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WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

ante posted:

Is there an extension that will add my custom search sites (wikipedia, google maps, pornsite.ca, etc) to the right-click contextual menu � la the Google toolbar?

Preferably integrating with the search engines in my FF search bar (that I've added those custom sites with the "Add to Search Bar" extension)?

Context Search might be the droid you're looking for.

Not sure if it's been posted, but there are a couple of new mockups of what the UI might look like some time in the future:

Windows Vista/7:

Mac:

More mockups here.

Also, the level of nerdrage from people on the interwebs about Firefox version numbering is horrendous, complaining that the recent releases should all be 4.1, 4.2 etc. People don't seem to get it that the new way of doing things gets performance improvements and new features to end users faster. Some folks even want Firefox to go back to the old way of doing things... you know, shipping stuff 5 months late, beta for the better part of a year.
:ughh:

WattsvilleBlues fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Aug 17, 2011

# ¿ Aug 17, 2011 13:02

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 18:46

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

fourwood posted:

Are they really planning on a design that only has space for ~3 full-size tabs when maximized?

Well it's probably safe to assume that tabs will resize as more are opened, as is current practice. Also probably a safe bet most people are running resolutions higher than 1200x800.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2011 14:34

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

TheDukeOfFail posted:

I like to keep my previously opened tabs saved so that when Firefox opens they are all still there and I don't have to manually do it. However, Firefox hates it and takes bloody ages to load everything, along with much hard drive thrashing. It's only around 7-8 tabs as well.

This is generally only a problem for a few minutes in the morning but still, it eats into my internet pictures time while eating my breakfast

I previously had an addon that would only load tabs when I clicked on them for the first time, which greatly reduced this problem but it stopped working at some point and I've forgotten what it is anyway. Anything else that does this?

Probably not much use to you at the minute, but the nightly builds have this feature built-in.

Actually, so do the Aurora builds.

WattsvilleBlues fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Aug 22, 2011

# ¿ Aug 22, 2011 23:45

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Didn't see anyone mention this, but Firefox 7 has been in beta for a few weeks:

Drastically improved memory use
Added a new rendering backend to speed up Canvas operations on Windows systems
Bookmark and password changes now sync almost instantly when using Firefox Sync
Added support for text-overflow: ellipsis
Added support for the Web Timing specification
Added an opt-in system for users to send performance data back to Mozilla to improve future versions of Firefox. This can be enabled by installing an add-on
Fixed several stability issues

During random browsing, I find it does seem to use less memory on x64 Windows 7.

# ¿ Sep 2, 2011 17:47

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

jeeves posted:

Is this version the one to finally have an x64 build?

Nope, still only on the nightly channels. Any time I've played with those builds they've been fairly stable, though that's without any extensions etc. installed.

Mak0rz posted:

Any idea if it fixes text aliasing for hardware acceleration on lovely graphics cards?

Yup, although I got the lovely text aliasing in Firefox 4-6 and my graphics card isn't total bollocks (nVidia GTS 250). I'd actually gotten used to the blurry fonts, but going back to Firefox 6 now is just painful.

# ¿ Sep 2, 2011 21:35

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

cre3d posted:

Been using nightly for a couple weeks now and I must admit, memory usage is less than half of what my Firefox 6 install was using. Even on pages with lots of embedded content, it's just a nice even linear progression of memory usage as tab count goes up. I dare say they plugged some leaks

Yeah they've made some good progress. Two things they really need to sort out yesterday - Electrolysis, and do something about that "Firefox is still running" bullshit that most average folk probably think requires a computer restart. Whether they give you a kill or restart Firefox option, or just kill it silently and load up the last session, it's a pain in the rear end that should be addressed.

# ¿ Sep 3, 2011 23:06

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Pilsner posted:

Something really annoying has started to happen since perhaps a week ago. I was on 5.0, but just now upgraded to 6.0 and now 6.0.2, same results.

I have my FF set to load google.com upon opening a new tab, and as you know, Google has JavaScript that puts the cursor in the search box. I used to be able begin typing something to search for immediately, as soon as the site had loaded (which is of course lightning fast), but since this started happening, FF doesn't respond to input right away - I have to wait a second or two until I can begin typing. It's almost as if it's attempting to do type-ahead search behind the scene, which "steals" the text from the google.com search text box.

Is this the fault of Google or FF, or a combination?

Could be an extension updating something in the background (like Adblock updating its filter lists) or, if you have a load of Live Bookmarks to load, it could be fetching the RSS feeds there. That said, I have both Adblock and 9 Live Bookmarks loading and focus isn't stolen on startup. You tried the default about :home Google search page?

# ¿ Sep 8, 2011 18:01

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Go here, download and install the latest final release of Firefox 7, it will then change your settings to download only the release channel from now on.

WattsvilleBlues fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Sep 30, 2011

# ¿ Sep 30, 2011 10:55

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

TwoKnives posted:

When are we likely to see the Chrome-like UI changes appear in the nightlies, or were those mock-ups just ideas that won't necessarily be implemented?

I think they're targeting Firefox 10 for the new theme, so that would make it January/February 2012. Someone made a theme out of it. Rough round the edges but gets the job done.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2011 14:26

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Lum posted:

Well 64bit Flash is finally out as an official "finished" product.

Installer for Firefox here: http://aihdownload.adobe.com/bin/install_flashplayer11x64_mssd_aih.exe

I'm sure there'll be a security update tomorrow, mind.

Do they have an installer that doesn't auto-delete itself after installation?

# ¿ Oct 4, 2011 22:34

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Lum posted:

Not that I could find, but it appears to extract itself and then run "%LocalAppData%\Temp\install_flash_player_64bit.exe" -dlm -install

What you really want is the non-DLM version.

I guess making the installer auto delete itself may be a slight security improvement since any installer you download will be out of date in a few days anyway.

Nah the non-DLM version suicides too. The sooner the world sheds itself of Flash, the better. Assuming HTML5 video is more secure. About which I don't even know what I'm talking about.

# ¿ Oct 5, 2011 00:20

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Lum posted:

If this is for a corporate install, I guess you just do a batch file

COPY \\SERVER\ShittyApps\install_flashplayer11x64_mssd_aih.exe %TEMP%\FuckThisShit.exe %TEMP%\FuckThisShit.exe

And then the problem is sorted.

Heh, dude, I have like 4 computers on which to update this poo poo at home. That's it. But it does become useful for the dozen or so computers a year I have to format etc. Not a huge pain to have to download it every time, but a pain nonetheless.

# ¿ Oct 5, 2011 01:37

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

They've had Sync server issues for about 48 hours now. Mozilla is working on it apparently.

# ¿ Oct 5, 2011 21:55

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

HKR posted:

I recently switched back from chrome to FF7. What do I need to install to enable h.264 video playback in FF7? The Microsoft plugin isn't compatible with FF7 it seems.

Bump your compatibility and install this.

# ¿ Oct 7, 2011 23:49

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Isurion posted:

Wow, well that was probably the most painless update I've ever done for any software. Thanks for your help!

Out of interest, what version did you upgrade from?

# ¿ Oct 8, 2011 19:55

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Isurion posted:

I was on whatever the latest automatic update of version 3 was.

Gotcha. You noticing much in the way of speed improvement in the new version?

# ¿ Oct 8, 2011 20:15

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Fangs404 posted:

There are a ton of very noticeable speed improvements. Every version since 3 has gotten faster in some way. 7 flies.

Oh I've been running betas, nightly builds etc as my primary browser since version 4. Just wish they'd get the UI off the main thread. If that makes sense?

# ¿ Oct 8, 2011 20:58

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

pseudorandom name posted:

Generally the UI is on the main thread. You want everything else off the main thread.

Aye that :-)

# ¿ Oct 8, 2011 21:07

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

NOTinuyasha posted:

Does anyone else have an issue with bookmarks randomly not saving? Or am I going crazy?

No problems here. You got any funky extensions installed? What version you running?

# ¿ Oct 17, 2011 10:49

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Microsoft Spy posted:

And here is a decent news story on ver 8 goodness http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57320795/firefox-8-new-rules-for-add-ons/

CBS News posted:

Tabs get a tune-up, too. The animations should look better when people reorder tabs

Um, the reordering animation was removed?

# ¿ Nov 8, 2011 23:47

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Mozilla has announced today that the Electrolysis project, which aims to make Firefox a multiprocess application, will be put in pause for the foreseeable future.

Source.

I have awful problems with Firefox responsiveness. I think Adblock Plus causes most of them though. I can't even watch YouTube anymore without pauses every few seconds.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2011 16:58

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

pokecapn posted:

It's definitely some other extension, or possibly live bookmarks / RSS feeds refreshing if you have a ton of them. You can check out this list but I don't think it's all that exhaustive.

I don't know, when I have Adblock Plus running, Firefox freezes every few seconds. The CPU goes up to 30% and more just sitting idle. When I disable ABP, it doesn't. I'm also seeing massive RAM usage, about 50% more than in Firefox 7 (I'm on 9 beta atm).

# ¿ Nov 16, 2011 23:48

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Is Firefox now just a big lumbering dog? I mean... per-tab processes, UI responsiveness, memory handling, all not great.

As has been said, Electrolysis has been going on for years - I know it's a massive undertaking, but how about some results? Every Firefox release since version 1 apparently has a more responsive UI, which isn't really borne out in my experience.

Memory handling is better in the latest releases after v7, but to be honest what I want more than anything is the UI responsiveness of Chrome.

# ¿ Dec 14, 2011 23:17

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Alereon posted:

The UI Is pretty responsive for me, you have Windows 7 in Aero mode and a DX10 videocard with current drivers, right? Chrome has lower memory usage with a small number of tabs, which makes it decent for light usage, but Firefox scales far better when you have a few tabs open. You might want to try a brand new profile without any add-ons if you haven't done that in awhile.
That's how plug-ins work now (plugin-container.exe), not sure why you think this would help.

Yeah running Windows 7 with SP1 with Aero on and Hardware Acceleration enabled and current GPU drivers, and I frequently hose my profile and just import bookmarks and then install extensions I always use, 10 of them. I'm on an Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz with 4GB RAM. Is this considered to be a complete heap of poo poo these days?

# ¿ Dec 14, 2011 23:34

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

My original graphics card, an nVidia GTX 8800 768MB card blew up a year ago, and all I could afford to replace it with was my current nVidia GeForce 250 GTS, which is pretty poo poo.

The idea of Firefox is great (lean core, fancy stuff done by third parties), but the problem is that often third party extensions are clunky and fat.

Also, I have 10 live bookmarks that I use regularly throughout the day. One reason I can't move to Chrome is that there's no live bookmarks substitute that works. Plus, I have a fair bit of emotional loyalty to Firefox, which pains me to say because it cements the fact I am a raging nerd who has feelings for software.

How I've got a girlfriend I'll never know (I hope she never sobers up :ohdear:

)

# ¿ Dec 14, 2011 23:49

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Alereon posted:

Yeah, the extensibility of Firefox is its biggest downfall. The big problem is that there's no way for a user to know if an add-on they're installing is going to poo poo up the browser, they tried to do a performance rating thing awhile back that was moderately successful, but add-on authors sperged out like they were being convicted of a crime and forced them to pull it. Live bookmarks use a shitton of memory, but if they're useful enough to you to make that worth it, it's all good.

Had been having a months-long problem with Flash stuttering/pausing in Firefox. I always suspected it was caused by Adblock Plus - latest update to 2.0.1 seems to have fixed it.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2011 00:15

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

HalloKitty posted:

You're just stealing my thoughts now.

Another piece of evidence upon the mountain already gathered: I love it when other goons agree with me.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2011 00:36

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Dice Dice Baby posted:

drat it, my change tab mouse (wheel) gesture (right click + wheel) doesn't work in Waterfox...

Other than Pale Moon, what are other x64 builds?

http://waterfoxproj.sourceforge.net/news/23/15/Waterfox-8-0-1-Available/

# ¿ Dec 16, 2011 17:18

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Grey Area posted:

This article claims that Google is now paying three times as much ($300 million/year) due to a bidding war with Microsoft Bing. I wonder what they'll do with all the extra money.

Probably plough it into more mockups they'll never fully implement, fix bugs that affect 0.0001% of users, talk about the open web and such.

Honestly though, I hope they employ a few more developers to sort out some of the endemic problems in Firefox, problems the current hierarchy does not solve in reasonable time.

# ¿ Dec 27, 2011 00:19

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Installed Nightly on my HTC Desire (Gingerbread 2.3.3), but it won't display any sites or even the Add-on Manager. The progress indicator rotates like it's loading them but other than that :wtc:

# ¿ Dec 27, 2011 15:00

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

I installed Waterfox earlier. Something went tits-up because it constantly uses 50% CPU time on a clean profile.

# ¿ Jan 5, 2012 21:19

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

"The Dark One" posted:

I saw a couple articles mention that in 10.0, the forward button only shows up when you hit back. I just updated, and my forward button is there regardless of where I am in the history of that tab.

The conditional forward button only exists if you are using large icons, with no other button between the back button and the URL bar. Not sure if it works with third party themes.

Bah, resoundly beaten.

WattsvilleBlues fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Feb 1, 2012

# ¿ Feb 1, 2012 12:24

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

"Ryokurin" posted:

It's not Chrome fast yet, but in the last couple of days Aurora is considerably faster in the one place I can still see it as slow (mfc). As Alereon mentioned they are trying to work on improving how it feels, but in reality it's a lot faster than what people want to give it credit for.

The main issues I have are UI responsiveness and clunkyness of UX animations. Those, and flash videos can't play without stuttering every few seconds, but I know that's not a common problem.

# ¿ Feb 11, 2012 12:12

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Question Mark Mound posted:

So I'm guessing I can remove this Siphon add-on syncer extension then?

Hopefully it is the case that add-on settings are synced so that any new mouse gestures or auto-fill forms I put in only need to be set up once!

Extension settings don't get synced, just the extensions themselves.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2012 13:26

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Using Aurora 13 - YouTube videos and some other Flash videos don't play. BBC videos seem to play using Flash. Anyone else got this problem?

Edit: Flashblock was causing it. Hope the FB dudes fix that soon.

WattsvilleBlues fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Mar 20, 2012

# ¿ Mar 19, 2012 23:39

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Ryokurin posted:

Cool that you fixed it, but it still is probably the perfect time to try a new profile, at least just to test out the new feature in about :support Just make sure to copy the settings to the clipboard first, in case you don't remember all the plugins or about :config tweaks you've done. At least when I did it, it seems to speed things up a bit, probably because I had a lot of extensions.checkcompatibility settings all the way back to 3.6

I hose profiles like people hose cars. I have a clean profile backed up with bookmarks, extensions, custom dictionary and settings installed from scratch. When I manage mess things up, a new profile is a folder copy away.

# ¿ Mar 20, 2012 01:01

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Anyone using Aurora 13 on Windows 7? Startup times have improved dramatically, have they worked on this for version 13?

# ¿ Apr 8, 2012 11:42

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

xamphear posted:

Are you saying that when you install the en-gb version of Firefox, the spell check doesn't work as expected?

The British version of Firefox doesn't come with the dictionary built in - you have to download it.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2012 19:47

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Alereon posted:

Plug-in "click to play" (click-to-activate) is now available in Nightly builds. This keeps all plug-ins deactivated until a user clicks on a plug-in object, at which point all plug-ins are activated for that page. They hope to have this feature and the ability to remember settings on a per-site basis available for Firefox 14, but it may not be ready in time.

Is it not basically Flashblock that also blocks Java?

# ¿ Apr 13, 2012 11:39

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 18:46

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Install Gentoo posted:

I upgraded a relative from Firefox 3.0.19 to Firefox 12 just today, and their saved passwords and all worked fine.

Geesh, 3.0.19? You might want to backup their passwords etc. to Firefox Sync and make a new profile, just to keep things nice and crisp.

Did your relative notice much speed improvement between Fx 3 and 12?

Alereon posted:

Obviously this isn't scientific at all, but Firefox 14 feels much faster to use, really can notice the improved latency, especially with I/O transactions not blocking things.

I noticed since either Fx 12 or 13 was in beta, startup performance was much improved. I think one of those was the release they dropped support for Windows 2000 and XP (RTM, SPs 1 & 2).

# ¿ Apr 30, 2012 21:40

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