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From what I can tell the aversion to Alpha 2 gold is deep seated in ancient history. The changelog overall looks like it makes the game slightly better as a whole, some of the balance changes are wonky but the system changes look better to the game. Or maybe people REALLY like Valle CCs? Maybe the changelogs I'm looking at are wrong? Edit: I haven't played A2 to any level of degree that many others have. Pretty much my only huge gripe with A2 has to do with the power of CCs and Valle CC. Removing that - even with the stranger balance changes - looks to improve the game.
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If it was released before SF4 it isn't allowed to be patched/fixed or it's garbage. If it's released after SF4, you have to patch/fix it or it's garbage.
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May 23, 2012 22:18
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Uznare posted:Alpha 3 is loving garbage though? I'd rather have the Alpha series dead than have another Alpha 3 port. A2 is where it's at. Alpha 3 is the third highest selling SF game, though most of that was the psx release. The console versions also removed a poo poo-ton of the broken mechanics. Is it the best SF game? No, but of all the Alpha's it would be the one most likely to actually sell if put on an online market place.
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May 23, 2012 22:33
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A3 is my favorite SF game aesthetically. I love the video-gameness of the interface, the scrolling text and bright colors on the attract mode, the memorable announcer and the pixelated crap all over the screen before a round, etc. etc. I only ever played the PSX version with neighbors so I enjoyed it but I was pretty young and even worse at FG's than I am now, so I can't comment on the game vs. A2, but I loved the presentation.
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May 23, 2012 22:52
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Whoever posted about CvS2 online edition had the right idea. I would buy that game every year.
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May 23, 2012 22:54
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Just as long as its not based on CvS2:EO
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May 23, 2012 22:59
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A2G fixes made the game better but not any more fun A3 is loving terrible and I hate that game asodijfaoijdz;lknxc;lkvnzk,iqo4i9t8ji9j it plays worse than sfxt
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May 23, 2012 23:13
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Team Stab posted:Whoever posted about CvS2 online edition had the right idea. I would buy that game every year. CvS2 is my all time favorite fighting game despite the retarded roll-canceling bullshit. But this won't happen anytime soon due to licensing. 
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May 23, 2012 23:35
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Alpha 3 is cool if you take out V-ism. Or maybe I just enjoy the announcer and playing R. Mika and Karin too much.
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May 23, 2012 23:48
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I thought Karin had bad normals which made her really bad? Then again all I know about the Alpha series is what Uznare told me.
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May 24, 2012 00:18
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So, I'm watching American Idol, and I think Yipes was on in a non-speaking way. They did a little montage of people deserving  and I think he was in a group of 3 waiting for someone to finish. Anyone who happens to have this on DVR feel like checking? Figuring this out would be more entertaining than actually watching.
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LightningKimba posted:I thought Karin had bad normals which made her really bad? Then again all I know about the Alpha series is what Uznare told me. She's low-tier, but she has a lot of awesome tools and is a ton of fun to play. edit: V-Karin is actually good, because she has some really unfair setups/combos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZCdukca-tE. I never liked V-ism though. Ashenai fucked around with this message at 01:40 on May 24, 2012 |
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May 24, 2012 01:33
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CvS2 Online Edition, and they should base it off the balances of EO, and then balance it even further. The hardcore CvS2 community would poo poo all over it, of course, but gently caress 'em.
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May 24, 2012 04:35
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What exactly was so terrible about EO anyway?
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May 24, 2012 05:06
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There's really no point to doing balance changes in rereleases 10+ years after the fact.
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May 24, 2012 05:11
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redmercer posted:What exactly was so terrible about EO anyway? iirc they took out roll canceling and made other changes like i think p-groove could do super canceling and there might've beeno ther stuff. In other words it was n't a faithful version of the arcade game.
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May 24, 2012 05:16
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In this case, "Balance Changes" means a flat 5% damage nerf to all the top tier characters, 5% damage buff to random others, an EX groove addition (super cancelling) to the least popular groove, and the removal of the glitch that comprised over half of the gameplay. capcom.txt
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Alas Goonbats are over. Here are the Breaker's Revenge results: http://goons.challonge.com/ggpobats12_breakers  Let's do some  ~awards~ 1st Place: Zand 42 Points Zand is loving good at old games. gently caress this guy. He's a loving cheater. Actually knows how to play the games instead of "what's next week? oh i'll mash that three times." 2nd Place: RottKing 40 Points code:39 Points Ghostpilot is impossible to get salty at even though he's good. He plays low tier and he's incredibly nice. It's a lethal combination because you can never get mad at him enough to really want to beat him. Congratulations to all of our winners! Special shoutouts to RickoniX, NotDave, and Ixiggle for attending every single Goonbat, 12 weeks in a row. Stop playing fighting games and do something with your life already. detailed results here: http://goo.gl/JzKXR  That's all, folks!When is Season 2? The gently caress? This isn't a Q&A session... Anyway, we'll take a little break before starting the series again, but Season 2 will be one game for an extended period of time (probably start post-Evo). I'm still unsure if it should be one game for 4 weeks or for 6 weeks. Oh cool, what games? At this point it'll be 98, ST, or VSav. Still unsure exactly what's going to run when. Will there be prizes this time? No, I'm loving poor. I have more questions. Okay, well ask them then! interrodactyl fucked around with this message at 07:18 on May 24, 2012 |
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May 24, 2012 05:42
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interrodactyl posted:When is Season 2? Hell yeah. You know which one I'm voting for but none of these would be disappointing.
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May 24, 2012 05:49
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Breakers Revenge should also make a return for season 2, it's such a rad game.
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Krakhan posted:Breakers Revenge should also make a return for season 2, it's such a rad game. Breakers and SS5SP but I'm apparently like the only one left who likes that game. Looking forward to Season 2 and hopefully will be a better opponent for it! Gonna ask this in here: How am I supposed to get in on Saizo as Sho? Saizo has way too many defensive options for me to deal with. His sword slashes generally beat my dive kicks, and his sweep too (as Krakhan can attest to) and I obviously can't win a fireball war against Saizo. The sword slashes also have enough range and his fireballs come out quickly enough that I can't just walk/dash up to him.
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May 24, 2012 06:02
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I would love nothing more than Windjammers to return.
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May 24, 2012 06:04
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I'd play any of the 3 but am partial to ST and vsav.
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May 24, 2012 06:07
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redmercer posted:What exactly was so terrible about EO anyway? It mapped all the special attacks to the C-Stick. Also the previously mentioned issues.
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lovely rebalancing aside, you didn't have to play in EO input mode did you? I don't think you did for the Xbox version at least.
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Yeah you can switch it to normal input, but then you discover how terrible the Gamecube Controller is for that game.
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The Rokstar posted:lovely rebalancing aside, you didn't have to play in EO input mode did you? I don't think you did for the Xbox version at least. You didn't have to play in EO input mode. It's just like choosing simple inputs or whatever in some newer fighters. CvS2 was and still is my favourite fighter. I only really played it with friends on the xbox, but we played the hell out of it (and still do sometimes). I can't really understand how removing RCs was bad for the game; it just added invincibility frames to special moves didn't it? How is removing that a bad thing? Seems like the negative press is just a function of everyone being whiny babies with poopy diapers.
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May 24, 2012 06:50
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No, you see EO was bad because RC was great for balance because it made everyone in the game competitive. *Everyone uses A-Blanka/Sak/Cammy/Claw/Dictator for the next 6 years*
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interrodactyl posted:Oh cool, what games? I would play ST. ST is cool. Sir Ando fucked around with this message at 07:38 on May 24, 2012 |
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May 24, 2012 07:34
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interrodactyl posted:
Oh cool, what games? At this point it'll be 98, ST, or VSav. Still unsure exactly what's going to run when.  Oh cool, what games? At this point it'll be 98, 98, or 989898989898989898989898989898989898989898 UberChair fucked around with this message at 07:41 on May 24, 2012 |
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May 24, 2012 07:36
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I'd play something if I could make sure I get playable ping against US people. I suck at all old games, tho.
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engage posted:You didn't have to play in EO input mode. It's just like choosing simple inputs or whatever in some newer fighters. CvS2 was and still is my favourite fighter. I only really played it with friends on the xbox, but we played the hell out of it (and still do sometimes). It came out at a time when "the arcade standard" was still a thing people cared about.
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UberChair posted:Oh cool, what games? 98989898989898
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inthesto posted:Weird FG trivia question: How many games are there where you actually start a match with full meter? All Art of Fighting games do this, but you need meter to use specials, so you're encouraged to master your normals, avoid projectile spam and be more deliberate than random, as supers can get quite powerful. I'm kinda sad games don't do this sort of thing nowadays. This probably also applies to a bunch of DBZ games too though. Other than (or instead of) removing roll-cancelling, something worth doing in a CvS2 re-release would be actually removing rolls from the Capcom grooves that have them. It shouldn't be that hard to have a remixed and an original mode both available in the game. Which ever would make it possible for a Todoh/Kyosuke/Maki team to win tournaments instead of the usual crowd should be encouraged anyway.
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So, why do you think some characters are good every incarnation and others bad every incarnation? Characters like Chun Li and Sagat are almost always top tier and T Hawk is generally bottom tier. I realize tiers can't exactly be planned, but you'd think they'd look at a character that's almost always useless and think "gee, maybe we should this one more viable"?
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May 24, 2012 14:56
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Hawk is seeing a lot more play in ST recently, actually.
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May 24, 2012 14:59
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Watching Damdai play ST is absolutely fascinating. 
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interrodactyl posted:Special shoutouts to RickoniX, NotDave, and Ixiggle for attending every single Goonbat, 12 weeks in a row. Stop playing fighting games and do something with your life already. Goonbats don't take a lot of time out of the day if you only practice for 40 minutes and go 0-2, sometimes 1-3. Also add Breakers to Season 2. 4 games with 4 weeks a piece sounds dandy.
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I think you mean practice for 40 minutes and 
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engage posted:I can't really understand how removing RCs was bad for the game; it just added invincibility frames to special moves didn't it? How is removing that a bad thing? Seems like the negative press is just a function of everyone being whiny babies with poopy diapers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jyPQaHftWk
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