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Rei_ posted:

Also OOO's 46 is really good. I really like these characters, I'm going to miss them.

Just saw it and I second this. Great episode, I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens next. Unless everything falls flat at the end (it still might) this is building up to one of the few actually memorable Kamen Rider finales I've ever seen. It helps that they seem to have saved up some special effects budget instead of clearly winging it at the end.

I'm also excited about Fourze, from what little we know it looks like it could be good goofy fun. Based on past series I've seen, the second-to-last episode of OOO should have some kind of teaser trailer at the end, right?

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Rei_ posted:

They refuse to let Den-O end for some reason.

Den-O was a massive success, and that movies keep coming out for it seems to mean that it's still filling up theater seats. Let's Go Kamen Rider was a really obvious attempt at cash-grabbing by combining it with the new hotness (OOO) and the massive crossover premise (All Riders VS Dai-Shocker was easily the highest-grossing Rider film up to that point).

I still like Den-O, and at this point they seem to have learned the right lessons from it, chiefly that not all shows need to be serious business like Faiz or Kabuto. You can see its influence in W, OOO and presumably Fourze, and they seem to have quickly caught on that you can have a lot of goofy silliness going on AND still have a good story (which Den-O did not have).

Also, spoiler-tagging this even though I'm sure no one gives a poo poo, really minor thing in the OOO movie: It will have a cameo by the Kamen Rider Girls. Yay.

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I was thinking of updating my spergy Ultimate Powers checklist from the previous thread, but Gai did a nice job getting everyone up to speed in the last episode.

Speaking of Gai, I can't shake the feeling that he's doomed. I don't know if sixth ranger deaths are frequent in Sentai, but for some reason I can't quite articulate, a lot about him screams "don't get too attached" to me. He was given his powers by the spirit of three dead rangers, and the whole reason for it is that he showed his willingness to put his life on the line in order to do the right thing. In about any other show, that would be foreshadowing, wouldn't it?

Plus, there's the obvious Gai Daigouji connection, which may or may not be a total coincidence.

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Pinwiz11 posted:

Still nothing. I can't wait until they fill out of the backstory, even the Zangyack are dismissive of him.

Dumb theory from out of my rear end: he's actually AkaRed's amnesic civilian form

Though more seriously, if I recall right he was the last one to join the team, wasn't he? That would at least make ONE thing we know about him.

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Syrant posted:

What was the first sentai show? Like, the one that started it all? I'm curious because watching Carranger sort've threw me for a loop with it's age, I remembered all the stuff from the US version (Turbo or something?) being all shiny-new but Carranger looks .. 1980s-ish to me.

Prepare to have your mind blown. That's the first sentai, strictly speaking. There's tokusatsu even older than that, but I'm not totally sure which one was the FIRST first.

That said, Carranger is still 1996. I blame japanese special effects tending to lag behind a little compared to America, and 90s footage not having aged well compared to today's HD everything. That, and nostalgia goggles.

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Little Abigail posted:



TV-N, ladies and gentlemen.

I am so glad that Over-Time will be picking this up. It's hard to tell much more than we already know from the teaser, but I'm still pretty excited to see what it's going to be like.

OOO finale next week! Will Eiji and Ankh both make it out okay? What is in that present box? More importantly, will Kougami quit while he's ahead as a not-quite-antagonist and avoid getting his poo poo kicked in?

And judging by the Gokaiger next episode preview, I don't know if I should just skip it outright or watch it to make the OOO finale look better by comparison. Freaky Friday? Seriously? I guess they had to make up for how awesome this week's episode was.

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SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Hahahaha the end of the preview for the next Gokaiger.
"Why does stupid crap like this happen?"

Marvelous just went ahead and said what everyone watching it must have been thinking.

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I doubt that this trend is going to last the whole show. For what it's worth, I liked the Hurricanger episodes and like the Carranger one, they seemed fairly consistent with their original show's tone. It's just a bit unfortunate that they also happened to be sandwiched between the return of Zealousto and the obligatory Freaky Friday filler ep.

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Pinwiz11 posted:

A cowboy Kamen Rider would be better.

Kamen Rider Super-1 would like to have a word with you.



Oh, why did they have to go and ruin a perfectly good design with those cowboy frill things.

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Shazaminator posted:

Yeah, at some bits Kabuto got way too serious.

Okay, bad example. vv Kabuto's main plot and setting was still intended as very serious, still, even though it dabbled into way more comic relief than some other series. Maybe Kiva would have been a better example.

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OOO finale owned, especially the action parts, not much else to say about it. I liked that little bit in the end credits where Fourze characters got a cameo. When in continuity does the OOO movie take place, anyway? Or is it just "huuuuh, poo poo, don't think about it too hard" like Movie Wars Core?

Either way, thank you, Over-Time crew, for helping make the last year not suck.

Next week is SPACE TIIIIME! and I can't wait.

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Rei_ posted:

Do we know what the opening theme sounds like yet? I wonder what the music will be like for this iteration.

You can hear some of it in the background in the preview at the end of OOO. Singer is female, melody seems a little repetitive, but that's really as much as I can tell. W and OOO both had really catchy themes, so let's hope they continue that trend.

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Rei_ posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPSpLoBbcBo

Fourze Opening theme.

Sounds rather... generic. Not particularly good or bad. Maybe the full version will change my mind somehow.

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OnimaruXLR posted:

High school setting

For what it's worth, that's original for Kamen Rider. Though I hope it doesn't turn into a trend.

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So I finally saw the first episode of Fourze.

All right, show, I bet five dollars on you. Please don't make me regret it!

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There oughta be a toy of the Navi racecar from the beginning of the Carranger episode.

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Revolver Bunker posted:

I wonder if they'll be adding in any homages to other rider series given that it's touting the 40th Anniversary logo. The weapons attachments work pretty well. Reminds me of another guy that summons attachments. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Xm...feature=related

He reminds me of Birth, actually.

The old rumors said that Fourze was going to use weapons and vehicles from past Riders, but that seems to have been the only part they got completely wrong, given that we see a lot of his gear in the OP and all of it is original stuff. I imagine they might have planned it as a crossover earlier in production, but wound up changing their minds.

Of course, this doesn't discount some kind of strange anniversary plot twist. At the very least it would be nice if he got a switch from the obligatory OOO crossover movie.

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Scratchman Apoo posted:

Almost all of the characters names are references to old Riders. It's just being kinda subtle about the anniversary stuff.

Huh, interesting. Mind filling us in further?

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Flameingblack posted:

Doing a marathon Kamen W first, I absolutely love the setting. The town is awesome, and the detective/noir stuff is good in all the right ways. I heard a lot of people hate the girl lead, but I've really taken to her overly bad acting, it cracks me up.

As far as this forum is concerned, I don't recall hearing people complain about her much if at all. Her acting is completely over the top in a hilarious way, and unlike most Kamen Rider girls, she manages to pull her weight as a team member, or at the very least not be a load they keep around for no clear reason.

Sadly her character kind of degrades in the spinoffs. Someone earlier compared her to Chi-Chi, which is pretty much spot-on. Of course, you won't have to worry about that for a while.

Meanwhile Fourze continues to be great. I'm really liking Gentarou as a main character, especially now that it's occured to me that he's basically on a quest to become the ultimate bro.

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Possible spoilers, from that Super Sentai Dice-O card game and I don't know how accurate these tend to be. Gokai Red Gold Mode?! Hints that Gai is doomed (or even already dead) keep piling up...

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Flameingblack posted:

I hate the stupid rumor that Gai is dead since everyone had the equivalent to Gold Mode in Shinkenger at least once and as far as I know it's pretty modern tradition for the Red one to have a upped form of their own.

But it seems to have more in common with Burai's shield than anything else, which DID mean the sixth ranger's death. I'm more in the "Gai is doomed" camp since it would be appropriate to how he got his powers in the first place (willingness to lay down his life to do the right thing, powers inherited from three dead characters). Gai already being dead might be going a little too far into a "plot twist for its own sake" direction, but there's got to be SOMETHING up with him not seeing Gai Yuki besides "he's an earthling and we thought it would be funny".

I know we don't spoiler speculation, but it's all based on a thing that may or may not be a spoiler so I'm taking no chances.

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Flameingblack posted:

You mean, besides there not being a sixth ranger on that team? I truly believe that was the only reason. Because there wasn't a legacy for Jetman to pass onto Gai.

All the Zangyack could also see him, though. Either way, it's just kind of a weird plot point. I'm not a big subscriber to the theory.

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Rei_ posted:

So uh, Fourze 03 is out. Wire-Fu, Hopper switch, MYSTERIES ABOUND regarding Zodiarts identities... Seems pretty good!

It's one of Miu's lackeys I bet, I need to go back and check but it looks like the first one 'pretends' to get knocked over and then runs away. The video footage was the goth girl on her CAN YOU JAM WITH THE COWBOYS IN CYBERSPACE iPad though.

I pretty much agree with the entirety of this post. As was said before, it also reminds me of Double in a good way, specifically with mysterious monster identities. So far they also don't skimp on the action even when Gen is untransformed, which is really nice. I kind of hope "WHY DO WE FIGHT EVERY TIME?!" turns into a running joke.

My only real worry right now is that, if they keep everything to "school grounds", they'll probably quickly run out of places to have fight scenes in. They already reused that bridge, which made for an interesting callback to the first episode, but that could get old quick. That said, "it's cramped in here, let's take it outside!" before magically cutting to a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOCATION will probably never get old.

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Chibs posted:

AHHH WHAT THE gently caress GOKAIGEEEER

Don't you mean UAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

It's kind of funny that the series that nearly got Super Sentai canned got such a fantastic episode. Lots of good lines, the fight scene was impressive and the twist was well done. Too bad the next episode preview is making it seem underwhelming by comparison.

By the way, would there be some interest in my updating the Ultimate Powers OCD checklist I posted in the previous thread? It's been a while since Gai gave his rundown.

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All right then, here it is. Spoilers if you're not up to date, naturally.

Gokaiger Ultimate Power Checklist

Himitsu Sentai Goranger 199 Heroes
J.A.K.Q. Dengekitai 199 Heroes
Battle Fever J
Denshi Sentai Denjiman 199 Heroes
Taiyo Sentai Sun Vulcan
Dai Sentai Goggle-V 199 Heroes
Kagaku Sentai Dynaman 199 Heroes
Choudenshi Bioman 199 Heroes
Dengeki Sentai Changeman Basco
Choushinsei Flashman Basco
Hikari Sentai Maskman Basco
Choujuu Sentai Liveman Episode 30
Kousoku Sentai Turboranger 199 Heroes
Chikyu Sentai Fiveman
Chojin Sentai Jetman Episode 28
Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger Episode 18 (Gai)
Gosei Sentai Dairanger 199 Heroes/Episode 33
Ninja Sentai Kakuranger
Choriki Sentai Ohranger Episode 31
Gekisou Sentai Carranger Episode 14
Denji Sentai Megaranger
Seijuu Sentai Gingaman Episode 20
Kyuukyuu Sentai GoGoV Episode 23
Mirai Sentai Timeranger Episode 18 (Gai)
Hyakujuu Sentai Gaoranger Episode 9
Ninpuu Sentai Hurricaneger Episodes 25-26
Bakuryu Sentai Abaranger Episode 18 (Gai)/Episode 29
Tokusou Sentai Dekaranger Episode 5
Mahou Sentai Magiranger Episode 3
GoGo Sentai Boukenger 199 Heroes/Episode 21
Juken Sentai Gekiranger Episode 7
Engine Sentai Go-onger 199 Heroes/Episodes 35-36
Samurai Sentai Shinkenger Episodes 11-12
Tensou Sentai Goseiger 199 Heroes


Only five six five powers still unaccounted for? That went by fast. That said, those obtained by Gai or in 199 Heroes might still get an episode, not to mention those Basco has nabbed, but I imagine those were picked precisely because they couldn't get any actors for them. I'm still crossing my fingers for a Zyuranger episode, even though I know the series itself was nothing special!

Edit: Corrected Battle Fever J. Thanks, Pinwiz11!
Edit 2: Corrected Denjiman. Thanks, Cliff Racer and Pinwiz11 again!
Edit 3 (October 29th): Added episodes for Dairanger and Go-onger.

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Lobsterman posted:

Is there a story to this? I'm pretty new to Super Sentai so I'm kind of curious what happened there. Or is it just a 'Ohranger had poo poo ratings' thing?

As far as I know that's pretty much it, yeah. Then Carranger came right and, as the story goes, somehow saved the franchise by parodying the poo poo out of itself. The funny part is how Power Rangers Turbo then almost got THAT franchise killed with terrible ratings, meanwhile.

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Pinwiz11 posted:

(Battle Fever J hasn't officially been claimed yet according to Gai. )

Updated! They said they got 11 powers from the movie and that brings it down to ten, but I guess it just means someone somewhere didn't double-check their stuff.

ImpAtom posted:

I don't know. It could also be the "Introduce the new side-rider in the movie" thing like Birth or Accel (Well, sort of Accel.)

I would be down for a major character girl Rider (as in, not movie-only), but this one looks like a She-Fourze who'll be using the same Switches. Traditionally the second Rider has been more or less its own thing with its own gimmick to sell toys with, so it seems unlikely to me.

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Cliff Racer posted:

I thought that they got Denjiman's power (listed as being taken Basco here?) Someone on /m/ said that Denjiblue had a little sideplot in the movie.

All right, fixed again. I'm okay with the possibility of Battle Fever J having its own episode, since I like those incredibly cheesy-rear end costumes and the "world warriors" premise. I can already see it, Navi will cryptically tell them the next power is somewhere outside Japan, then they'll land in an unidentified country (that looks exactly like Japan) and bumble around for two minutes until running into the guest star. It'll be great!

I too wish Gai would use something besides Gold Mode more often. I was hoping that he'd be keeping it for when poo poo get real, especially since sixth rangers are typically huge badasses in their own right, but nope. Last episode was a perfect opportunity to turn into KingRanger, too.

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V-Men posted:

Well, I suppose you don't need the keys to get the corresponding ultimate power.

And even so, he probably views it like the Ultimate Powers: Marvelous and his crew gathering them all together in one place just makes his job easier, in the end.

Basco really gives a supreme lack of fucks about anything, it's pretty great. I'm voting Basco for series final boss.

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Little Abigail posted:

So, we started scrubbing Den-O.

Check it out.

We also offer it in true HD.

I saw Den-O fairly recently so I only have one question: What did you do with "Ore sanjou"?

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Pinwiz11 posted:

Doc's going to be the reincarnation of Aka Red, or he should be if the writers have any sense.

That's still my pet theory, based on not much at all. AkaReds, whatever the hell they are, are basically Time Lords, you know?

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Most KR series from Den-O Kabuto on contain large helpings of goofiness in a similar vein. W is probably your best bet in that regard, but if you don't want to spoil your appetite everything else besides Kiva and Decade, I think, is worth checking out.

This reminds me, maybe we should use the ADTRWiki for toku recommendations? The genre is niche and technically not anime, but the discussion of which shows people should watch seems to come up a lot.

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AzraelNewtype posted:

Absolutely not, but more to the point the continuity doesn't make any sense so repeat to yourself it's just a show you should really just relax.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm calling it now: it takes place in the weirdassed non-continuity the lovely Den-O and Kiva crossover movie is set in. There.

Rei_ posted:

Also, Movie Wars.jpg

What is this about?

Also, the latest Fourze episode is literally Breakfast Club. Excellent.

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Last night we took Let's Go Kamen Riders as an excuse to catch up on some Rider movies, and by god, the Cho Den-O trilogy is poo poo. And I say this as someone who liked Den-O to begin with. The Zeronos movie was just offensively dull and the character it's supposed to star only gets one fight he gets his rear end kicked in?? and the New Den-O one was at least a bit better by comparison but still kind of mediocre. Though I do appreciate its efforts to give Kotaro and Teddie some actual personality. I'm not sure I want to see the Diend movie, but I'm still morbidly curious.

Meanwhile Let's Go Kamen Riders was like night and day compared to them. Even the Den-O crew was written much, much more entertainingly than in its own movies. I'm not sure what to think of how they've just completely stopped trying to pretend that Ryotaro is supposed to be the main character, especially given that Den-O usually seems to improve the further Momotaros is pushed into the spotlight, oddly. Either way, the movie is very fun so long as you turn your brain off for it. It also seemed to be making a point of basically saying "Decade never happened, don't even ask why he's in the movie", which works for it in my book.

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I think the double-episode thing is mostly a question of "it's much easier on our budgets to film 25 50-minute episodes rather than 50 25-minute episodes". You have to come up with less plots, less monsters of the week, you can use power-ups to pace things when there isn't much exciting to show...

I think sometimes it works for the show, sometimes against. Some plots just feel rushed if they're done over a single episode, but it's frustrating when there's an end-of-episode fight you just know the Rider is going to lose on a technicality because it's only the first episode, despite everything at least feeling like it's wrapped up. Meanwhile Sentai still has mostly single episodes, so you know poo poo is getting real when there's a two-parter on, which isn't a luxury Kamen Rider has.

Perigryn posted:

I think Hibiki did it too to a degree.

Kuuga did it. This is not exactly a new trend, but not every series has stuck to the formula very slavishly until fairly recently.

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DiscoJ posted:

The Mole Imagin must be a running joke inside Toei now.

I think there were about three in the Den-O series anyway and they've appeared fairly prominently since.

It's pretty funny since if I recall in the show they were very powerful opponents, but the fact that there was more than one of them retroactively had them demoted to foot soldier status for the movies.

linall posted:

Just for the record, did W do loving fantastic in Japan or something?

It seemed to do pretty well as far as I can tell. Not quite as much of a cash-cow as Den-O, but that was rather unprecedented.

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V-Men posted:

I miss DekaGokaiOh.

Yeah, the Hurricane Gokaioh spam is really, really getting old. At this point I'd be okay with seeing yet another MagiGokaioh finisher just for variety.

Also, ultimate powers list has been slightly updated because why not.

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Dr Tran posted:

Are you guys really complaining about Hurricane Gokaioh when a new robot just showed up to take its place?

The (predictable, but still) "oh no the Go-Onger power isn't working" blue balls moment from the end of the last episode, followed by yet more stock footage shuriken spam, is what did it for me. But you have a point. We'll probably be able to stop complaining very, very soon.

...or more likely, we'll have something new to start complaining about once they use it five episodes in a row.

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Roflfox posted:

It's just fun.

That seems it up pretty well. It's like the entire cast is made out of Akiko.

Chev posted:

Also: space sheriff Gavan confirmed for the Gokaiger movie.

Hot drat. I've never seen Gavan nor really any metal hero show, but I really love its style. And as a crossover, it... makes a lot of sense.

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As a Rider fan, I had the worst feeling of foreboding, even though I'm generally okay with Power Rangers. (First they came for the Super Sentai...)

...but then it occured to me that an american adaptation of W, no matter how bad, might mean actually affordable Gaia Memories.

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