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redmercer posted:So, Minecraft!
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thing here so I can't back out.
TL:DR: Red's lazy, be the first to find snow on 777 and receive 20 bux 
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PalmTreeFun posted:I just loaded the page up right now and their Youtube account is still there. Where did you get this info? He didn't say they did, he was trolling by saying they should.
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....seriously? I come back to the computer and see there's 214 unread posts on this thread and they're all about NERD DRAMA? Christ, I thought something interesting might have come up in the game that we hadn't seen before, or there was a serious bug that eats computers, or an announcement or clarification of the vague screwedness non-alpha adopters are going to get when new content rolls out... Nope. Nerds yellin' about nerds who yell at video games. gently caress. e: 219. Still, point stands. Allen Wren fucked around with this message at Nov 21, 2011 around 21:16 |
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Notch interpreting "all expenses paid" as "paid to be there", does not realize how functions or conventions work or how to behave in public, film at eleven.
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TRANT RESNER MAN posted:ahahah 20 dollars to find snow. Someone load up their fly hack. Easiest 20 bucks you'll ever make right here World pre-generator + 4 lines of python for 20 bucks!
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Regardless of who is right or wrong, this is a completely inappropriate forum to air these grievances. I know the whole 'indie cred' thing stems from Notch's easy availability via Twitter, but this kind of unfiltered ranting is only serving to undermine the community more. He's fracturing an already shaky, drama-laden internet community with he-said she-said, and quite frankly, is the kind of behavior that proves the whole "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company," comment. This whole thing screams of growing pains from taking a small indie company into the big time. Hosting a conference of this size is a huge undertaking, and being unprepared can mean huge logistical nightmares. It sounds like there are a lot of little details that fell through the cracks- reviewing content before presentation, media coaching/preparation and fully setting everyone's expectations for conference behavior and rules and party logistics. Maybe the YOGS guys are primadonnas or dicks, maybe they were unprepared for the con and having to be personable and live on stage, and maybe they are being man-babies about the whole thing. (In seeing them post on SA, they seem pretty drat chill so i'm not sure I buy it) Regardless, Notch shouldn't be slamming them on social media sites with such vitriol, it is just going to serve to further alienate the fanbase between two camps. A ton of people did get started playing this game because of the Yogscast. Not to further clutter this post with marketing speak, but it seems like he's trying to castrate his biggest brand advocates.
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To be fair though, it's nice that this explosion in content is something that you can take or skip over (once it's done). I've loved keeping up with this thread in all of its incarnations, but I absolutely love the recent slow down as compared to months ago. I remember when being busy for a few days meant I'd come back to find 60 new pages and knowing, even though skipping them means skipping screenshots of someone's awesome rainbow penis fountain buried deep within, it was just too much. Don't like drama skip drama (later) and enjoy piston penis erection machine when posted.
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Notch posted:They called us "a bunch of nerds who don't know how to run a company", demanded that we pay them to come here (nobody else got paid). PS: "nobody else got paid" is pithy and all, but is probably not the phrase you'd want to weaponize when your company is seeing an enormous spike in sales thanks in some small part to the event and its attractions. Welcome to your new for-profit business, please familiarize yourself with the manual before operating.
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Notch posted:Everyone else in the Minecraft community is all about respecting and caring. They're not. They're an isolated island of egos. I wonder where the Egos of the modders live. Maybe a different island? 
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JerikTelorian posted:I wonder where the Egos of the modders live. Maybe a different island? Let me tell you about modders egos:
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redmercer posted:
What version? 1.0, or one of the 1.9pres? (E: I guess snow doesn't spawn in 1.8.1.)
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I don't know where he gets the idea that the community doesn't have egos involved after all the modding drama that's happened with Painterly and Yogsbox and Technic Pack and so forth.
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Wow, I normally have no opinion on this poo poo but that crossed my "rear end in a top hat manchild" threshold. gently caress him. There is zero reason he couldn't have contacted yogscast in private and aired grievances about how he interpreted their behaviour instead of blowing up on twitter. What an egotistical prick.
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I think their side is going to be "We were asked to make something to show for the con so we asked if we were going to get paid" which isn't unreasonable to ask when they are acting as live entertainers for a conference that is taking $450,000 in ticket sales. Maybe they were prima donnas and dicks about it but asking about getting paid to promote someone elses business doesnt make you an rear end in a top hat.
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JerikTelorian posted:I wonder where the Egos of the modders live. Maybe a different island? I'd point you to their Archipelago of Egos community webpage, but you probably don't want to have to click through an ad.fly link.
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quote:Everyone else in the Minecraft community is all about respecting and caring. They're not. They're an isolated island of egos.
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48 Hour Boner posted:This is the most bizarre statement. Didn't half the modding community lose their poo poo because someone wrote a script to bypass adfly links? That's why he said island of egos. The Minecraft community as a whole is a continent sized landmass of egos, and Yogscast is an isolated island just off the coast of that continent.
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The best part is that nobody at Mojang has apparently watched the yogscast videos, because them being huge egotistical assholes is what I would have expected to happen.
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48 Hour Boner posted:This is the most bizarre statement. Didn't half the modding community lose their poo poo because someone wrote a script to bypass adfly links?  MY
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Can we start two new threads? 1) For actual minecraft discussion 2) For all discussions related to Mojang/Notch? I really don't care about this poo poo and just wanna read about release, seeds, and fun stuff. I'll even make the minecraft thread for gently caress's sake.
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iuvian posted:The best part is that nobody at Mojang has apparently watched the yogscast videos, because them being huge egotistical assholes is what I would have expected to happen.
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Cervixalot posted:...but it seems like he's trying to castrate his biggest brand advocates. This is the part I really don't get about all this drama. fake edit: I take it back, minecraft.net doesn't even have Google Analytics running, so maybe they actually don't know how many referrals they're getting.
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TRANT RESNER MAN posted:The best thing to come out of this would be Yogcast closing their youtube account. I hate most of their content. Apart from the Mod spotlight. The videos on Industrialcraft were really neat.
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Cervixalot posted:Maybe the YOGS guys are primadonnas or dicks, maybe they were unprepared for the con and having to be personable and live on stage, and maybe they are being man-babies about the whole thing. (In seeing them post on SA, they seem pretty drat chill so i'm not sure I buy it) That's a whole shitload of maybe's you got there. One thing's for sure, though: they haven't said anything, yet, nor did feel the need to have a hissy fit on Twitter about the whole situation. Maybe they will, but I don't think so. As you said, they are usually pretty chill so this whole situation stinks.
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iuvian posted:The best part is that nobody at Mojang has apparently watched the yogscast videos, because them being huge egotistical assholes is what I would have expected to happen. I wonder if notch took Simon's "We invented the loving language" comment seriously.
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Ziploc posted:I hate most of their content. Apart from the Mod spotlight. The videos on Industrialcraft were really neat. It's not so much content as it is a set of funny accents with annoying laughs. People eat that poo poo up, but I'm hosed if I can understand why it's so popular.
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Cool. Would fifty more goons like to analyse the situation, please? I don't feel I have gotten enough opinions on this subject as yet.
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Senator Woofington posted:Can we start two new threads? It happened once. This thread was nice for a while, but the other one was so lovely that it got gassed.
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Gasmask posted:Cool. Would fifty more goons like to analyse the situation, please? I don't feel I have gotten enough opinions on this subject as yet. It's almost as if message boards were for debate and discourse...
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lordfrikk posted:That's a whole shitload of maybe's you got there. One thing's for sure, though: they haven't said anything, yet, nor did feel to have a hissy fit on Twitter about the whole situation. Maybe they will, but I don't think so. As you said, they are usually pretty chill so this whole situation stinks. For a couple of guys (and gal) who just run a YouTube channel and website rather than a multi-millions dollar company, their response to the whole thing is a hell of a lot more savvy on the PR and social media marketing front. Put out a response promising further explanation, stay quiet until the initial vitriol and drama calms down, and (in theory) prepare a diplomatic response addressing Notch's comments and community backlash.
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redmercer posted:
Here you go, then. Snow on seed 777 at x=-2292, y=77, and z=-3045.
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kedo posted:This is the part I really don't get about all this drama. I don't buy this line of bullshit, honestly. Minecraft had already taken off like a rocket before they started doing their little webshow. You can't quantify the effect they had or did not have on it, because the explosion had already started. I'm sure they contributed their share, but you can't jump in while the game is starting to spike and then say everything that came after was thanks to you in equal share.
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Spoggerific posted:Here you go, then. Snow on seed 777 at x=-2292, y=77, and z=-3045. How did you find this? I wasted 15 minutes looking around for snow. Python script?
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Senator Woofington posted:Can we start two new threads? Gasmask posted:Cool. Would fifty more goons like to analyse the situation, please? I don't feel I have gotten enough opinions on this subject as yet. Excuse us for discussing something that is actually happening with Minecraft/Mojang right now. I guess we have to go back to posting screenshot of castles that we have all seen for the millionth time.
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PalmTreeFun posted:How did you find this? I wasted 15 minutes looking around for snow. Python script? I just spent a few minutes flying in one direction on creative mode until I got lucky and found snow. I'm not good enough to write a script for this kind of thing.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:What version? 1.0, or one of the 1.9pres? 1.0 Release. And I knew there was likely to be some sort of techy solution like that, and I posted it anyway. So one of you jerks saying "easiest dub ever", shut up and collect it. Congratulations to Spongerriffic! Read your PM's! redmercer fucked around with this message at Nov 21, 2011 around 21:41 |
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Carecat posted:It's almost as if message boards were for debate and discourse... ok have fun debating who's the biggest meany in some internet bullshit slapfight imma play some video games
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StealthArcher posted:
Anyways, I don't think its unreasonable to expect to get paid to go to a convention and run a panel. There was no mention of extortion, so I assuming that wasn't the case and that they just wanted a reasonable fee for their time and services. Notch was probably just upset that they had the audacity to not go along with the others and make him money for free. Also, I'm very curious about the age of the kid that they dropped the F-bomb at. I'm going to laugh when it turns out that the kid was like 15. My bet is that the nerds running a company thing came about when they realized how obviously unprofessional the convention was being run. -edit I know this stuff is inane, but it's still fun to discuss. IShallRiseAgain fucked around with this message at Nov 21, 2011 around 21:42 |
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redmercer posted:1.0 Release. And I knew there was likely to be some sort of techy solution like that, and I posted it anyway. So one of you jerks saying "easiest dub ever", shut up and collect it. Spoggeriffic got it a few posts up. 
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Gasmask posted:ok have fun debating who's the biggest meany in some internet bullshit slapfight imma play some video games Right after you get done posting in the tread! 
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