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PalmTreeFun
Apr 25, 2010

*toot*


Are you sure it's java.exe and not javaw.exe? Also isn't Java under Program Files, not Sys32?

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csidle
Jul 31, 2007

I'm trying to organize a prison break.

I hope that you've had enough to drink. It's going to take courage.


So is "ive got an amazing seed it starts you off on a tiny island in the middle of the sea" the new "guys i think i found the biggest cave ever"?

BobTheJanitor
Jun 28, 2003



quote:

All food (except Mushroom Stew) is stackable.

Sometimes gameplay has to trump realism. Sure, you can't really expect to stack bowls of soup up in reality. But come on, this just means no one will ever use Mushroom Stew.

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008



daggerdragon posted:

Read the patch notes.

Thanks. I had skimmed it before but must have missed that bit. That's a bit odd that it's the only exception, especially now that it's benefit is on par with cooked pork and steak. Oh well, at least I can be a mobile bakery now.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Allen Wren posted:

C:\Windows\System32

That seems kinda to me. Java installed into windows?

This is what my old server ran with:

@echo off
"%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar craftbukkit-0.0.1-snapshot.jar
pause

Arrath fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2011 around 20:30

48 Hour Boner
May 26, 2005

I think something's wrong with this thing

csidle posted:

So is "ive got an amazing seed it starts you off on a tiny island in the middle of the sea" the new "guys i think i found the biggest cave ever"?

Yes! Incidentally, the former happens if you enter "GREATEST SEED EVER". "shipwreck" spawns you on a small island with one tree.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss


csidle posted:

So is "ive got an amazing seed it starts you off on a tiny island in the middle of the sea" the new "guys i think i found the biggest cave ever"?
No, because some people are actually interested in and use the ocean seeds. I know I've used some from this thread.
Conversely I've never ran off to a seed because it had a really big cave.

Tornado Lazers
Mar 4, 2008
VAGINA AVOIDER; LEADER OF THE BIBLE STUDY GROUP; WETTEST BLANKET


Do all seeds start with giant oceans and tiny islands now or what? I just started a new 1.8 world and there was no trees on my island so I swam for 10 minutes to find one that did have a tree on it. Now I've hollowed out a little hovel of sorts on my tiny island, have half a heart left, and a skeleton in the basement. Slowly growing trees during the day to make torches.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009



BobTheJanitor posted:

Sometimes gameplay has to trump realism. Sure, you can't really expect to stack bowls of soup up in reality. But come on, this just means no one will ever use Mushroom Stew.

I don't think that's the reason. When you eat your soup, you are left with the empty bowl occupying the slot. The best solution to this would be to make stacked soups unusable.

csidle
Jul 31, 2007

I'm trying to organize a prison break.

I hope that you've had enough to drink. It's going to take courage.


I love the feeling of being Cast Away on a tiny island. But how do you get food?

Disappointing Pie
Feb 7, 2006
Words cannot describe what a disaster the pie was.

csidle posted:

I love the feeling of being Cast Away on a tiny island. But how do you get food?

Grow wheat?

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!


I love the particles in the water I wish it didn't get so dark underwater though

Not a Twat
Oct 11, 2010


Disappointing Pie posted:

Grow wheat?

This is really slow if your island doesn't have much grass and you're too weak (because of starvation) to kill skeletons for bone meal. I've found its easier to just go explore a cave and hunt zombies.

It's really weird that zombies have become a food source. Normally they're the ones trying to eat your flesh. Maybe the player is the real zombie.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

These Gauls are crazy.


csidle posted:

I love the feeling of being Cast Away on a tiny island. But how do you get food?

Fish?

Anyhow, time to ask an oft-asked question: Is there a fix for the lag spike?

nippon nifties
Feb 20, 2006

dire dire ducks


Creepers seriously need to be restricted to a 2x1 blast radius or at the very least return all the blocks they destroy and not just half. I don't even care about dying to them, just give me my blocks back.

thetedster
Jan 31, 2007


BobTheJanitor posted:

Sometimes gameplay has to trump realism. Sure, you can't really expect to stack bowls of soup up in reality. But come on, this just means no one will ever use Mushroom Stew.

Probably has something to do with the soup returning an empty bowl once you eat it.


Edit: Should have previewed

glitchwraith
Dec 29, 2008



Nenonen posted:

I don't think that's the reason. When you eat your soup, you are left with the empty bowl occupying the slot. The best solution to this would be to make stacked soups unusable.

Or just throw the bowl to the ground. Not that big of a deal to pick it up again, or make a new one if you where dumb enough to eat soup over lava. Or leave the stew as is but give some kind of added benefit. Perhaps as a cure for food poisoning?

HAL9100
Feb 20, 2004

New, Improved, No Longer Homicidal, Greeen!


glitchwraith posted:

Or just throw the bowl to the ground. Not that big of a deal to pick it up again, or make a new one if you where dumb enough to eat soup over lava. Or leave the stew as is but give some kind of added benefit. Perhaps as a cure for food poisoning?

Or just get rid of the stupid bowls altogether. Oh no I wasted 3 planks making the most easy-to-obtain food item! I have broken the bank!

horse mans
May 11, 2011

on the lone prairie


It's obscene how quickly the hunger meter goes away before you start leveling up. What's that? I jumped once? Well, time to eat three loving pork chops before all my health disappears!

On another note the terrain generation is fabulous and whatever they've done with the lighting system is beautiful.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005


I like that this update added the groundwork for NPCs in the game... but its also the update that added endless oceans, huge cave canyons, empty villages, and a creepy alien enemy. All combined, the game is now even MORE lonely.

And I seriously love that lonely cast away feeling.

Read
Dec 21, 2010

well your stupid and have no friends


If I try to open up Minecraft.jar for the 1.8 release I get an error and it won't load ):.

Java Virtual Machine Launcher posted:

Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from C:/Users/Read/Appdata/Roaming/.minecraft/minecraft.jar

Invisble Manuel
Nov 4, 2009


I haven't found an entrance, yet, but for the Something Awful seed, there's a stronghold at/around -685,-280, at, say, 20-30 from bedrock

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009



glitchwraith posted:

Or just throw the bowl to the ground. Not that big of a deal to pick it up again, or make a new one if you where dumb enough to eat soup over lava. Or leave the stew as is but give some kind of added benefit. Perhaps as a cure for food poisoning?

Or make it give a random temporary hallucinogenic power of varying usefulness. Maybe sometimes you would sense mobs through walls, or maybe you'd become 'invisible' to mobs. You would have a good reason to keep a few at hand, but you couldn't carry too many of them.

Or just make them stackable. I don't care, I don't like mushrooms IRL so I don't like them in games either...

The Battle Axe
Mar 30, 2011


For those of you who would prefer a more 'normal' map instead of an island start with few trees, I propose the seed "friendship is magic y'all" (or 859100400). In the initial starting area (defined by me as roughly the area that the map item in Minecraft will map) there are (at least): three ravines, two abandoned mines, two villages, one of each biome, and several open air lava and water flows/pools.

Cartographer:


My spawn point was located somewhere on that small, sparsely treed peninsula right off of the desert there. Rough coordinates:


I explored the ocean first having originally thought I spawned on a small island. To my surprise I managed to find both an underwater ravine/abandoned mine AND an underwater cave.

Cave:

Ravine:


Next I moved on to the main continent, focusing on that plateau above the forest biome. I expected to find the usual small mountain caves, but instead found some pretty picturesque locations. Pics:




Next I found one mountain which I have nicknamed 'The Hub' because it's interior cave system seemingly connects to everything. Located at the openings seen here:


Inside:



Exploring the branches off of the gravel pile in the second picture, you'll eventually come to a ravine and who knows what else. Surprisingly I found another mountain cave basically next door, but this one was enclosed. Having roughly five openings all leading immediately to the outside, it would be perfect for a building site.

Some openings:

The interior:


Near the village nearest that plateau, you can find another ravine and mine though two openings. One is more of a straight drop down while the other is more stair-like and safer (less-fun). This can be located around these coordinates:


That is basically the extent of my exploration as my laptop can only handle so much. I know for a fact there are two ravine openings I didn't take screenshots of. One is bisected by the river between the plateau and desert, and the other is near that stone area within the woody biome above the desert; you can't miss either of them if you keep your eyes open.

The Battle Axe fucked around with this message at Sep 14, 2011 around 22:57

BobTheJanitor
Jun 28, 2003



Fren posted:

It's obscene how quickly the hunger meter goes away before you start leveling up.

I haven't even noticed that leveling up does anything at all. Is there a list somewhere of what exactly it's supposed to do? At the moment it just seems like the bar fills up and then resets and that's it.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009



Vib Rib posted:

How hard is hard?
suavebaby spawns you on a teeny-tiny island in the middle of a vast ocean with no trees.

Okay, this is getting really interesting now. Further to the south is another island with a tree, and there is also a cavern that leads into a stronghold!

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010

She was in the mood, making silly faces; silly bands on her wrists match the bands on her braces.


Fren posted:

It's obscene how quickly the hunger meter goes away before you start leveling up. What's that? I jumped once? Well, time to eat three loving pork chops before all my health disappears!

Leveling doesn't affect how fast you get hungry. It doesn't do anything at all, in fact.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010



Cygni posted:

And I seriously love that lonely cast away feeling.

Since 1.8 I decided to start using one of those seeds on a tiny island with one tree and it's been immensely fun at first just doing basic survival stuff like farming and fishing (because no friendly mobs spawn there) and moving on to developing the island for my own purposes, and eventually mapping the ocean for other tiny islands to build up.

Skizot
Oct 23, 2006
HOW I MINE FROSTBOLT?

I'm having an odd issue where i can log into minecraft.net just fine... but ingame it says login error.. any ideas?

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Skizot posted:

I'm having an odd issue where i can log into minecraft.net just fine... but ingame it says login error.. any ideas?

Sometimes the launcher will just sit there attempting to log in forever, while the older straight to main menu exe will login fine, do you still have that laying around?

Skizot
Oct 23, 2006
HOW I MINE FROSTBOLT?

Arrath posted:

Sometimes the launcher will just sit there attempting to log in forever, while the older straight to main menu exe will login fine, do you still have that laying around?

I do, and it's what is giving me the issues.. i found the new version and it's not giving me the login issue. but it's giving me a weird error when trying to connect to penislandia.

horse mans
May 11, 2011

on the lone prairie


Taffer posted:

Leveling doesn't affect how fast you get hungry. It doesn't do anything at all, in fact.

Oh. That's ... really strange. Well for the first two minutes or so playing I lost all of my hunger meter and health. After that, it started acted reasonably.

Ignimbrite
Jan 5, 2010

BALLS BALLS BALLS


Fren posted:

Oh. That's ... really strange. Well for the first two minutes or so playing I lost all of my hunger meter and health. After that, it started acted reasonably.

Probably because you were sprinting around or jumping like a lunatic. That eats up hunger like nothing else.

csidle
Jul 31, 2007

I'm trying to organize a prison break.

I hope that you've had enough to drink. It's going to take courage.


Does anyone have a seed where you start off on an island that's not tiny, has some trees, but isn't real big? Medium, I suppose!

Selklubber
Jul 11, 2010


I just found Venice: Minecraft Edition:

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

I feel kind of weird calling it the Hunger Meter. Losing hunger shouldn't be the state where you take damage. Perhaps Food Meter, or Belly Meter, or for you guys that are into rotten flesh, the Braaaaains Meter.

Allen Wren
Feb 27, 2008



PalmTreeFun posted:

Are you sure it's java.exe and not javaw.exe? Also isn't Java under Program Files, not Sys32?

Arrath posted:

That seems kinda to me. Java installed into windows?

This is what my old server ran with:

@echo off
"%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar "%~dp0craftbukkit-0.0.1-snapshot.jar"
pause

The server gave me the following:

code:
2011-09-14 14:30:34 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.8
2011-09-14 14:30:34 [WARNING] **** NOT ENOUGH RAM!
2011-09-14 14:30:34 [WARNING] To start the server with more ram, launch it as "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
2011-09-14 14:30:34 [INFO] Loading properties
2011-09-14 14:30:34 [WARNING] server.properties does not exist
And I just pasted that quoted line into a new shortcut. Windows filled in the rest of the pathing. Windows is probably incorrect in this case.

And it is. With a quick swapup to java being in Program Files and some quotes where necessary, the server is launching.

Logtar
Sep 15, 2008

by T. Fine


Well I'm getting lag spikes every few seconds which is making the game nigh unplayable :/

http://i.imgur.com/nMwJy.png
^This was right when I reloaded the game after installing Java 7, the last 3 giant spikes are basically par for the course from then on

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005


Taffer posted:

Leveling doesn't affect how fast you get hungry. It doesn't do anything at all, in fact.

Still waiting for the mod that removes hunger and experience completely.

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Taffer
Oct 15, 2010

She was in the mood, making silly faces; silly bands on her wrists match the bands on her braces.


Allen Wren posted:

I've tried

C:\Windows\System32\java.exe -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar C:\Users\redacted\Desktop\minecraft resources\1.8 server\minecraft_server.jar

and

C:\Windows\System32\java.exe -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar

and get no love. Only one java in there in the first place.

Put the minecraft_server.jar file anywhere you want.

Create a text document, and paste this:

code:
java -Xms512M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
and save it as start.bat, in the same folder that minecraft_server.jar is in.

Double click it, and the server will start. Don't bother with the .exe, you don't need it.

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