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Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002



One and the Same posted:

Meh. I can deal with that. I hope premium doesn't end up actually being $16 stateside, that might a be a bit much for an american audience to swallow.

I'm ok with cash stores, but I really dislike it when they lock away features which very noticeably make it feel like an incomplete game.

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One and the Same
Jan 19, 2008

******************!!!!!

It's harder to complain when the base game is also free. I was planning on spending some money on this game anyway.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


If they included some really overpriced one-time "lifetime" payment plan I'd be stupid enough to shill out for it. Like if this game is something I'll be playing for ages like PSO1 then I wouldn't mind.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
"It has gunfights and shit!"

MR. J posted:

You can't drop trade. Dropping items just means discarding it.

Fuckballs, I forgot they downgraded since PSO1. Oh well, I'll just tell myself I'm playing the "pure" experience by not trading anything. I wouldn't have minded dropping some bills here and there but I'm not going over $10 to trade items.

Ryanbomber
Sep 27, 2004



Paying for trading is already dumb, removing the obvious option for "whoops I picked up this gun as a force, you should take it" is retarded. Is there at least mailing items or whatever?

I really hope hell gets raised and the prices become a little more sane. If I'm paying $7 for something like player housing I want to get it forever, not for a month.

Millions
Sep 13, 2007

Time may change me
But I can't trace time


I thought items were instanced?

Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002



One and the Same posted:

It's harder to complain when the base game is also free. I was planning on spending some money on this game anyway.

I'd agree with this except that I consider features like trading to be a part of the "base". At most, I would be willing to make a one time payment to unlock the feature.

Schubalts
Nov 25, 2007

A beast to kill a beast...


Millions posted:

I thought items were instanced?

They are, every item you see is only visible to you.

Ryanbomber
Sep 27, 2004



Schubalts posted:

They are, every item you see is only visible to you.

Oh, are they? That stops mistakes or "mistakes", but will still suck if you have a dedicated group of 4 and the Ranger gets yet another rare sword or whatever.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting


Policenaut posted:

If they included some really overpriced one-time "lifetime" payment plan I'd be stupid enough to shill out for it. Like if this game is something I'll be playing for ages like PSO1 then I wouldn't mind.

I would say that as well having put thousands of hours into it but with the release of D3 I've found I lack the grinding dedication. D2 and PSO were my games back then and I just don't have the same dedication I did 12 years ago.

MR. J
Nov 22, 2011

Chuck and Fuck


Ryanbomber posted:

Oh, are they? That stops mistakes or "mistakes", but will still suck if you have a dedicated group of 4 and the Ranger gets yet another rare sword or whatever.
He could always just bank it for later since you can switch between hunter, ranger, and force at any time.

Surprise Noodle
Aug 25, 2011


Keep in mind that you do not have to purchase shop access in order to buy from player shops, only to sell your own items on the market.

VVVVVV - Yeah, it remains to be seen if that holds true for PSO2, but it likely will, depending on how severe that whole "certain very rare items cannot be sold on the player market period" things ends up being.

Surprise Noodle fucked around with this message at Jun 9, 2012 around 10:09

Buried alive
Jun 8, 2009


^^^^Given how in-game markets and trading can work, sometimes the only way to afford anything considered "decent" is to play on the market itself.

Anderron Shi
Jan 20, 2012

Frank the Fox


drat, the pre-open beta is only available from 6AM-11AM EST.

Handgun Harlot
Jan 26, 2003

Pew Pew Q


Anderron Shi posted:

drat, the pre-open beta is only available from 6AM-11AM EST.

It's just a server stress test, you won't really have the chance to play much and it isn't the point anyway.

Open Beta is supposed to start in a couple weeks.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of fifty years
is nothing in comparison
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


flyboi posted:

I would say that as well having put thousands of hours into it but with the release of D3 I've found I lack the grinding dedication. D2 and PSO were my games back then and I just don't have the same dedication I did 12 years ago.

Well it's not so much "oh man I'm gonna play this all day every day" grinding, it's more like having the option would sort of make it easier to come back if you put the game down.

It might get kind of discouraging to return to the game off and on to remember that certain features you enjoy are subscription-based and just decide to wait on playing it until later or something. It's be discouraging for me at least to go a few months, pick it up again, and realize a ton of cool stuff I enjoyed was subscription and maybe I don't have the spare cash to resub. If there was just an optional flat "give us all your money you stupid idiot" one-time payment plan then I could just pick the game up and drop it at convenience.

Anderron Shi
Jan 20, 2012

Frank the Fox


So are all of you goons planning on playing on Ship 2 Block 20?

Handgun Harlot
Jan 26, 2003

Pew Pew Q


I sure ain't, that's where all those 4chan kids are going.

just a butt
Jan 1, 2010

Hello? Is anyone there?


No.

Justice posted:

I sure ain't, that's where all those 4chan kids are going.

Naw 4chan commandeered 4/4 during closed beta. Dunno if people are planning on continuing the same trend for open beta.

One and the Same
Jan 19, 2008

******************!!!!!

I'll go to 2 20 until a less horrible block is settled upon. I'm probably just going to play with some close friends and try to ignore the 'community' until launch day.

Handgun Harlot
Jan 26, 2003

Pew Pew Q


just a butt posted:

Naw 4chan commandeered 4/4 during closed beta. Dunno if people are planning on continuing the same trend for open beta.

I didn't play the closed beta at all, but people in our channel were saying there were people from /v (a 4chan thing) in 2/20.

I hope they ban all outside IPs, or only accept domestic cards for the Arkz shop items (which would probably be worse).

Diopside
Nov 2, 2011


Justice posted:

I didn't play the closed beta at all, but people in our channel were saying there were people from /v (a 4chan thing) in 2/20.

Ship 2, block 20 was Reddit, PSOW, Neogaf and a bunch of other communities if I recall.

I can confirm that /v/ and /vg/ were on ship 4, blocks 4 and 44, and will probably be there again in case anyone wants to avoid them.

Either ship/block combination will result in obnoxious meme spouting, however, so all it really comes down to is if you want them spewed literally or ironically.

That or we get our own block, but I'm not sure if this thread has the playerbase to support that.

Surprise Noodle
Aug 25, 2011


Justice posted:

I didn't play the closed beta at all, but people in our channel were saying there were people from /v (a 4chan thing) in 2/20.

I hope they ban all outside IPs, or only accept domestic cards for the Arkz shop items (which would probably be worse).
So you hope that no one will get to play the game, just to spite some easily-avoided obnoxious people. That's great.


Anyway, there's no need to worry about specific blocks. As long as everyone ends up on the same ship, you can go to whichever block you please and still meet up with everyone. Even if PSOW/reddit/4chan/whatever shitlords are crowding up block 20, there's only like 50 other blocks from which to choose.

Once you are in the game and have a bunch of people on your friend list and/or on your team, there's no need to even have a specific block. Just go to where your friends happen to be at the moment and ignore everyone else.



On a more positive note, leaked advertisements from certain Japanese websites (which promptly removed them) state that OBT should be starting on the 21st if everything goes well in the pre-OBT. The date might not end up being exactly accurate when all is said and done, but I think we can safely say at this point that release is going to be within a month, probably weeks (depending on how long the OBT lasts).

Surprise Noodle fucked around with this message at Jun 11, 2012 around 03:52

tooooooo bad
Jun 27, 2009

bad post bad post bad post

I for one know that when I see people saying dumb things in chat I literally lose my ability to enjoy my dumb anime video games.

MR. J
Nov 22, 2011

Chuck and Fuck


I played in ship 2 throughout the entire beta, but only hung around block 20 when none of my friends were on and I didn't feel like going solo.

tooooooo bad
Jun 27, 2009

bad post bad post bad post

By the way here are some screenshots of the snow field. It certainly looks snowy.

One and the Same
Jan 19, 2008

******************!!!!!

Those mammoths are really cool. I wonder if Dumans are going to be in the Open Beta?

vvedit: That... makes sense. That's probably why nothing has been said about them.

One and the Same fucked around with this message at Jun 11, 2012 around 04:38

Surprise Noodle
Aug 25, 2011


Dumans aren't going to be available at release. Surely they want everyone to level their characters up a reasonable amount before adding a new race that everyone will have to purchase an extra character slot to use.

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010

I NEED TO STOP ACTING LIKE A SPERGLORD BY REPORTING PEOPLE FROM THE DOTA2 THREAD FOR THE SMALLEST SHIT


Just got this email. used Google Translate on it

http://pastebin.com/DNkciUXx

Seems like june 15 and 16 the servers will be open for a bit.

Hitlersaurus Christ
Oct 14, 2005

I'm not racist. Some of my best friends are dinosaurs!


Justice posted:

I hope they ban all outside IPs, or only accept domestic cards for the Arkz shop items (which would probably be worse).

Yes, because if there's anything Sega needs right now it's less money!

But really, if someone's presence is annoying you in an online game, just ignore them. It's not that hard, especially when that game has a blacklist and a number of different lobbies to go to. Banning an entire region isn't in anyone's best interest.

RedHotKick
Feb 4, 2011

SPIDORMEN?!


If it's anything like PSU I'll run out of space on my blacklist though.

Also kinda bummed about the cash shop news, paying to trade is just a bit too much for me, especially if it's at that price.

NextTime000
Feb 3, 2011

bweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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what is a signifigant 2-digit number for goons, because we can just congregate on that block of ship-2.

just remember this thread is readable by the public

psychoticBacofoil
Jan 3, 2012

Ask me about my ETERNAL SUFFERING at the sight of the horrible things on TV these days


NextTime000 posted:

just remember this thread is readable by the public
We could always make a thread in PGS for a specific block and ship we'll all be at and discuss things like teaming up and strategies there.

just a butt
Jan 1, 2010

Hello? Is anyone there?


No.

psychoticBacofoil posted:

We could always make a thread in PGS for a specific block and ship we'll all be at and discuss things like teaming up and strategies there.

strategy: equip wired lance, suplex monkeys

congrats you win PSO2!

psychoticBacofoil
Jan 3, 2012

Ask me about my ETERNAL SUFFERING at the sight of the horrible things on TV these days


just a butt posted:

strategy: equip wired lance, suplex monkeys

congrats you win PSO2!
There are no monkeys to suplex when you're fighting the bosses. Like the emergency mission boss that giant bug thing that crawled around the arena.

Dinky Duck Race
Feb 6, 2011



psychoticBacofoil posted:

There are no monkeys to suplex when you're fighting the bosses. Like the emergency mission boss that giant bug thing that crawled around the arena.

Wait for the boss to spawn things and then throw them at the boss like Kirby.

I think if you load up the launcher you can pre-load the pre-open beta patch now.

Anderron Shi
Jan 20, 2012

Frank the Fox


A new patch is out, just start up your client and it will begin. It's pretty large.

One and the Same
Jan 19, 2008

******************!!!!!

Downloading now. Probably not going to play the prebeta though.

Anderron Shi
Jan 20, 2012

Frank the Fox


One and the Same posted:

Downloading now. Probably not going to play the prebeta though.

Yeah, I don't see myself playing it for more than an hour.

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Salsa McManus
Jul 12, 2007

Khezu Khezu Khezu Khezu Khezu Khezu Khezu Khezu

Happy I got the e-mail. Not happy my total lack of Japanese skills. Where are you guys downloading this? I need to get my anime as gently caress Mecha-Tsundere-Catgirl on ASAP.

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