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symbolic posted:I really want to like Enslaved, I really do. I listened to Vikingligr Veldi and loved it. Then I listened to the 2015 album and realized why they were on the same bill as Native loving Construct. It's so radically different that I can't get past that. Well, those two albums are like 21 years apart, and it was a long, slow process where they changed a little each album. I mean, maybe start at VV and go forward one album at a time? Also, I'll be honest, I have no loving idea who/what Native Construct even is, I'm just going to this december show because Enslaved, and BTBAM was just a bit of a bonus.
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Fenrir posted:Well, those two albums are like 21 years apart, and it was a long, slow process where they changed a little each album. I mean, maybe start at VV and go forward one album at a time? Also, Native Construct is a way proggier BTBAM, which is why I do not like them. I'm fine with BTBAM and even some Intronaut, but NC is too proggy for my tastes.
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# ? Nov 28, 2015 03:12 |
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Native Construct are BTBAM if they indulged all of their worst impulses and weren't heavy at all
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# ? Nov 28, 2015 03:16 |
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Henchman of Santa posted:Native Construct are BTBAM if they indulged all of their worst impulses and weren't heavy at all
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# ? Nov 28, 2015 03:17 |
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symbolic posted:Yeah, I did the same thing with In Flames. Loved Jester Race, immediately went into A Sense of Purpose and hated it. Guess I should go through each album. Also I made an Enslaved thread back in march when the last album came out. It's not great by any means but it gives an idea of how the band has changed over the years and such. Henchman of Santa posted:Native Construct are BTBAM if they indulged all of their worst impulses and weren't heavy at all Suddenly I've lost interest.
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# ? Nov 28, 2015 03:19 |
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Turk February posted:Slayer needs to gently caress off. They tour constantly and nobody wants to see them anymore. Why do you are that they tour? You don't have to see them. I always see them and will continue until they really can't play anymore. But for now, they're still able to do it live.
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# ? Nov 28, 2015 04:23 |
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So I checked out Skull Fist's newest album on a whim and it is really loving good classic heavy/power metal Great, energetic, and in-your-face.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:My AOTY is def Exercises in futility by Mgla. I realize that most people won't like that album, but I fall into a very slim margin of people for whom "Summoning with more hardcore influenced riffs" is extremely my poo poo. Second place is a tie between Black Fast -- Terms of Surrender and Tribulation - The Children of the Night, because I like dumb goofy things (my favorite metal bands right now are Dissection, Summoning and Warlord). hell yeah the new Black Fast LP was crushing. My AOTY is a tossup between the following: Krallice - Ygg huur Leviathan - Scar Sighted Intronaut - The Direction of Last Things Sigh - Graveward also honourable mentions to the new gently caress the Facts and Nechochwen albums. TheIllestVillain fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Nov 28, 2015 |
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The Clit Avoider posted:You have no idea what you're talking about. My metal fan friends are also terrible people with bad taste, so my opinion on what is and isn't well received is generally pretty poor. Also basically no one I know listens to black metal and people look at me strangely if they walk into my house when it's playing. Also when I say hardcore I really mean like 90's victory records stuff. At least I get a sort of "50% speed earth crisis" vibe from a lot of the breakdown/bridge sections on the album, especially in VI. But yeah I have a lot of trouble articulating my opinions about music and I do not pretend to be any kind of expert at all. A human heart posted:I don't really hear much similarity between Mgla and Summoning. I guess it's that they are both black metal but with a sort of focus on songs that sound like orcs could be marching to them, if that makes sense? I guess the best way I can put it is that it shares a lot of the same feel for me as Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame does, with a lot of songs that slowly build towards a really powerful sounding crescendo.
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# ? Nov 28, 2015 11:52 |
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I guess I just completely missed these guys a few years back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GQNUxSlBbA Just some Malaysian dudes totally into the Greek black metal scene and doing their best to pay tribute to Rotting Christ and Varathron.
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DEAR RICHARD posted:High Country was loving terrible Yeah I honestly have no loving idea what my AOTY would be but I know the Sword has really disappointed me lately. They had great cheesy epic doomy concept albums like Warp Riders and now I don't even know mang. symbolic posted:Yeah, I did the same thing with In Flames. Loved Jester Race, immediately went into A Sense of Purpose and hated it. Guess I should go through each album. Don't get me wrong the new In Flames from the last ten years or so blows goat balls but I have reappraised Reroute to Remain a bit since it was the first album on their road downward so there are still one or two good ones on there. I think Cloud Connected is pretty good and could almost fit in on Colony or Clayman.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:I guess it's that they are both black metal but with a sort of focus on songs that sound like orcs could be marching to them, if that makes sense? I guess the best way I can put it is that it shares a lot of the same feel for me as Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame does, with a lot of songs that slowly build towards a really powerful sounding crescendo. My album of the year is probably still the Macabre Omen, because a lot of the things I was looking forward to were either disappointing or have been pushed back to next year(Irkallian Oracle, Bolzer, Destroyer 666), but my EP of the year is either Sect Pig or Slaegt.
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# ? Nov 29, 2015 13:24 |
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So I saw Alestorm last night. Every metalhead needs to go see 'em once. The neckbeard ratio is a tad high, but it's a ridiculously good time.
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H13 posted:So I saw Alestorm last night. Every metalhead needs to go see 'em once. The neckbeard ratio is a tad high, but it's a ridiculously good time.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 01:37 |
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I can't believe how excited I am about the Jeb campaign!
H5N1 fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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H5N1 posted:making GBS threads on metal bands. making GBS threads on metal bands that tour. making GBS threads on new metal albums. But first and foremost, making GBS threads on the fans.
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DeusExMachinima posted:Yeah I honestly have no loving idea what my AOTY would be but I know the Sword has really disappointed me lately. They had great cheesy epic doomy concept albums like Warp Riders and now I don't even know mang. Yeah I just missed them coming by and I wasn't even sad.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 04:15 |
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H5N1 posted:making GBS threads on metal bands. making GBS threads on metal bands that tour. making GBS threads on new metal albums. But first and foremost, making GBS threads on the fans. Many metal bands and albums are bad, and it's fine to say so.
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MrBling posted:I guess I just completely missed these guys a few years back. This looks cool! A band being from Southeast Asia always catches my attention. The brutal death metal scene there is consistently really, really deranged. In fact that's just a general thing for third-world countries, they tend to produce sloppy, hosed-up metal which I absolutely love. (Colombia is great for this too, both their black and death scenes are nuts.) Like, what is this guitar tone? Holy crap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwfCHNYANpY Humiliation are pretty cool, too, tighter than most SE asian bands, but they shoehorn in really off-kilter Indonesian folk sections into Suffocation-esque BDM and it's so unfitting that it loops around to brilliant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7oFSxPuJuk There's also a couple really crazy, raw BDM bands from the Philippines, like Human Mastication and Down From The Wound. Don't want to post too many links, but if you're into that stuff you may like them.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 04:57 |
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A human heart posted:Many metal bands and albums are bad, and it's fine to say so.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 05:04 |
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Well it's not completely subjective really, because some people do have more informed opinions on the subject than others, not all opinions on art are equal. But that guy mostly seemed to be complaining that anyone would criticise a band that has fans and plays shows in anyway at all, which is a bizarre attitude to have on a music discussion forum, because of course you can criticise a band.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 05:13 |
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symbolic posted:And it's always completely subjective if they're good or bad. There are a few objective elements, like in some cases you can say that a band are repetitive songwriters (or, conversely, too disjointed) or that they overuse certain progressions or whatever. Like, you can genuinely say that some music lacks creativity and substance. I think this misses the forest for the trees, though, because when you get down to it liking things is sort of irrational - I couldn't tell you why I like certain albums but consider very similar ones to be not worth my time. Like, one of my favorite releases this year is basically Brodequin/Enmity worship and I'm not at all a Brodequin or Enmity fan. I think that, even if AHH expresses his opinions in a way that doesn't seem to recognize the validity of other viewpoints, what he's saying makes sense - there's a lot of metal out there, and if you dig into the genre you'll find a few gems and a lot of things that aren't worth keeping. But there's a lot of people out there who seem to be, like, super fans of one or two genres and will say they enjoy basically everything that comes out in that genre. I've especially noticed this with power metal fans, they seem to be reluctant to say that anything in the genre out-and-out sucks. I don't doubt that they do enjoy what they listen to, but if people have low standards and will praise a ton of low-effort stuff, it creates an environment that allows more mediocre, uninspired acts to thrive. So yeah, it's good both for your own exploration and for the scene as a whole to be discerning and to know why you like what you like (and, conversely, why you dislike what you dislike).
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A human heart posted:Well it's not completely subjective really, because some people do have more informed opinions on the subject than others, not all opinions on art are equal. Or, say, by a human heart. Hahah.
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Gamma Nerd posted:There are a few objective elements, like in some cases you can say that a band are repetitive songwriters (or, conversely, too disjointed) or that they overuse certain progressions or whatever. Like, you can genuinely say that some music lacks creativity and substance. I think this misses the forest for the trees, though, because when you get down to it liking things is sort of irrational - I couldn't tell you why I like certain albums but consider very similar ones to be not worth my time. Like, one of my favorite releases this year is basically Brodequin/Enmity worship and I'm not at all a Brodequin or Enmity fan.
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H13 posted:The neckbeard ratio is a tad high, but it's a ridiculously good time. The question isn't whether anyone forking over money for a metal show is a dork, it's what kind. The ratio is always 1 to 1.
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H5N1 posted:making GBS threads on metal bands. making GBS threads on metal bands that tour. making GBS threads on new metal albums. But first and foremost, making GBS threads on the fans. Yeah, its great having taste and not gobbling up poo poo.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 21:15 |
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I can't believe how excited I am about the Jeb campaign!
H5N1 fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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H5N1 posted:I went to a show the other night -- a real crap band -- and, man, you should have seen the dumb fans gobbling up that poo poo thinking they were enjoying themselves. I stood in the back slowly nodding to myself because the joke was on them! Then the music suddenly stopped and everyone in the hall turned around, looked at me, and clapped.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 00:53 |
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H5N1 posted:I went to a show the other night -- a real crap band -- and, man, you should have seen the dumb fans gobbling up that poo poo thinking they were enjoying themselves. I stood in the back slowly nodding to myself because the joke was on them! Then the music suddenly stopped and everyone in the hall turned around, looked at me, and clapped. You're really gonna die on that alestom hill huh
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 01:24 |
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H5N1 posted:I went to a show the other night -- a real crap band -- and, man, you should have seen the dumb fans gobbling up that poo poo thinking they were enjoying themselves. I stood in the back slowly nodding to myself because the joke was on them! Then the music suddenly stopped and everyone in the hall turned around, looked at me, and clapped.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 01:59 |
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Speaking of lovely music and lovely taste, while some might complain that the production on Danzig's covers album could charitably be described as a bedroom demo or absolute dogshit a five year old randomly twiddling knobs on an old Tascam 4 track could do a better job with, that's far from the truth. The reality is Danzig finally figured out how to capture the magic of what Danzig hears in Danzig's head when Danzig is singing in the shower.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 02:28 |
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I can't believe how excited I am about the Jeb campaign!
H5N1 fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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I'm sorry, I don't think you understand what it means to be a metal fan. It requires you to be in a constant state of agitation, ready to lash out with violent rage at the slightest provocation.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 03:32 |
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drat, then I've been doing it wrong for 27 years.
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Gamma Nerd posted:But there's a lot of people out there who seem to be, like, super fans of one or two genres and will say they enjoy basically everything that comes out in that genre. I've especially noticed this with power metal fans, they seem to be reluctant to say that anything in the genre out-and-out sucks.
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Nordick posted:Just wanted to say that I'm a power metal fan (after a fashion) and I'd be the first to say that there are a poo poo-ton of really sucky power metal bands. And very few things in metal music are as sad as a bad power metal band.
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Groke posted:drat, then I've been doing it wrong for 27 years. You wanna fight rear end in a top hat?? Let's do this!
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Hey, you know that old saying, when you fight rear end in a top hat, your hands smell like poo poo.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 08:04 |
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Check out the sick guitar tone on this thing https://backwoodsbutcher.bandcamp.com/album/nefarious-artifacts-cassette
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Nordick posted:Just wanted to say that I'm a power metal fan (after a fashion) and I'd be the first to say that there are a poo poo-ton of really sucky power metal bands. And very few things in metal music are as sad as a bad power metal band. It would probably help if there were more than 5 bands that realized that 2005 was 10 years ago and they can try writing something new now.
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