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Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

Fishylungs posted:

I think the most amusing part of the coming update is that, even though they don't do anything, no one has complained about the XP orbs. Even though they don't do anything.

Meh. I don't have any use for the dumb c-rpg poo poo Notch wants to put in the game, but I don't HAVE to do anything with it (for the moment), so it doesn't particularly bother me. I save my annoyance for the hunger gauge; gently caress penalizing people for not eating if they don't need to heal. I'm even ok with the non-instantaneous healing, though I'd prefer it the other way, but "if you don't eat, you'll lose health or die"? That's getting modded out immediately.

That said, I finally looked at a full list of what's supposed to be in the update, and almost all of it I'm neutral or excited about. 1.9 may very well end up a pile of poo poo for me, but 1.8's pros seem to outweigh the cons by a lot.

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Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

miscellaneous14 posted:

If I read correctly, having full hunger replenishes your health, though? So you can still save your food for when the hearts start dropping, unless you need an instant-heal right that moment which, chances are, you're in too much danger to swap through your items right then anyway.

That part isn't what bugs me really, it's this:

jeb_ on twitter the other day posted:

If the the food bar is empty in MC 1.8, it will slowly drop your health to 5 hearts on easy, to 0.5 hearts on normal, and kill you on hard

That seems intrusive and unnecessary. Even if you like the mechanic, .5 hearts on normal seems kind of bullshit to me.


Fishylungs posted:

It's supposed to be toggle-able so assuming they didn't remove that option you shouldn't even need a mod.

Also, a "meh" is still not complaining.

Oh I know, I wasn't intending to complain. If "hunger kills" is toggle-able then it becomes like xp - not something applicable to the game I'm playing, and therefore easy to ignore. 1.9, though, seems like it will decide whether the way Notch wants me to play is compatible with the way I want to play.

Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

^^^I've made it obvious I don't like it either way at this point, but yeah, the speed of the health drop is a factor in how much I don't like it as well.


Vib Rib posted:

You're going to need to heal anyway, and the food you'll be eating either way adds to your hunger bar. If your health gets down to .5 hearts for any reason, you'd normally eat something to begin with.

Both the old (current) health bar and the new hunger system work on the same premise of eating food to refill, it doesn't seem all that different.

But I wouldn't have to heal if the hunger bar hadn't left me on the edge of death, that is what bothers me. I understand that if a creeper blows me up and I'm reduced to a half-heart then I need to heal. Of course I do, that's obvious. What I don't like is the idea that if I'm not injured by an attack, I'm going to have to waste my time finding food, or the next time I fall more than three blocks I'm a dead man.

(and before someone says "creative is coming back now, have fun" or "maybe peaceful is the setting for you": I like fighting creepers, zombies, and skells. I like building walls that spiders can't get up. I look forward to standing on one of those walls, behind a lava moat [or a regular moat I guess], and daring the endermen to come at me and I like having to dig out every stone block I use in those walls)

Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

Vib Rib posted:

Well, all I can say is that if you're fighting monsters as often as all that, the food you'll be eating anyway will keep your hunger bar nearly maxed out anyway. I doubt you'll ever be in danger of starving, especially now that food's stackable.

Maybe, and that's what I told myself when this all was first announced. It just seems like if that's going to be the case, then they don't need to ding you when you manage to avoid being hit. Or if you spend a few days building a copy of the Shime mine tower to dock your floating biome-disks at and don't see any monsters, or what-have-you.

Which I guess is another reason that I want to know what the time scale is on this health-drop thing. If it's long enough then you're right, it probably won't matter at all.

Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

Notgothic posted:

(and before someone says "creative is coming back now, have fun" or "maybe peaceful is the setting for you": I like fighting creepers, zombies, and skells. I like building walls that spiders can't get up. I look forward to standing on one of those walls, behind a lava moat [or a regular moat I guess], and daring the endermen to come at me and I like having to dig out every stone block I use in those walls)



Anyway, we'll see what happens on +1. I actually do feel better about the whole thing after discussing it.

Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

Read posted:

Animal cruelty ):.

Nothing is too cruel for ghasts, gently caress them forever.

Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

Fishylungs posted:

The first time I saw one I was in awe.

About the tenth I wanted them to gently caress off and die, I was trying to make my way in the nether.

When I was first trying to build a nether-passage I thought ghast-bombs could blow up everything; when I found out there was a damage threshold I made it my mission to build a bunch of stone tubes through the air, with plenty of windows so I could point and laugh.

Oh, what's that Mr. Ghast? Hurt me? You'll have to speak up, I can't quite hear you through my IMPENETRABLE WALLS

Notgothic fucked around with this message at Sep 9, 2011 around 10:58

Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

Eiba posted:

So I was wrong when I guessed it would eventually snow in a boreal forest. It's been raining for a while now.

I guess there's no snow in the game anymore. Has anyone seen anywhere with ice or snow?

I remember reading somewhere in the last few pages that snow is definitely currently not working for anyone, hopefully this will be fixed by Monday.

Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

ExtraNoise posted:

I've updated Quandary for use with 1.8!



In case you're running 1.8 already and you wanted Quandary. It is understandably in testing, but if anyone would like to grab screens, I'll be happy to use them on the website when 1.8 goes live.

Until then, here's the download file for all six seasons:
http://www.retributiongames.com/qua...uandary_4.2.zip

Enjoy! Thanks for being great to the pack, goons! Tomorrow is Quandary's first birthday. I can't believe it's been a year.


Oh kick rear end, man, I haven't even used 1.8 yet and you've already got this out, very cool. Happy almost-birthday, Quandarypack

I remember you were burned-out on the whole thing for a while, so seriously, thanks for still putting this out.

Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

There've been a few floating homes in the last couple of pages, so I thought I might as well post mine. Side note: gently caress CLOUDS, I spent three days on a nerd-scaffold waiting for a clear shot at sunset. Glad that won't be an issue anymore.


I present to you Deutschland literally über alles:


And here's a daylight picture for people like me with crap monitors:



(The chain can be climbed, if one wants to get adventurous.)

Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

Zebrin posted:

The chains are the real kicker there. that is awesome.

I want to try doing a diagonal one for the next disc instead of running along the ground from the U-bolt and then vertically. On the up side, it'll be a lot easier getting up to the disc to work on it; on the down side, I haven't had a lot of luck making a curve not look like crap so far.


Eiba posted:

What's exceptional is this fucker.



Oh man, that's just begging to be the next (loving HUGE) Skeletor fortress!

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Notgothic
May 24, 2003

Thanks for the input, Jeff!

Jin Wicked posted:



Your episode of Hoarders was quite awful Have you gotten that chin-scrotum checked out?

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