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Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

out of the way fucking noblemen



The players in this video suck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flkw9AfmhdY

But jesus loving christ the Skullgirls UI looks amazing. I can't wait to see the finished product.

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Eckertmania
May 11, 2007

"'Hey, a computer took your place, daddy.' That's hard times! That's hard times!"


OrangeCrush posted:

http://www.focus-fire.com/company/

maybe?

Yep. We brought all of the equipment that is being used for AE, MVC3, and MK.

Captain Matchbox
Sep 22, 2008

BOP THE STOATS

Is Ono trollin' again?

LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE
Jun 27, 2008

Life is such a drag.


Captain Matchbox posted:

Is Ono trollin' again?

That doesn't say he's actually been making the game, just that he's been trying to.

HORSEPORN
Oct 7, 2008


If you're at season's beatings I'm with the michigan crew on the 300 level odd number side of the red roof inn running marvel/ae casuals all night.stop by. You'll find the room easy.


If you're not here? Get here. This poo poo is already insane.

iPodschun
Dec 29, 2004

Sherlock House


Captain Matchbox posted:

Is Ono trollin' again?
He's been saying the same thing at San Diego Comic Con the last two years. Something like "I want to make new Darkstalkers game! Please tell Capcom you want it!"

Gamest Mook
Jun 22, 2011

by Ozmaugh


lmao sirlin

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

mumblecrew

Gamest Mook posted:

lmao sirlin



M Bison likes this!!

ImperialGuard
Jan 10, 2010


Gamest Mook posted:

lmao sirlin


I've looked at David Spergin's site and I can't find anything about this

Is he seriously trying to make his own MtG? If so

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

mumblecrew

ImperialGuard posted:

I've looked at David Spergin's site and I can't find anything about this

Is he seriously trying to make his own MtG? If so

He's probably just making a card-based board game like Dominion. He's already done one in the form of Puzzle Strike (though that used chips but it could have just as easily been done with cards, and even used terminology like drawing and "stack"). Honestly, PS was a pretty fun game and supposedly Yomi was decent too so I'm sort of excited. And that card art, drat.

sure you can
Nov 3, 2008



Yeah, he drops hints at making something like mtg every so often. It really shouldn't be a big surprise? I mean it's not like has has already made a card game with poor art/settings before.

Nerokerubina
Jun 7, 2007

I think swords are neat. Do you think swords are neat?!


Play puzzle strike. It's a good game.

Fenn the Fool!
Oct 24, 2006
woohoo

Anybody have good things to say about Yomi? It looks really awesome and I've played a few games against bots on the online version (http://www.fantasystrike.com), but I haven't actually played against another person.

Shock Trooper
Oct 24, 2006



This post is from two weeks ago but I'm bringing it back up because I forgot about this thread

Metrohunter posted:

Have there ever been any 9-1 matchups besides Petshop-Iggy?

Clown vs. Marstorius in Fighter's History Dynamite (Karnov's Revenge) is a 9-1 if you're feeling generous, but I think it's a 10-0. It's absolutely unwinnable for Marstorius.

Here's the thing - Marstorius is a grappler like Zangief, his Double German is like an SPD and has huge range and can be comboed into like other command throws in FHD, etc. But for some reason they ended up giving him a jump that's extremely low to the ground, which makes it hard to get over projectiles. Clown's in particular is the "highest" projectile in the game, so if Clown throws slow fireballs Marstorius has to time his jumps perfectly just to get over them. But even if Mars is jumping over them perfectly, every single one of his jump attacks loses to Clown's standing LP. It's godlike anti-air in this situation. So he gets knocked back by Clown's standing LP and Clown can charge another projectile to throw right back at him. The only other options Marstorius has to get through projectiles are his Moonsault and his Rising Knee. Both moves require a down charge so you can't make any forward progress if you want to do them. And guess what, both moves lose clean to Clown's standing LP too, so there's really no reason to do it. Even if by some miracle Marstorius manages to get close enough to get Clown in one SPD Double German, he can't really go for crossup mixup afterwards because Clown can do upball on wakeup to trade hits and get out of it.

Mars loses to every projectile charcter in FHD, but the Clown matchup is so retardedly bad. Wish I had a video of just how lame it is. And the funny thing about all this is, Clown's nowhere near top tier in the grand scheme of things, he's pretty much smack dab in the middle...

Gamest Mook
Jun 22, 2011

by Ozmaugh


ImperialGuard posted:

I've looked at David Spergin's site and I can't find anything about this

Is he seriously trying to make his own MtG? If so

Right now it seems like a Dota-like TCG (except as he is quick to point out not a TCG because there will be no random packs).

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

out of the way fucking noblemen



So, he made his own version of Dominion, and now he is making his own version of Fantasy Flight's LCGs.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

cheesy anime pizza undresses you with pepperoni eyes

I have a question about ST: whenever I get fireball spam going with Ryu, after like the 4th or 5th fireball the game starts slowing down big time and it really fucks with my timing. I can otherwise frame-perfect fireball spam. Is this GGPO choking on me or is it a ST engine thing?

It happens sometimes when I knock people down out of the air too.

I'm relatively new to the game so I'm not really sure what's going on there.

OG17
Oct 6, 2002

IF I AM TROLLING REPORT ME!

In Skullgirls, Fortune doesn't take double damage if her head and body are both hit, right?

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

out of the way fucking noblemen



OG17 posted:

In Skullgirls, Fortune doesn't take double damage if her head and body are both hit, right?

The head takes 50% damage when it gets hit (but can't block), and if I remember correctly hitting the body and head simultaneously does stack. You just can't do it with non-beam projectiles.

A Yolo Wizard
Nov 17, 2006

yes, certainly


Nerokerubina posted:

Play puzzle strike. It's a good game.

Is there a strategy guide for characters in puzzle strike and a suggested puzzle pieces setup (or are the puzzle pieces random in competition). We tried playing again last night and it was immediately apparent arg is very good with the default puzzle set as he could just buy all the Really Annoying and wipe out the other 3 people.

Nerokerubina
Jun 7, 2007

I think swords are neat. Do you think swords are neat?!


Robolizard! posted:

Is there a strategy guide for characters in puzzle strike and a suggested puzzle pieces setup (or are the puzzle pieces random in competition). We tried playing again last night and it was immediately apparent arg is very good with the default puzzle set as he could just buy all the Really Annoying and wipe out the other 3 people.

It's not balanced well for multiplayer - arg is super overpowered in anything but 1v1.

In tournaments, the chips are randomized at the start of the match. If you lose a game you get the choice of either re-randomizing the pool or swapping out 1 chip for the chip of your choice.

here's a strategy guide but it'd old and i dunno how often it gets updated.

Also to talk about an actual fighting game in this post: Parasoul looks better and better in every skullgirls video as people seem to be figuring some more poo poo out. And I'm really, really glad cerecopter assist apparently got a nerf, holy poo poo.

Gamest Mook
Jun 22, 2011

by Ozmaugh


Brannock posted:

I have a question about ST: whenever I get fireball spam going with Ryu, after like the 4th or 5th fireball the game starts slowing down big time and it really fucks with my timing. I can otherwise frame-perfect fireball spam. Is this GGPO choking on me or is it a ST engine thing?

It happens sometimes when I knock people down out of the air too.

I'm relatively new to the game so I'm not really sure what's going on there.

The game slows to 50% speed during fireball hitstun.

Shiki Dan
Oct 27, 2010

If ya can move ya toes ya back's fine


Shock Trooper posted:


Mars loses to every projectile charcter in FHD, but the Clown matchup is so retardedly bad. Wish I had a video of just how lame it is.

Close enough:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDqTFPIwJic

Zyklon B Zombie
Feb 13, 2005

Circling Overland

It's taken a few months, but finally got my homemade hit box assembled! Just have to put in the controller board and run the wires, but that should be the easy part. If I ever make another stick, I'm making it a thrown together plywood piece of crap though.

EAThief
Aug 28, 2006

I swear it's not what you think


^^^That is incredible.

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010

hella

Zyklon B Zombie posted:

It's taken a few months, but finally got my homemade hit box assembled! Just have to put in the controller board and run the wires, but that should be the easy part. If I ever make another stick, I'm making it a thrown together plywood piece of crap though.



Your next big project should be trying to rig that piano up to play fighting games.

Be the Beethoven of fighting games .

Popehoist
Feb 5, 2008

There you go rubens, all your fault! You went on the wrong side of the car!


Dizz posted:

Your next big project should be trying to rig that piano up to play fighting games.

Be the Beethoven of fighting games .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DatK0ObAMoA

Nickoten
Oct 16, 2005
Yojimbo


I was happy as soon as I saw a link in response to that post.

Edit: But I'd really like a video of him playing a game where I know what's going on.

Nickoten fucked around with this message at Oct 17, 2011 around 11:55

Lowclock
Oct 26, 2005


What's the tournament scene's stance on controllers like that which can easily do left+right at the same time?

kaujot
Feb 9, 2011

Everybody was privileged. There were only privileged people.


Wasn't the only game with this problem Marvel 3, and was subsequently patched? I also believe that the hardware itself now cancels out one of the inputs.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

cheesy anime pizza undresses you with pepperoni eyes

Gamest Mook posted:

The game slows to 50% speed during fireball hitstun.

Is there a gameplay reason for this?

HKR
Jan 13, 2006



kaujot posted:

Wasn't the only game with this problem Marvel 3, and was subsequently patched? I also believe that the hardware itself now cancels out one of the inputs.

The official cthulhu hitbox board cancels left+right input as neutral. However last I checked they haven't banned any controller that actually allows simultaneous left+right.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002



Brannock posted:

Is there a gameplay reason for this?

Not really, it's just supposed to look cool I guess. KOF2k2UM seems to do the same thing and it's even more annoying in that.

Shinku ABOOKEN
Oct 23, 2009

STOP IT

STOP ALL THIS
NONSENSE


Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

Not really, it's just supposed to look cool I guess. KOF2k2UM seems to do the same thing and it's even more annoying in that.

I'm not sure about KOF2k2UM, but in some KoFs you can cancel guard into a roll at the cost of meter. So in some games the delay is there to give a chance to react, since a fireball hit is usually one active frame only and you can't really time a guard roll cancel out of that.

Snicker-Snack
Jul 2, 2010


Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

I'm not sure about KOF2k2UM, but in some KoFs you can cancel guard into a roll at the cost of meter. So in some games the delay is there to give a chance to react, since a fireball hit is usually one active frame only and you can't really time a guard roll cancel out of that.

AB and CD guard cancel can be performed at any point of blockstun. But even if you had to time the guard cancel for fireballs the delay would serve no purpose, because it only happens during a hit.

Gamest Mook
Jun 22, 2011

by Ozmaugh


Brannock posted:

Is there a gameplay reason for this?

I doubt this was the intended purpose, but it thankfully causes a lot of Guile touch of death combos to be practically impossible due to the way inputs get dropped during the slowdown.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002



Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

I'm not sure about KOF2k2UM, but in some KoFs you can cancel guard into a roll at the cost of meter. So in some games the delay is there to give a chance to react, since a fireball hit is usually one active frame only and you can't really time a guard roll cancel out of that.

"Active Frame" describes an active attack, not hitstun or guardstun. The hitstun and guardstun on a fireball is significantly longer than a single frame. Even if it weren't a whole lot, there's also hit pause that gives you even longer to input the GC.

Also like Snicker-Snack said, it's only on hit. :I


It's just there to look cool I guess, but it ends up screwing with your input. It makes certain combos a lot harder than they should be because you basically have to wait for the slowdown to end before you start inputting the next move. In 2k2 that is, not sure how it works in SF2.

Shinku ABOOKEN
Oct 23, 2009

STOP IT

STOP ALL THIS
NONSENSE


Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

"Active Frame" describes an active attack, not hitstun or guardstun. The hitstun and guardstun on a fireball is significantly longer than a single frame. Even if it weren't a whole lot, there's also hit pause that gives you even longer to input the GC.

Also like Snicker-Snack said, it's only on hit. :I


It's just there to look cool I guess, but it ends up screwing with your input. It makes certain combos a lot harder than they should be because you basically have to wait for the slowdown to end before you start inputting the next move. In 2k2 that is, not sure how it works in SF2.

I actually meant the frames of the fireball dealing damage after collision (regular fireballs only deal damage for one frame IIRC), but I forgot that you guard cancel during hitstun and not necessarily while being hit

Personally, I want the hitstop and slowdown to stay. Mainly because they give attacks impact and paradoxically make the fight feel smooth.
People call MK's animation stiff when it really not different from any other fighting game because it doesn't have hitstop.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002



Well Hitstop is definitely a good thing all around. Slowdown I don't mind but it is a little annoying some times.

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Trykt
Jul 30, 2000

Still training..


http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/n6dsk36fgo

I know everyone's all excited about gems and cards and animes and poo poo right now but we're having a good old-fashioned ST tournament in #goonsgarden tonight at 10 Eastern! We're using GGPO so it's about as free as a thing can get these days. Join us to play or heckle or talk about how cool and awesome and inspired motherfucking Gems are!

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