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Shadowmorn posted:I still think* the idea of changing it with the Doom 1 Shareware ending text was the best idea. To be fair Notch didn't really have any notoriety from 1.7 and back. I think I played a little in early alpha and then came back when redstone and minecarts were added.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:You should if only for a night or two. Yesterday I came back to the surface in the middle of the night to hear my golem fighting something, some zombies trying to knock down doors, and a creeper crawling near me. So for the first time in my entirety of playing Minecraft I said gently caress it, equipped my sword and spent the rest of the night killing zombies and spiders while herding creepers away from the village until dawn came. It is a lot of fun, until you realize that if you live in the village, this is how every goddamned night is going to be spent from now on. This is why our house is about a minutes walk from the nearest village; if you feel like zombie shenanigans, you can hang out there overnight, otherwise they're safely outside the loaded chunks. I'd honestly like to see the invasions be more... sporadic, like the blood moons in Terraria. After all, we have moon phases now, let them go bananas on a full moon or something.
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Wolfechu posted:I'd honestly like to see the invasions be more... sporadic, like the blood moons in Terraria. After all, we have moon phases now, let them go bananas on a full moon or something. Wait, there are actual invasions now?
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The GUI is final and will never change. (early machines functionality) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIuUIlVGhrk
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As for the ending, isn't it meant to be a joke? I seem to remember notch putting out a casting call for the most intentionally pretentious endings possible about a month before putting in that ending. So it's not self-serious or anything, just a really bad joke. edit: Specifically, I think it was meant to be a smarmy response to the critics saying that Minecraft isn't a game because it doesn't have an ending (yes, people have said that). So he put the stupidest thing possible in there. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2012 around 23:32 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:edit: Specifically, I think it was meant to be a smarmy response to the critics saying that Minecraft isn't a game because it doesn't have an ending (yes, people have said that). So he put the stupidest thing possible in there. Also shows that he caves to his critics.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Wait, there are actual invasions now? Yes.   The frequency of attacks seem to increase the larger the village is. As it is, I have to sleep ASAP or the village get's overrun as I'm building.
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Schwarzwald posted:Yes. Are your zombies monks??
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Wait, there are actual invasions now? Well, I don't know if they're formally invasions, but like Schwartzwald says, the number of monsters seems a lot higher than you'd get in a non-villager chunk.
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Bicehunter posted:The GUI is final and will never change. Looking good Bicehunter, well inventory space remain that large? I like being able to haul retarded amounts of materials around. Also, is that space weed I see growing in the background?
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Wolfechu posted:Well, I don't know if they're formally invasions, but like Schwartzwald says, the number of monsters seems a lot higher than you'd get in a non-villager chunk. They spawn in swarms. While on a rooftop I was able to see eight or so zombies spawn at the same moment. They then beelined toward a villager house. Bicehunter posted:Are your zombies monks?? I'm using Jiang Shi zombie skin from the Painterly texture pack. http://painterlypack.net/
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Wolfechu posted:It is a lot of fun, until you realize that if you live in the village, this is how every goddamned night is going to be spent from now on. This is why our house is about a minutes walk from the nearest village; if you feel like zombie shenanigans, you can hang out there overnight, otherwise they're safely outside the loaded chunks. It would be nice if the villagers actually stayed in their houses until the zombies were gone, as opposed to just walking right out at dawn while the zombies are still there and haven't quite burned to death yet. I guess the expectation was that the golems would have killed all the zombies, but if your village wasn't big enough for golems in the first place, then your villagers are hosed.
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Do villagers spawn in any village, or only ones that are pre-made? Like if I were to just build a fake village in the middle of the desert, would villagers start to spawn in it?
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PRADA SLUT posted:Do villagers spawn in any village, or only ones that are pre-made? No, unless you used 2 spawn eggs. Otherwise you have to push villagers all the way to the middle of that desert.
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So once villagers are near a player-made house, they'll use it like a normal house? To start a village in the middle of nowhere, I'd then have to push two villagers towards it and they'll repopulate from there?
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PRADA SLUT posted:So once villagers are near a player-made house, they'll use it like a normal house? That's my understanding of it at least
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RossMan4Life posted:Which only reminds me, he mentioned drawing from Dwarf Fortress and other Rogue-likes for MC a long while back and went on to make a fuss about his vision back with pistons and in regard to other mods. People bitched and moaned when hunger was implemented. Now that the framework for villagers is out of the way and they have an AI coder on staff, I'm really curious to see how Notch will push Jeb et al. Will the next big goal be a series of loose goals like in Nethack or ADOM? Could you imagine the uproar on the Minecraft forums for something like cursed items? I'm a huge Nethack fan, so a good Nethack map/mod in Minecraft would probably cause me to vanish into it for months and never return. With the increased map height, it might even be possible to build an adventure map/mod based. You'd need to remove all the tooltips from potions, and give each type a different colour (which I think should be possible with a textre pack?), somehow figure out how to do things like cursed items and armour (that you can't remove from the hotbar/equipped slots?) and negative enchantments, but I think it'd be possible. The problem would be that a lot of the randomly generated nature of Nethack would disappear unless you could make a map be generated upon world creation. In the mean time I'm very tempted to try out the Yogbox hardcore mode as from what I've read over in the Modding thread it doesn't seem too dissimilar.
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shas posted:Nethack map/mod in Minecraft would probably cause me to vanish into it for months and never return. With the increased map height, it might even be possible to build an adventure map/mod based. Well assuming 3 block high rooms with 1 block high floor/ceiling, you should get 80 "levels" from bedrock to sky. Looking at this guy's griefing hack, it seems easy enough to procedurally remove blocks. For nethack, you'd just have to create a mask in software and have it cut out the unmasked areas in a certain range of Z levels (252-256, 246-250, etc). You'd need to start with some sort of custom map that was nothing but stone though from bedrock to 256. He starts off doing vertical stuff, but later (2:45) they start switching to horizontal, which is what you'd want for your nethack idea. Just remove the blocks unmasked for the rooms 3 deep, each time you go down one level. Better example is seen at the 9:50 mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3IUONiBd5E Hadlock fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2012 around 12:49 |
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Enzer posted:Looking good Bicehunter, well inventory space remain that large? I like being able to haul retarded amounts of materials around. Might be abit smaller, but there is no real limit to stacksizes on blocks, I'm probably going to add a soft-cap at 999 or 9999 so that the text-rendering of the number doesn't render over the next cells number. And yes, its space weed ;P Testing my non-cube blocks.
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Testing block toughness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6CqFJT0ViI An improved (not finished) "astroid" generation. Using my jetpack to get up higher. There are now 2 rare mineral/metal types in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6kAMXVVJOg Alot of other small and larger fixes done today too.. some productive hours. Added another machine that can make items, so now there is one for blocks and one for items. Did some gui fixes like tooltips and then I changed abit in the lighting routines.
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Slimes do not spawn on slabs, right?
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Slickdrac posted:Slimes do not spawn on slabs, right? Half-blocks are slabs, right? If so, you are correct. No mob can spawn on a half-block, lit or not.
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Can mobs spawn on a block composed of two half-blocks? I can't remember if it's considered different in the game.
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Elysiume posted:Can mobs spawn on a block composed of two half-blocks? I can't remember if it's considered different in the game. Yes. So long as the two stacked blocks occupy the same space that a normal solid block would. If the stack ends on a half block space, then no.
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Is there an actual bug that's causing villagers to disappear or are they just really fragile and stupid? And I'm just not satisfied with these tiny little villages anymore, I think this weekend I will build a vast empire and fill it with Testificates until my computer melts/I get bored/they all die. ...I just wish there was actually some way to interact with the little guys though, singleplayer Minecraft can be so lonely. 
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Get any of the village building mods that have existed long before notch's villages and are way way better in that you can actually talk to people and directly help the villages.
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Zoe posted:Is there an actual bug that's causing villagers to disappear or are they just really fragile and stupid? Their current AI might as well be rebranded "hole-seeking technology", since they demonstrate an uncanny ability to wander off and get trapped in places they can't escape from. Then, realizing the futility of their situation, they wish themselves out of existence, leaving behind all of their worldly possessions. Perhaps, if their fragile wooden doors could have kept the world out, they would have also succeeded in keeping the villagers in (and out of holes.) These are not bugs. This is the indie charm. It's probably highbrow commentary on society, as a hole.
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Why does my Minecraft have weird grids along the outsides of every block? It's like every plane is outlined. I try to play every now and then but it gives me a headache after about 30 seconds of playing and I turn Minecraft off. It started arbitrarily doing this a while back, but I don't know what triggered it. I updated to 1.2.3 and have the corresponding Optifine (Multi-core version, because the chart provided in that thread implies that the multi-core version is the most advanced) and it still does this. In fact I think it is more jarring now than before, or perhaps I notice it more. I recently updated java but as I said it has been doing this for a while now.
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Devoyniche posted:Why does my Minecraft have weird grids along the outsides of every block? It's like every plane is outlined. I try to play every now and then but it gives me a headache after about 30 seconds of playing and I turn Minecraft off. It started arbitrarily doing this a while back, but I don't know what triggered it. I updated to 1.2.3 and have the corresponding Optifine (Multi-core version, because the chart provided in that thread implies that the multi-core version is the most advanced) and it still does this. In fact I think it is more jarring now than before, or perhaps I notice it more. I recently updated java but as I said it has been doing this for a while now. Do you have anti-aliasing turned on? I had that happen to me once, and making sure my graphics card settings weren't set to forcing anti-aliasing fixed it.
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Music tip: Soundtracks from snowboard/surfing movies often have really cool, aethereal tracks, perfect for minecraft. Currently I'm listening to the soundtrack from that's it that's all and thicker than water. Really cool when a new track starts right when you see sunlight again after a long spelunking session 
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I can reasonably play Minecraft on my system with about 15-20FPS using Optifine (with optimal settings - minimal particles, short render, etc...), but I've been toying with the idea of running it in Linux using OpenJDK because I've heard that the performance is a touch better. I tried running it in Ubuntu 11.10 but the performance was actually worse (with both OpenJDK and the Sun JRE). The FPS were about the same, but there was some horrible mouse lag which might have been the distro not agreeing with my graphics hardware (Intel Mobile Series Express Chipest). My primary computer is a laptop with no real means of adding a graphics card. I can go back to running it in Windows with acceptable quality, but before I do, I just want to know if there are any Linux distro's out there that any of you would recommend for running Minecraft. My system isn't too new and I don't know all of the specs (I'm at work now), but what I know is this: 3G RAM Intel Dual Core Processor (I can post the processor speed when I get home) Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Running 64 Bit JRE (so that's not the issue) Intel Mobile 4 Series Express Chipset If it's just my graphics hardware, I understand; I'll just make do until I can get a better computer, but I have limited resources at the moment so any assistance tweaking things would be appreciated. VVVV I'll give that a try once I get home; I can't believe I haven't tried that yet... MeccaPrime fucked around with this message at Mar 14, 2012 around 19:23 |
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MeccaPrime posted:I can reasonably play Minecraft on my system with about 15-20FPS using Optifine (with optimal settings - minimal particles, short render, etc...), but I've been toying with the idea of running it in Linux using OpenJDK because I've heard that the performance is a touch better. I tried running it in Ubuntu 11.10 but the performance was actually worse (with both OpenJDK and the Sun JRE). The FPS were about the same, but there was some horrible mouse lag which might have been the distro not agreeing with my graphics hardware (Intel Mobile Series Express Chipest). My primary computer is a laptop with no real means of adding a graphics card. I can go back to running it in Windows with acceptable quality, but before I do, I just want to know if there are any Linux distro's out there that any of you would recommend for running Minecraft. Defrag your harddrive. It made all the difference in the world for my wife when she's on her laptop.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Their current AI might as well be rebranded "hole-seeking technology", since they demonstrate an uncanny ability to wander off and get trapped in places they can't escape from. Then, realizing the futility of their situation, they wish themselves out of existence, leaving behind all of their worldly possessions. Perhaps, if their fragile wooden doors could have kept the world out, they would have also succeeded in keeping the villagers in (and out of holes.) Oh now we know where the Endermen are from. Those holes. They were meant for them. It's their hole. Drr... Drr...
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MeccaPrime posted:I can reasonably play Minecraft on my system with about 15-20FPS using Optifine (with optimal settings - minimal particles, short render, etc...), but I've been toying with the idea of running it in Linux using OpenJDK because I've heard that the performance is a touch better. I tried running it in Ubuntu 11.10 but the performance was actually worse (with both OpenJDK and the Sun JRE). The FPS were about the same, but there was some horrible mouse lag which might have been the distro not agreeing with my graphics hardware (Intel Mobile Series Express Chipest). My primary computer is a laptop with no real means of adding a graphics card. I can go back to running it in Windows with acceptable quality, but before I do, I just want to know if there are any Linux distro's out there that any of you would recommend for running Minecraft. I use Xubuntu for Minecraft on my laptop, which is a C2D and Intel HD 3000. I'm not sure if Unity (the GUI in Ubuntu) defaults to 2D with that chipset, but it may be running in 3D and consuming precious resources on the integrated GPU. I'd maybe try running a different window manager. The Xubuntu-desktop package will install XFCE, and you can pick the session on the login screen. Linux Mint's Cinnamon UI is also quite good although I have not tested it on my laptop. Note that I still don't get super great performance on my laptop, which is a bit higher specced than yours. My last laptop - a Gateway - had similar specs to yours and when the game hit infdev it could no longer handle Minecraft. Edit: Correction, my old laptop had a Centrino Duo and a GMA 945. Probably a pretty large difference there. babies havin rabies fucked around with this message at Mar 14, 2012 around 19:45 |
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I'm not 100% certain, but I think I defaulted to the 2D Unity environment. I didn't know if running a distro with a KDE or Gnome environment would be any different or if it was just my hardware to blame. I haven't tried Xubuntu or an XFCE environment, but I can add that to the list of stuff to try. Thanks!
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What are the cheapest and most reliable MC server hosts these days? Haven't played in awhile and a friend and I are itching to set up an MP server to dick around on.
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Cervixalot posted:What are the cheapest and most reliable MC server hosts these days? Haven't played in awhile and a friend and I are itching to set up an MP server to dick around on. Any spare computer in your house?
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Cervixalot posted:What are the cheapest and most reliable MC server hosts these days? Haven't played in awhile and a friend and I are itching to set up an MP server to dick around on. akliz is pretty cheap, and also goon run.
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Death Himself posted:Any spare computer in your house? You don't even need a spare computer. One person can host it completely AND play.
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