible then nocturne. Will be following the thread in earnest.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go, that is wisdom.


I began this one just after SMT Devil Survivor (only one I have finished), but quickly lost interest in dungeon crawling. Great premise and sense of exploration, though, so I'll be following.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

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Azure_Horizon posted:

I am interested to see how this SMT spinoff unfolds.

(and no I do not consider it a mainline SMT title despite the OP and anyone else who finds that 'wrong')

There is middle ground in this debate.

Let's get one thing clear: Strange Journey was originally conceived as SMT4. So what happened?

Basically, Atlus Japan, due to the success of Atlus USA, realized that there is an international market for SMT. Thus, Kaneko changed the name and the setting away from Tokyo. The SMT games only get a number if they are set in Tokyo.

No really. That's the entire reason it's not SMT4 on the box: it's not set in Tokyo, in order to give the game more international appeal.

So, if for some reason you're one of those people who think SMT cannot be mainline because it's not set in Tokyo, then it's not SMT4. Sort of kind of, kind of like how this game was envisioned as sort of kind of SMT4.

---

...So what is my point? Less of this Persona dating sim bullshit, more of Strange Journey.

Tallgeese fucked around with this message at Aug 6, 2011 around 11:14

Niggurath
Apr 7, 2009

You know what this is?

It's me rubbing the world's smallest set of testicles.


So ummmmm where's the update?

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

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The OP was most likely just a placeholder for now.

Why Luisfe did not just wait until he had some content, I have no idea.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011


Yes! I love this game so much, even though the dungeons can be painful.
Also I love both mainline SMTs and Persona games.

Materant
Jul 22, 2010

see, what you don't understand is he now has

THE MANLIEST MUSTACHE

it defies physics


I've been playing this game for over a year now. I still haven't beaten it.

Looking forward to the LP.

TKMobile
Apr 30, 2009


Ditto to looking forward to this. I got to around level 40 something or so the first time I played before the sidequests and backtracking overwhelmed me, but I still had a lot of fun.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

Making the world a better place, one ordeal at a time.

RentCavalier posted:

I still haven't beaten it. I am at the final boss and realize I am in need of some heavy grinding or else some great strategy that eludes me. There's no loving way I'm replaying this game until I beat it the first time, but grinding is sooooo loving slow--there's no handy exp bags for me to exploit, so far as I know.

Enemy Search in Sector H works pretty well actually if you're feeling weak. There are blips that spawn in the general vicinity of the last boss.

The real trick to the last boss is to not be shy about using items and things like that.

This is the best game by the way, and Law is the best path. You're free to disagree if you'd like to be wrong but this time the Law people in the story just kinda own.

Tallgeese posted:

...So what is my point? Less of this Persona dating sim bullshit, more of Strange Journey.

It certainly would be nice if the next Persona game was a hybrid of what was great about the recent entries' gameplay but back to being a bit more like the earlier entries.

Feinne fucked around with this message at Aug 6, 2011 around 14:58

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

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Feinne posted:

This is the best game by the way, and Law is the best path. You're free to disagree if you'd like to be wrong but this time the Law people in the story just kinda own.

It's true. A bunch of people do not like the Law ending, but their objections are pretty short-sighted and fail to consider it in an objective manner.

Plus the head Law guy is just awesome all the time (except in the Chaos path where they ruin his character in two sentences, but we can safely ignore that bit of bullshit). The Chaos guys are steadfast but simply not well-developed, and the Neutral started cool but gets really stupid really fast after a certain point, regardless of path.

Tallgeese fucked around with this message at Aug 6, 2011 around 15:16

bewilderment
Nov 22, 2007
man what

Tallgeese posted:

It's true. A bunch of people do not like the Law ending, but their objections are pretty short-sighted and fail to consider it in an objective manner.

Plus the head Law guy is just awesome [/spoiler](except in the Chaos path where they ruin his character in two sentences, but we can safely ignore that bit of bullshit)[/spoiler]. The Chaos guys are steadfast but simply not well-developed, and the Neutral started cool but gets really stupid really fast after a certain point, regardless of path.

Considering your avatar and custom title, some people might consider this opinion suspect.

bewilderment fucked around with this message at Aug 7, 2011 around 01:46

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

No EXP received.

bewilderment posted:

Considering your avatar and custom title, some people might consider this opinion suspect.

He got it for arguing this exact same thing in a different SMT thread, I've heard.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

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Well, those people would be wrong, but hey, what can I do?

I would have provided a laundry list of reasoning to back the opinion, but I am trying not to spoil the game. If you want me to I will gladly oblige and show why exactly Law is superior in this game. Keep in mind that I am mainly referring to this game, Law is pretty badly presented in 2. The presentation in SJ is much improved, barring certain wrinkles once you hit endgame.

Also, please edit the quote to cover the spoiler.

alcharagia
Apr 23, 2008

What.
Did you say.
To that horse.

Oh hey this game. I like this game. Sometimes it's just bullcrap unfun and unfair, but other than that it's pretty enjoyable.

On the topic of alignment chat, I've never really given that much thought to the alignments in this series, it's usually a question of who I like best. And I've never really liked the Law characters in this game. Or the Chaos characters. But Neutral has Anthony, who is totally rad.

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

Gentlemen, welcome to SA.

Now vote this thread 5, or pay the price of insubordination!


I think this is probably my least-favourite game in the Megaten canon (bar IMAGINE). Which still puts it ahead of most other games out there. I think I stopped playing mainly because I hate grinding for enemy drops to make items and weapons. Any game that has that eventually ends up trying my patience before long. Which probably explains why I hate MMOs now that I think about it.

Feinne posted:

It certainly would be nice if the next Persona game was a hybrid of what was great about the recent entries' gameplay but back to being a bit more like the earlier entries.

I just wish Shoji Meguro would get back to the outstanding soundtracks we heard in Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga. I liked some of the stuff from P3&4, but on the whole, I loved the earlier games' OSTs. There's some great stuff in P3&4, like Backside Of The TV or The Snow Queen, but the J-Pop gets a little wearing after a while, y'know?

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

He got it for arguing this exact same thing in a different SMT thread, I've heard.

Or every SMT thread. Ever.

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Pickle: Inspected.


Tallgeese posted:

Well, those people would be wrong, but hey, what can I do?

I would have provided a laundry list of reasoning to back the opinion, but I am trying not to spoil the game. If you want me to I will gladly oblige and show why exactly Law is superior in this game. Keep in mind that I am mainly referring to this game, Law is pretty badly presented in 2. The presentation in SJ is much improved, barring certain wrinkles once you hit endgame.

Also, please edit the quote to cover the spoiler.

Seriously? When I played this Law came off...better than it has in previous SMT games, but it still doesn't come off good.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

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alcharagia posted:

But Neutral has Anthony, who is totally rad.

...That guy isn't Neutral aligned, he is "Whatever Gets Me Laid" aligned.

When my girlfriend and I were playing this game we were calling that guy "the omega goon", so it's no surprise you fellas like him.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011

I'd rather kiss a Waffleman_!


Isaac Clarke Fights The Demons.

This is only the fourth M-rated DS title I know of, and that's really interesting to me for some reason.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

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Slime posted:

Seriously? When I played this Law came off...better than it has in previous SMT games, but it still doesn't come off good.

This is simply a flaw in your perspective, colored as it is from past SMT games.

Objectively, given that happiness is the result of a chemical produced by the brain, the Law ending is the happiest ending.

Luisfe
Aug 17, 2005

Hee-lo-ho!

Tallgeese posted:

The OP was most likely just a placeholder for now.

Why Luisfe did not just wait until he had some content, I have no idea.

I had the update. But I also required sleep. Update to be posted VERY soon. Sorry for the delay.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Eat it, Nature!

I've heard things about this game. Brutal things. This is gonna be a fun ride.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

Making the world a better place, one ordeal at a time.

Tallgeese posted:

This is simply a flaw in your perspective, colored as it is from past SMT games.

Objectively, given that happiness is the result of a chemical produced by the brain, the Law ending is the happiest ending.

It's also clearly the best possible outcome given knowledge of the potential results of the dilemma in question.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

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Feinne posted:

It's also clearly the best possible outcome given knowledge of the potential results of the dilemma in question.

This is true. The Chaos ending at least GOES somewhere, whereas Neutral is essentially "back to status quo, PS this will happen again so you accomplished nothing".

Agnostic watermelon
Jul 1, 2009

I'm a lil' Brony!

I love this, even if some of the dungeons just got plain annoying to advance through.

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Strange Matter
Oct 5, 2009

Ask me about Genocide


I bought this game and got to...Sector E I think before its grindiness got the best of me and I gave up. I just don't have the mindset to play pure dungeon crawlers like that. Still, it's a great concept for a game and I'm interested in seeing its completion.

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